Society's inaccurate view of COVID risk

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https://twitter.com/aginnt/status/1282715913939230720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1282715913939230720%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.airwarriors.com%2Fcommunity%2Fthreads%2Fcovid-19.47181%2Fpage-181

According to this, young people believe they have the highest risk of being infected, hospitalized, and dying of the virus, despite the fact that the exact opposite is true.
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Someone more savvy on imbedding tweets?
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Well, this is to be expected when everyone is getting their news off of Facebook and Twitter.

Not that we've had a real consistent message from politicians or the scientific community, but social media is driving all kinds of BS these days. I mean, look how many people ACTUALLY believe that you can order a cabinet off of Wayfair and be shipped a child sex slave.
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GAC06 said:

Someone more savvy on imbedding tweets?
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!
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If that is the case, why are younger people driving the recent surge? They surely are not acting like they think they are at the greatest risk when they go to bars, beaches, parties, and protests.
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the average risk of contracting HIV through sharing a needle one time with an HIV-positive drug user is 0.67 percent


I will not take that risk. I've always considered it 100%
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Lots of people are terrible at probability and analyzing risk, and that is not exclusive to just young folks...
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Player To Be Named Later said:

Well, this is to be expected when everyone is getting their news off of Facebook and Twitter.

Not that we've had a real consistent message from politicians or the scientific community, but social media is driving all kinds of BS these days. I mean, look how many people ACTUALLY believe that you can order a cabinet off of Wayfair and be shipped a child sex slave.
It's not just them it's the media in general. They keep harping on "COVID catastrophe in AZ, TX and FL" even though cases is not really a metric that should scare anyone. In fact if a bunch of people under 50 get it and recover, then all the better.

Some days it seems like 50% of people (i) have an anxiety disorder and (ii) just discovered they are going to die some day. Does anyone want to tell them what their risk of dying is on their daily commute?
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If more people would just get the hell off of social media and the internet, and go back to living their lives like us 80s/90s kids did, there'd be a LOT less "anxiety" disorders.
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Player To Be Named Later said:

If more people would just get the hell off of social media and the internet, and go back to living their lives like us 80s/90s kids did, there'd be a LOT less "anxiety" disorders.
You mean, like avoiding the news on Covid altogether so we could just live our lives like December 2019.

100% convinced that 99% of Americans would be happier this way. Yeah, we'd lose people in a 329 million person country, and that's tragic. No doubt. But we'd still come out with a population of 350+ million and an increasing age of death from 78.whatever to 79 or 80.whatever over the next 10 years.
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A lot depends on how the question was asked but young people by and large are the ones not taking precautions so, in that sense, they are more likely contract it and be hospitalized (since you won't be hospitalized for it if you don't catch it)
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It's not just them it's the media in general. They keep harping on "COVID catastrophe in AZ, TX and FL" even though cases is not really a metric that should scare anyone. In fact if a bunch of people under 50 get it and recover, then all the better

They focus on the case count because we see the cases go up a few weeks before the death rate goes up. The death rate has started to spike in AZ, TX and FL and it will most likely go a lot higher in the coming weeks.

And death isn't the only risk. A lot of people end up with lung scarring. There is permanent neurological damage in some survivors. It takes a lot of people many weeks to several months to fully recover which can be very damaging to a career or one's finances.
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As a completely unexpected "consequence" of all of this, my life will be a lot less stress free. Have re-discovered true priorities and ditched a lot of really trivial ones.

One result is I bet I watch about 1 hour or so of television in a week these days. Rest of the time there is just a lot better things to be doing. And none of that involves watching news.
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Sisyphus said:

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It's not just them it's the media in general. They keep harping on "COVID catastrophe in AZ, TX and FL" even though cases is not really a metric that should scare anyone. In fact if a bunch of people under 50 get it and recover, then all the better

They focus on the case count because we see the cases go up a few weeks before the death rate goes up. The death rate has started to spike in AZ, TX and FL and it will most likely go a lot higher in the coming weeks.

And death isn't the only risk. A lot of people end up with lung scarring. There is permanent neurological damage in some survivors. It takes a lot of people many weeks to several months to fully recover which can be very damaging to a career or one's finances.
There were 37,000 or so deaths in NYC, and if you assume a 0.25% death rate, then that means that there were something like 4.7 million infections in NYC alone. Per capita, what we're seeing in Texas right now is like 5% of that. Of course, the deaths will go a bit higher and we're seeing that. But this is mostly fear porn, just like your "lung scarring" nonsense. It's only been a few months, there's no possible way to know the long term effects yet.

What's really damaging to the nation's finances are lockdowns. Gavin Newsome just locked down CA again. If you look at the CA data, it's not as bad as Texas right now on a per capita basis. It's just insane policy.
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The current crop of "young people" aren't very bright.
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Oddly enough the chart looks like the inverse of Fox News demographics.
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your "lung scarring" nonsense. It's only been a few months, there's no possible way to know the long term effects yet.

Johns Hopkins disagrees:

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/what-coronavirus-does-to-the-lungs
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"Once the pandemic is over, there will be a group of patients with new health needs: the survivors. Doctors, respiratory therapists and other health care providers will need to help these patients recover their lung function as much as possible."


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What's really damaging to the nation's finances are lockdowns.

Most people on this board seem to think that it's the lockdown that is causing the economic pain but the places that have been most resistant to lockdown (GA, FL, AZ, Sweden) don't have economies that did better than their peers that have been more aggressive combating the spread.
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Jet Black said:

The current crop of "young people" aren't very bright.

Said every old person ever.
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Sisyphus said:

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It's not just them it's the media in general. They keep harping on "COVID catastrophe in AZ, TX and FL" even though cases is not really a metric that should scare anyone. In fact if a bunch of people under 50 get it and recover, then all the better

They focus on the case count because we see the cases go up a few weeks before the death rate goes up. The death rate has started to spike in AZ, TX and FL and it will most likely go a lot higher in the coming weeks.

And death isn't the only risk. A lot of people end up with lung scarring. There is permanent neurological damage in some survivors. It takes a lot of people many weeks to several months to fully recover which can be very damaging to a career or one's finances.


I think there is a false sense of herd immunity. Antibodies seem to be limited with this disease. Duration of antibodies is limited as some folks have contracted it more than once.
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Federale01 said:

If that is the case, why are younger people driving the recent surge? They surely are not acting like they think they are at the greatest risk when they go to bars, beaches, parties, and protests.


The answer to why they believe these numbers is that young people are generally morons.

The answer to why they believe these numbers, yet still go out and party, is that young people are generally morons.
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