"Cure" Worse than the Disease? CDC Study

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The linked CDC study came out this week indicates that the mental health problems in our youth 18-24 years old are off-the-charts bad since previous years' studies. Those experiencing one or more of depression, anxiety, suicidality, or increased substance use to cope with the pandemic are at 74.9% as of the end of June. 25.5% seriously considered suicide in the last 30 days.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6932a1.htm

According to a similar report from SAMHSA in 2018, serious thoughts of suicide in this age group were 11.0%.

https://www.samhsa.gov/data/report/2018-nsduh-annual-national-report

Comparing the two reports (that aren't exactly the same), that's a 232% increase in serious thoughts of suicide amongst this age group over two years.

Whatever our society has changed in the last two years needs to be reversed. These mental health problems won't be easy to fix.



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We have to get kids back to regular school and college ASAP.

99.99943% of the 15-24 year olds recover from covid. WTH are we doing?

Under 15 recovery is even higher.
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the first step is to stop equating a covid positive test to being sick.

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DadHammer said:

We have to get kids back to regular school and college ASAP.

99.99943% of the 15-24 year olds recover from covid. WTH are we doing?

Under 15 recovery is even higher.
Agree.
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As the parent of a college teenager I can fully attest to this study. It was amazing the transformation over 1 month from an outgoing happy student to an introverted unhappy teenager. She went to work at a camp for a month and the same thing happened came back happy and outgoing but as the weeks grew without being around people she slowly became introverted and unhappy.

As the prospect of going back to school and being with peers came closer mood improved and now back to normal.

I just think the lack of face to face time with peers is very hard for teens.
Easy come, Easy go
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Excess deaths for 25 to 44 year olds is 18k, but only 8k can be attributed to covid-19.

That means for this age group, more people are dying from the cure vs. the disease.

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It is likely that these are deaths related to suicide, despair, alcohol and drug abuse, and violence; collateral effects of various public policy mitigation measures. One can reasonably conclude that the lock-downs and stay at home orders may have had significant negative effects. This is a cursory analysis and will be refined as data becomes more complete.


https://covidplanningtools.com/whats-driving-excess-deaths-for-25-to-44-year-olds/
Mike Shaw - Class of '03
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Aggie95 said:

the first step is to stop equating a covid positive test to being sick.


I have argued this like crazy for the last 5 months. I am 100% confident that I have had multiple viruses in my body yearly throughout my life. The difference is that I'm only sick about 4 times a year - if that.

Just because you have a virus doesn't mean that your body isn't fighting that virus off.
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mccjames said:

As the parent of a college teenager I can fully attest to this study. It was amazing the transformation over 1 month from an outgoing happy student to an introverted unhappy teenager. She went to work at a camp for a month and the same thing happened came back happy and outgoing but as the weeks grew without being around people she slowly became introverted and unhappy.

As the prospect of going back to school and being with peers came closer mood improved and now back to normal.

I just think the lack of face to face time with peers is very hard for teens.
i am a near 35 year old male and this rings all to loud. I need social interaction. It makes me feel alive.
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This is something that all parents like myself need to keep a close eye on. My daughter has not been like herself when everything shut down. She did go back to school on Monday and her mood has improved, but she definitely missed her friends.

We have also had a student from India stay with us for a couple weeks. He is definitely dealing with a lot of anxiety because he misses his family. They were supposed to come visit this summer. With school starting, I have noticed him getting a little better because his friends are back in town. That is helping quite a bit since I can't spend that time with him.

Crazy how much we do need each other. We cant go through life talking on a screen. We need human interaction.
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Greenlander said:



Whatever our society has changed in the last two years needs to be reversed. These mental health problems won't be easy to fix.




Not only COVID shutdown, but also a society that has grown up on social media. They are brainwashed and stare at a screen before COVID. Now with the shutdown, their minds are warped to believe whatever social media wants to train their minds into. Throw in zero social interaction for a growing brain and the frontal cortex just can't process and filter the bull**** out!

Get back to school, quit living in fear and get kids off phones!
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