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kag00 said:
If you have to go to those lengths, just don't go. Just Zoom in and fight with family that way because they didn't quarantine as hard as you did.
jopatura said:
How are you getting there? Airports have been okay so far, but I'm not sure I'd trust holiday travel especially since a lot of colleges are sending everyone home at Thanksgiving.
If you're driving, stay out of public bathrooms.
As for pre-visit prep, I would definitely get a PCR test a day or two before you leave and quarantine completely between test and departure. I wouldn't eat inside at a restaurant week of but I would continue to grocery shop, run errands. I don't think two tests are necessary unless you start feeling bad in the days before leaving. Just be mindful of your surroundings and wash your hands often.
SoupNazi2001 said:Capitol Ag said:
Live life. I honestly feel like your being too strict. If you feel better going to that trouble, I completely understand. Sounds about textbook. I was to hang out with my parents in their 80s this weekend but I have a head cold I've "fought" this week so decided to skip. But to me, just monitor your health the week of. Unless they have major comorbidities, it's almost impossible to quarantine for 10 days unless you're single, work from home and/or don't have kiddos.
Edit to say I take Remicade every 10 weeks so one could define me as having a compromised immune system.
This. I can't believe people are still going through these lengths after so many months. We see our parents often. Quarantining with work and kids in school isn't possible and our parents don't want them or us isolating anymore.
I genuinely wish my parents would have this sort of mindset but unfortunately they do not.ReloadAg said:
We're driving to visit my wife's 92 year old grandmother in Arkansas and she doesn't GAF about the virus and neither do we. We'll be living every day normally as we've done since March. She's said she's lived through real crises in her life and this isn't one of them.
ReloadAg said:
We're driving to visit my wife's 92 year old grandmother in Arkansas and she doesn't GAF about the virus and neither do we. We'll be living every day normally as we've done since March. She's said she's lived through real crises in her life and this isn't one of them.
I love this. How come the elderly value family more than surviving? How come the elderly were the first to return to church? The elderly just have this thing called priorities and their survival isn't based on substance but on will.Proposition Joe said:
I applaud people - including the older generation - deciding on their own risk tolerances.
But those are individual choices not guidance for all - we shouldn't be looking at someone who has mastered a Jitterbug phone and assume they also are wise ole sages on epidemiology.
I just don't understand why people can't see that it's not just about individual life and death. If this were something where fatality happened instantly, it'd be close to that (but would still occupy morgue resources). Instead this is quite the opposite: survival rates are pretty dang good, but it frequently involves weeks of hospitalization to get there. That's the impact on society. It doesn't really matter to society at large if your grandma dies. It does matter if your grandma spends a month in the hospital, occupying an ICU bed and requiring highly dedicated care from hospital staff that would normally be available for car/workplace accidents, heart attacks, etc.Proposition Joe said:
I applaud people - including the older generation - deciding on their own risk tolerances.
But those are individual choices not guidance for all - we shouldn't be looking at someone who has mastered a Jitterbug phone and assume they also are wise ole sages on epidemiology.
coolerguy12 said:ReloadAg said:
We're driving to visit my wife's 92 year old grandmother in Arkansas and she doesn't GAF about the virus and neither do we. We'll be living every day normally as we've done since March. She's said she's lived through real crises in her life and this isn't one of them.
Went to wedding in Amarillo last weekend. Bride had Covid about two weeks before. 89 year old grandma was still there having a great time. No mask.
texagbeliever said:I love this. How come the elderly value family more than surviving? How come the elderly were the first to return to church? The elderly just have this thing called priorities and their survival isn't based on substance but on will.Proposition Joe said:
I applaud people - including the older generation - deciding on their own risk tolerances.
But those are individual choices not guidance for all - we shouldn't be looking at someone who has mastered a Jitterbug phone and assume they also are wise ole sages on epidemiology.
murphyag said:coolerguy12 said:ReloadAg said:
We're driving to visit my wife's 92 year old grandmother in Arkansas and she doesn't GAF about the virus and neither do we. We'll be living every day normally as we've done since March. She's said she's lived through real crises in her life and this isn't one of them.
Went to wedding in Amarillo last weekend. Bride had Covid about two weeks before. 89 year old grandma was still there having a great time. No mask.
One thing I've noticed is that old folks in their 90s or close to that age don't seem as worried because realistically they could kick the bucket at any time due to their advanced age. Big difference between a 65 year old and 90 year old.
First of all your original post was a slight at the intellectual capabilities of the elderly. Mocking their ability to only get the most basic cell phone to work. You use this as a basis to deem them unfit to make decisions that they think are best for them. I'm just telling you, that maybe, just maybe, elderly people are wise enough to value things better than you!Proposition Joe said:texagbeliever said:I love this. How come the elderly value family more than surviving? How come the elderly were the first to return to church? The elderly just have this thing called priorities and their survival isn't based on substance but on will.Proposition Joe said:
I applaud people - including the older generation - deciding on their own risk tolerances.
But those are individual choices not guidance for all - we shouldn't be looking at someone who has mastered a Jitterbug phone and assume they also are wise ole sages on epidemiology.
You know it doesn't have to be either "family" or "surviving", right?
There's thousands of elderly out there that are still communicating and seeing their family, just taking certain precautions while doing so -- with the mindset that if they make these adjustments for a year that they can survive and have more time with their family.
There's very few people around here promoting a "lock the elderly up and we'll see them next year if they survive"... People are still seeing their elderly family, but that doesn't necessarily require a "eff social distancing and this mask, meemaw ain't changin' for no virus!"
texagbeliever said:First of all your original post was a slight at the intellectual capabilities of the elderly. Mocking their ability to only get the most basic cell phone to work. You use this as a basis to deem them unfit to make decisions that they think are best for them. I'm just telling you, that maybe, just maybe, elderly people are wise enough to value things better than you!Proposition Joe said:texagbeliever said:I love this. How come the elderly value family more than surviving? How come the elderly were the first to return to church? The elderly just have this thing called priorities and their survival isn't based on substance but on will.Proposition Joe said:
I applaud people - including the older generation - deciding on their own risk tolerances.
But those are individual choices not guidance for all - we shouldn't be looking at someone who has mastered a Jitterbug phone and assume they also are wise ole sages on epidemiology.
You know it doesn't have to be either "family" or "surviving", right?
There's thousands of elderly out there that are still communicating and seeing their family, just taking certain precautions while doing so -- with the mindset that if they make these adjustments for a year that they can survive and have more time with their family.
There's very few people around here promoting a "lock the elderly up and we'll see them next year if they survive"... People are still seeing their elderly family, but that doesn't necessarily require a "eff social distancing and this mask, meemaw ain't changin' for no virus!"