H1N1 vs COVID-19 in younger age groups

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4:55p, 7/9/20
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Mainly found the 24 and under demographic interesting, because the delta between H1N1 and COVID-19 is so great that there is no chance COVID-19, when effectively over, has larger totals.

H1N1 was FAR more lethal to everyone of school age, and there were ZERO policy interventions and no schools or universities shuttered.
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In reply to Keegan99 • 4:59p, 7/9/20
Did H1N1 spread as easily and with as many asymptomatic cases?

Hasn't it kind of been known for sometime that the issue with COVID isn't how lethal it is but how quickly and quietly it can spread?
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Yeah H1N1 was far more lethal to the younger population, but seemed less infectious (what was the r0 on it btw) and has built in herd immunity as well. Also don't recall it putting huge strains on hospitals world wide either.
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5:18p, 7/9/20
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H1N1 was widely infected in the US.

Estimated at 80 million cases
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5:21p, 7/9/20
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what happened to H1N1 ?

Did it burn out or did we reach herd immunity
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A friend of mine's 2 year old in CS had H1N1 in February and was very sick. An ER doc finally tested for it after several trips to the emergency room and a stay in the hospital. It makes me wonder how many kids still get it and are told it is just a virus since it took them so long to even test for it. It also makes me wonder if and when COVID-19 will not be considered in testing with sick patients.
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the difference being we didn't shut down any businesses or mask up or socially distance or cancel large gatherings or sports or funerals or weddings or school or pretty much anything else during H1N1
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In reply to JP_Losman • 7:53p, 7/9/20
Vaccine
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I have a neighbor that lost a 12 year old, healthy, athletic grandson to H1N1 at Christmas. I didn't even know it is still a thing. Very sad.
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10:52p, 7/9/20
H1N1 is still around. The flu vaccine still includes it, if I'm not mistaken, which helps keep the prevalence low.

Also, as others pointed out, while H1N1 was more deadly for school aged kids, it wasn't as infectious. And thus it didn't have the potential to over run the healthcare system like COVID does. Additionally, to determine how deadly it was to society overall, you'd have to look at case fatality rates in different age groups and look at the potential impact of an entire classroom spreading it to one another and then taking it home to 30 different households. Some with grandparents living there etc.

Just looking at absolute values when it comes to deaths,while important, doesn't paint the whole picture of the impact of a disease.
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My then infant child caught it (assume day care), had minor symptoms. I caught it and it put me in bed for a week. I didn't get a flu shot that year because the pediatrician was out and then forgot about it. Haven't since and won't forget again.

Same kiddo got RSV la bit later on in 2010 and it was way worse than the flu...doc said the vaccine helped keep symptoms down.
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In reply to Keegan99 • 9:47a, 7/10/20
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Keegan99 said:


Mainly found the 24 and under demographic interesting, because the delta between H1N1 and COVID-19 is so great that there is no chance COVID-19, when effectively over, has larger totals.

H1N1 was FAR more lethal to everyone of school age, and there were ZERO policy interventions and no schools or universities shuttered.
We screwed up our response to COVID is such a MAJOR way because, we the people, are a bunch of sheep who lean on the Media and our Government leaders as the bastion of truth.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

JB'91
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