Apologies if it's been asked, and this is assuming you believe masks work (at any level). Not being facetious here, legitimately curious.

Once you've had the vaccine, any need to continue to wear a mask?

Once you've had COVID, any need to continue to wear a mask?

Aggie95 said:

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depends on what science you believe...

the belief is that even once vaccinated, you might not get sick from COVID but you can still "catch" it and spread it to others that are not vaccinated or immune.

probably the same with immunity post-covid

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If you're vaccinated and immune to the virus, how can you "catch" it and spread it?

That's the one thing about this virus that makes little to no sense and so many people seem to be eating it up.

What other viruses do you know of that you can be immune to/have the immunities for and still spread?
"Most likely none."

What's the point of the vaccine if you still "need" to wear a mask post-vaccination?

I think as the vaccine rolls out, masks will go away. I certainly won't wear one after getting the vaccine.

Unfortunately there are plenty of people (including on here) who will swear they had Covid because they got some sniffles last January. So I seriously doubt any place that has mask requirements right now would switch to a "don't worry about it if you already had Covid" policy.

All of this sucks, but light is at the end of the tunnel.

inch05 said:

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masks also help prevent, generally, other harmful things from entering your body...so colds/flus, etc...too.

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Did you worry about the cold/flu or other "harmful things" to the point where you felt you needed to wear a mask everywhere you went pre-covid? Probably not.

Not going to give up my civil liberties in the long term so that people can feel safer from the cold and flu. We didn't wear masks for those viruses/illnesses pre-covid and we shouldn't wear them post-covid either.

Wouldn't it be better to be exposed to things, like colds? Keep our immune systems going? I thought that antibacterial soaps and sanitizers were bad if used all the time because you need some exposure. I believe the same thing should be true about viruses.

inch05 said:

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masks also help prevent, generally, other harmful things from entering your body...so colds/flus, etc...too.

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This sounds like a push for masks forever. No thanks. Masks suck something awful. Not worth it, and hardly even work for covid unless done properly and the right type.

cjeffery20 said:

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Aggie95 said:

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cjeffery20 said:

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Aggie95 said:

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depends on what science you believe...

the belief is that even once vaccinated, you might not get sick from COVID but you can still "catch" it and spread it to others that are not vaccinated or immune.

probably the same with immunity post-covid

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If you're vaccinated and immune to the virus, how can you "catch" it and spread it?

That's the one thing about this virus that makes little to no sense and so many people seem to be eating it up.

What other viruses do you know of that you can be immune to/have the immunities for and still spread?
"Most likely none."

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Strep...a lot of people carry it but never have symptoms.

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Strep is a bacterial infection. As far as I know and from the little research I've done, those who have strep with no symptoms are less likely to spread the infection.

My question was do you know of any "viruses" that you can be immune to or receive immunities for (through vaccination) but still "carry" and spread to others?

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There are people that are chronic shedders of mono.

But the thing here is that, the way the vaccine studies were done, they didn't test for if you got infected. They tested for of you got symptoms and then you were tested for infection. There is no proof that they prevent you from catching it altogether, they just have demonstrated that if you got it, you did not get a symptomatic infection, and if you did, it was not severe. That was the endpoint the study was trying to evaluate.

I plan on wearing a mask after I get the vaccine because I feel like I need to set an example. I also don't want to have to pull out a vaccine card anytime I go to some store with a mask mandate.

However, once we've reached large scale vaccination levels, and the threat is reasonably low, and local mask mandates start going away, I will ditch the mask.

As much of a proponent of masks as I am, if mandates don't go away at the appropriate time I will certainly push for them to go away.

AggieSarah01 said:

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Wouldn't it be better to be exposed to things, like colds? Keep our immune systems going? I thought that antibacterial soaps and sanitizers were bad if used all the time because you need some exposure. I believe the same thing should be true about viruses.

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Exhibit A: children

Regularly exposed to coronaviruses, and seem largely resistant to covid-19.

Masks are not the solution.

Biden says he will make us wear masks for 100 days because masks are magic. Countries, states, counties, and cities with masks mandates have eradicated Covid. Their hospitals are empty. Those countries, states, counties and cities without mandates have been wiped out.

Thank you for your absurdity and hyperbole. It adds so much to this discussion.

CDub06 said:

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Thank you for your absurdity and hyperbole. It adds so much to this discussion.

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If you have data showing a correlation between between deaths per 100,000 and mask mandates, please feel free to add value to the discussion.

https://rationalground.com/mask-charts/

bigtruckguy3500 said:

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cjeffery20 said:

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Aggie95 said:

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cjeffery20 said:

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Aggie95 said:

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depends on what science you believe...

the belief is that even once vaccinated, you might not get sick from COVID but you can still "catch" it and spread it to others that are not vaccinated or immune.

probably the same with immunity post-covid

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If you're vaccinated and immune to the virus, how can you "catch" it and spread it?

That's the one thing about this virus that makes little to no sense and so many people seem to be eating it up.

What other viruses do you know of that you can be immune to/have the immunities for and still spread?
"Most likely none."

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Strep...a lot of people carry it but never have symptoms.

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Strep is a bacterial infection. As far as I know and from the little research I've done, those who have strep with no symptoms are less likely to spread the infection.

My question was do you know of any "viruses" that you can be immune to or receive immunities for (through vaccination) but still "carry" and spread to others?

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There are people that are chronic shedders of mono.

But the thing here is that, the way the vaccine studies were done, they didn't test for if you got infected. They tested for of you got symptoms and then you were tested for infection. There is no proof that they prevent you from catching it altogether, they just have demonstrated that if you got it, you did not get a symptomatic infection, and if you did, it was not severe. That was the endpoint the study was trying to evaluate.

I plan on wearing a mask after I get the vaccine because I feel like I need to set an example. I also don't want to have to pull out a vaccine card anytime I go to some store with a mask mandate.

However, once we've reached large scale vaccination levels, and the threat is reasonably low, and local mask mandates start going away, I will ditch the mask.

As much of a proponent of masks as I am, if mandates don't go away at the appropriate time I will certainly push for them to go away.

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This has to be sarcasm, correct?

Also, what is the appropriate time? When Dear Leader says so? Or when cases drop to levels that much of the country already is at (and has been), yet people are chastised about not wearing a mask?

No sarcasm. I will probably get the vaccine before majority of the people I'm around, and I still want everyone I'm around to continue wearing a mask so they don't spread to each other. If you don't hold any leadership positions I can see how not setting an example might not matter to you, but I've been extremely diligent in my mask wear to ensure everyone around me knows I think they're important and they should wear it.

Appropriate time is when the science supports it. Once there's adequate immunity (via vaccination or natural infection) to prevent rampant spread and once hospitalization levels drop to a very manageable level would be two big things in my mind. Add in a little bit of a buffer so we maintain momentum in the right direction and don't rebound (maybe 2 months or so).

Not sure I'm reading your last question correctly. But if someone were to travel from a high risk area to a low risk area, I would want them wearing a mask to prevent that low risk area from exploding. As such I believe until the country as a whole gets things under control, we need to be mindful of how our actions will affect others wherever we go. Another reason why I'll continue to wear a mask. Not everyone that sees me, knows me, and knows that I've already gotten a vaccine.

cone said:

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it would be polite to wear masks during flu season

something small we can do to save lives

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cone said:

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it would be polite to wear masks during flu season

something small we can do to save lives

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Why not always? There are always potential illnesses we might spread. Why not always social distance and shut down sporting events to show how much we care?

cone said:

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it would be polite to wear masks during flu season

something small we can do to save lives

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Please be a troll

cone said:

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it would be polite to wear masks during flu season

something small we can do to save lives

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That's funny...

cone said:

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it would be polite to wear masks during flu season

something small we can do to save lives

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Lol. No.