Vaccine Question for Any Doctor

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aphi1983
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I tested positive for Covid on 12/20/20. I'm fine and healed from my time with the virus. My family doctor told me that I need to wait 90 days to get the vaccine. Has anyone heard this before?
Aries
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Not needed. Pfizer recommends it but it is not mandatory. Moderna has no such recommendation.

The side effects of the vaccine do seem to be more intense if you have had COVID recently.
ramblin_ag02
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We're vaccinating group 1a regardless of recent infection. We can't guarantee we'll have vaccines handy when their 90 days is up. If you're high risk for complications, then I'd go ahead with vaccination now.

However, the rate of reinfection is somewhat low overall especially for 90 days but it's even low up to 9 months out. So if you need to wait then you'll probably be fine. If you're low risk for complications, then I wouldn't sweat it now. Getting a vaccine should get easier as time goes on
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Infection_Ag11
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Pfizer recommends you get it, Moderna doesn't address the issue, and side effects will likely be worse after your first dose if you've already had COVID. As ramblin posted above, if you're a high risk immunocompromised patient who is less likely to mount a robust antibody response to your initial infection it might be worth your while. That being said short term reinfection rates are incredibly low, so low in fact that they really shouldn't factor into the decision making for 99% of patients.
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88planoAg
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Now that the docs have answered....I tested positive 12/24 and had minimal - mild symptoms. I'm 55 and overweight. Before I get the vaccine I will get an antibody test. I see no reason (as a lay person) to get a vaccine if my body is already producing antibodies.
BigOil
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Sorry if dumb question but why get the shot if you already had it and the natural antibodies?
Capitol Ag
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BigOil said:

Sorry if dumb question but why get the shot if you already had it and the natural antibodies?
Not a doctor. But have looked into this question.
B/c it's like a booster. While having had the virus does tend to result in antibodies, the questions are how long they last, if there are enough to keep you from being reinfected and if you have other things that might complicate things like being immunocompromised. In essence, they are encouraging all who have had the virus to still get the vaccine. I have seen it described as an extra booster.
2PacShakur
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BigOil said:

Sorry if dumb question but why get the shot if you already had it and the natural antibodies?
It's so everyone has at least one standard (or known) immune response towards the coronavirus. Using Trump's experience as an example, someone who may have had several treatments to help his immune system fight it at first infection may have had a weaker response by his immune system as it had help.
GaryClare
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Capitol Ag
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GaryClare said:

Capitol Ag said:

BigOil said:

Sorry if dumb question but why get the shot if you already had it and the natural antibodies?
Not a doctor. But have looked into this question.
B/c it's like a booster. While having had the virus does tend to result in antibodies, the questions are how long they last, if there are enough to keep you from being reinfected and if you have other things that might complicate things like being immunocompromised. In essence, they are encouraging all who have had the virus to still get the vaccine. I have seen it described as an extra booster.
Antibodies never last. The ability to produce antibodies is programmed into your immune system memory B cells. Now with just about every other virus the ability to produce antibodies lasts for decades and most likely your entire life. The ability for the body to produce swine flu antibodies have lasted 50 years. But apparently this virus is different so your immunity from a vaccine or actually having the disease you can get sick again in 9 months - sarcasm intended.

Now if there is a mutation in the virus that does not correlate to the programming developed by the vaccine or the virus itself, the process starts again and you will need to contract the new variation or get an adjusted vaccine to have immunity from that specific virus strain. Cold and flu virus change and mutate all the time. Corona "cold" viruses are so varied and mutate so much a vaccine cannot be effectively produced.

The only reason an mRNA vaccine might be effective after actually having the disease, or having a vaccine with the dead or weakened virus, is that your body has learned to attack the specific virus. The mRNA vaccines that attack the protein spike have a different strategy - they don't kill the virus they just "eat it's arms and legs" and leave the rest of the virus to die on its own. So IF parts of the virus mutates and your body has to learned how to combat the old strain BUT the protein spike stays the same in the new strain, it is possible that mRNA protein spike vaccines can compliment the response a person developed from the original strain exposure.

Now, once you've had the disease you just might contract the disease again. But your body will just fight it and you might never know you "got" it again. For example, how many times have you been exposed to smallpox, measles, mumps, rubella, etc.? Who knows - your body has the program and takes care of it. If this is not some unorthodox virus and it's like every other corona virus you will be fine with this strain once you have recovered from it or received a vaccine.

This is all Biology 101. Remove the politics behind the COVID 19 name and just learn about the immune system and it will help in figuring it all out.


Very interesting. Thank you!
Aries
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CDC/Health Department do NOT recommend this.
Aries
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Plus no one knows how long the antibodies will last. They are estimating 3 months but no one knows for sure. I have some people still testing positive for them & they had COVID in June. Others testing negative for them & they've had COVID more recently than June.

But really the goal is to vaccinate everyone as fast as possible.
88planoAg
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Ok. I just tested positive for antibodies so I feel I'm ok for now. I'll let others go first.
Rock1982
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Aries said:

CDC/Health Department do NOT recommend this.
Please provide link / reference. Danke.
GaryClare
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