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When will the J&J vaccine be available in Texas?
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Last: 4 yr ago by ag2dabone
I've heard likely next week, if it's sent here. It will be noted in the weekly distribution tallies.
Curious how 1A and 1Bers will react to this one since the effectiveness appears to be lower (although appears to fare well in preventing severe disease). I'm thinking they may need to open past those groups once this one is rolling out in large quantities. It will help get us there faster either way, but I do wonder how much a "thanks but no thanks, I'll wait for the other 2" from 1A/1B may further speed that along. On the flipside, those 1Ab who haven't signed up because they are worried about mRNA may jump in and offset that
I've met quite a few people that are willing to get the J&J vaccine, but not Pfizer or Moderna. Anyone know why?
Also, to OP, not sure. Pfizer was distributed within a week to some places after approval, and pretty much everywhere within 2 weeks. Considering J&J is easier to ship and store, I suspect it'll be distributed slightly faster if J&J logistics and shipping is as good as it was for the other two.
I also think this is more likely to show up at local doctors offices, and not just large hospitals or pharmacies.
Also, to OP, not sure. Pfizer was distributed within a week to some places after approval, and pretty much everywhere within 2 weeks. Considering J&J is easier to ship and store, I suspect it'll be distributed slightly faster if J&J logistics and shipping is as good as it was for the other two.
I also think this is more likely to show up at local doctors offices, and not just large hospitals or pharmacies.
We are getting 69,000 doses in Virginia next week.
The mRNA aspect has some skittish about the first 2. This one not being mRNA and instead a bit of a more familiar delivery method will have some preferring it
I prefer J&J since it is one shot, old technology, fewer side effects and appears to be just as effective at preventing severe illness and death.
It may be less effective at preventing COVID infection overall but I'm not in a high risk group so I'm not as worried about getting it and would rather go with the single shot.
It may be less effective at preventing COVID infection overall but I'm not in a high risk group so I'm not as worried about getting it and would rather go with the single shot.
DannyDuberstein said:
The mRNA aspect has some skittish about the first 2. This one not being mRNA and instead a bit of a more familiar delivery method will have some preferring it
Gumby said:
I prefer J&J since it is one shot, old technology, fewer side effects and appears to be just as effective at preventing severe illness and death.
It may be less effective at preventing COVID infection overall but I'm not in a high risk group so I'm not as worried about getting it and would rather go with the single shot.
I don't think we've had a viral vector vaccine before, though I could be wrong. The technology has been around longer though, we've used it to alter the DNA of bacteria in labs, I believe.
Pretty sure it's also the premise behind the virus from I Am Legend.
Yeah, that's why I went with "a bit of a more familiar" as far as introducing virus in some way to trigger the immune response relative to how the mRNA approach works. The "exactly how" behind that is certainly newer though. May be more perception vs reality, but regardless, it is playing a role in the preference of some folks
I really don't know enough about all the vaccine info but I am 47 in a low risk group and for some reason I keep preferring to try to wait and take this one, not just because it's only one shot although that helps my decision, but I trust the Johnson & Johnson name more? And before anyone jumps at the trust comment I just mean I trust that since it's a bit later than the other vaccines it may be a more efficient vaccine to take which could be true since it's only one shot and not two. Should I go ahead and get the Pfizer or Moderna if I have a chance or just wait for this one?
I think people will just end up getting what is available to them at the time.
There are several things that are great about the situation that we are in:
1. The J & J vaccine is also a great vaccine and puts more vaccine in the market, which means more vaccinated people.
2. We are now a year into this and are currently talking about which vaccine we want to take; think about that for a second. Last year at this time we didn't know a whole lot about Covid, and now we have options of what vaccine we will get.
There are several things that are great about the situation that we are in:
1. The J & J vaccine is also a great vaccine and puts more vaccine in the market, which means more vaccinated people.
2. We are now a year into this and are currently talking about which vaccine we want to take; think about that for a second. Last year at this time we didn't know a whole lot about Covid, and now we have options of what vaccine we will get.
bigtruckguy3500 said:
I've met quite a few people that are willing to get the J&J vaccine, but not Pfizer or Moderna. Anyone know why?.
Because the Facebook fearmongers haven't started spreading made up stories about it altering your dna yet...
Does what people think about the vaccine matter if they are willing to get a vaccine?
Even if they are wrong they are willing to get a vaccine.
Seems like a dumb fight to pick.
Even if they are wrong they are willing to get a vaccine.
Seems like a dumb fight to pick.
KlinkerAg11 said:
Does what people think about the vaccine matter if they are willing to get a vaccine?
Even if they are wrong they are willing to get a vaccine.
Seems like a dumb fight to pick.
There are people (and I know a fair number of them) that are high risk who are refusing to get the mRNA vaccines today and are holding out for another technology
Does making fun of these people help?
I agree with you, I think it's silly and dangerous but making fun of people typically makes them double down.
I agree with you, I think it's silly and dangerous but making fun of people typically makes them double down.
No one is making fun of them. Pointing out that the "j&j good/mRNA bad" and "qanon" demographics are the same isn't making fun of them. It is showing why it isn't worth dealing with them and all you can do is hope they get whatever vaccine they are comfortable getting.
There is nothing funny about them.
There is nothing funny about them.
But then the signature of the OP should give you an idea of how important facts/reality are to the people that are fine with the J&J vaccine vs the mRNA vaccines.
That's your quote making fun of the OP.
I know plenty of people who aren't comfortable with the "new" vaccine vs the "traditional" one even though it's not true.
None of these people are Q types.
That's your quote making fun of the OP.
I know plenty of people who aren't comfortable with the "new" vaccine vs the "traditional" one even though it's not true.
None of these people are Q types.
That isn't making fun of him. The op has an "interesting" posting history that reflects the mindset /beliefs of the people I know that are holding out for a non-mRNA vaccine.
Didn't know that, I get what you mean about misinformation on it.
I just am big on making sure we don't push people who are willing to take a vaccine to the "dark side" if you will.
People are funny, as i'm sure you know.
I just am big on making sure we don't push people who are willing to take a vaccine to the "dark side" if you will.
People are funny, as i'm sure you know.
For what it's worth, I've seen a lot of scientists pushing back on the notion that the J&J vaccine is less effective than the Pfizer/Moderna vaccines.
There is a lower efficacy rate quoted, which leads people to believe that the efficacy is lower (70% < 95%), however, what scientists are pointing out is that those comparisons are apples and oranges. J&J was tested in multiple countries where variants were circulating which are known to reduce the effectiveness of vaccines, whereas the mRNA counterparts were not.
Yet, the J&J vaccine trials were just as effective in preventing severe illness and disease. All with one shot!
If you have the chance to get J&J, I wouldn't worry that you're getting the junior varsity shot.
There is a lower efficacy rate quoted, which leads people to believe that the efficacy is lower (70% < 95%), however, what scientists are pointing out is that those comparisons are apples and oranges. J&J was tested in multiple countries where variants were circulating which are known to reduce the effectiveness of vaccines, whereas the mRNA counterparts were not.
Yet, the J&J vaccine trials were just as effective in preventing severe illness and disease. All with one shot!
If you have the chance to get J&J, I wouldn't worry that you're getting the junior varsity shot.
Yeah due to the timing of the trials and the prevalence of the variants, you can't really compare the efficacy rates head to head. It might be just as effective as the mRNA vaccines, it might not be, it might even be more effective.
BUT it is good enough. Add in the single dose and relaxed storage requirements and it is a complete game changer.
That said, take what ever you are offered, when you are offered it.
BUT it is good enough. Add in the single dose and relaxed storage requirements and it is a complete game changer.
That said, take what ever you are offered, when you are offered it.
HotardAg07 said:
For what it's worth, I've seen a lot of scientists pushing back on the notion that the J&J vaccine is less effective than the Pfizer/Moderna vaccines.
There is a lower efficacy rate quoted, which leads people to believe that the efficacy is lower (70% < 95%), however, what scientists are pointing out is that those comparisons are apples and oranges. J&J was tested in multiple countries where variants were circulating which are known to reduce the effectiveness of vaccines, whereas the mRNA counterparts were not.
Yet, the J&J vaccine trials were just as effective in preventing severe illness and disease. All with one shot!
If you have the chance to get J&J, I wouldn't worry that you're getting the junior varsity shot.
I agree. Also, Moderna round 2 made me sicker than any actual virus has over the last 17 years. If I still needed a vaccine I wouldn't turn any of them down, but I would pick the J&J vaccine over the others if I was offered all three.
As others mentioned, its about what is available. I got the Moderna vaccine, but would have happily taken the Pfizer or J&J.
I'm not a scientist/doctor/virologist, but have tried to educate myself and it appears all 3 offer a good chance at keeping you from getting symptoms and an almost universal protection (so far) of keeping you from getting severe disease.
I really see the J&J taking off because of it being 1 shot and easier storage requirements.
So long as people can get needles in arms ASAP if they so desire, that's the end game here.
I'm not a scientist/doctor/virologist, but have tried to educate myself and it appears all 3 offer a good chance at keeping you from getting symptoms and an almost universal protection (so far) of keeping you from getting severe disease.
I really see the J&J taking off because of it being 1 shot and easier storage requirements.
So long as people can get needles in arms ASAP if they so desire, that's the end game here.
SouthTex99 said:
I'm a 1c guy, essential worker but not qualified to receive a vaccine yet. I want to get it as soon as available, but not willing to step in line ahead of grandma.
Once available I'd prefer the J & J because its one and done. But I'm not going to turn down a vaccine because of the label on the bottle.
Same scenario here. I'll take whatever I can get when I have the go ahead. I know I can lie and get it now, but I still know plenty of eligible people who haven't been able to get it yet, so I'm not "jumping the line."
Duncan Idaho said:
Yeah due to the timing of the trials and the prevalence of the variants, you can't really compare the efficacy rates head to head. It might be just as effective as the mRNA vaccines, it might not be, it might even be more effective.
BUT it is good enough. Add in the single dose and relaxed storage requirements and it is a complete game changer.
That said, take what ever you are offered, when you are offered it.
Why would I take 2 shots that have had more severe side effects when I could take 1 shot and have less side effects? Even if the side effects are the same, I would rather deal with them once than twice.
If you are using simple kindergarten logic, you can see why people would prefer the J&J vaccine. You don't have to be a Qanon supporter to use basic common sense.
This. I had a light case of covid over Christmas, so I'm not in a rush, and would prefer to get the J&J vaccine when it becomes available.Gumby said:Duncan Idaho said:
Yeah due to the timing of the trials and the prevalence of the variants, you can't really compare the efficacy rates head to head. It might be just as effective as the mRNA vaccines, it might not be, it might even be more effective.
BUT it is good enough. Add in the single dose and relaxed storage requirements and it is a complete game changer.
That said, take what ever you are offered, when you are offered it.
Why would I take 2 shots that have had more severe side effects when I could take 1 shot and have less side effects? Even if the side effects are the same, I would rather deal with them once than twice.
If you are using simple kindergarten logic, you can see why people would prefer the J&J vaccine. You don't have to be a Qanon supporter to use basic common sense.
DeSantis says he wants the J&J shot, so we may have a win/win here. If we can get the people most likely to be hesitant about the vaccine to take the one that's easiest to distribute.
And the J&J vaccine is based on more familiar technology that people are aware of.Gumby said:Duncan Idaho said:
Yeah due to the timing of the trials and the prevalence of the variants, you can't really compare the efficacy rates head to head. It might be just as effective as the mRNA vaccines, it might not be, it might even be more effective.
BUT it is good enough. Add in the single dose and relaxed storage requirements and it is a complete game changer.
That said, take what ever you are offered, when you are offered it.
Why would I take 2 shots that have had more severe side effects when I could take 1 shot and have less side effects? Even if the side effects are the same, I would rather deal with them once than twice.
If you are using simple kindergarten logic, you can see why people would prefer the J&J vaccine. You don't have to be a Qanon supporter to use basic common sense.
Anyone here that has tried to sell new technology to a client before? It's the same mindset.
God forbid people use a bit of critical thinking and personal risk analysis when it comes to personal health.
Gumby said:Duncan Idaho said:
Yeah due to the timing of the trials and the prevalence of the variants, you can't really compare the efficacy rates head to head. It might be just as effective as the mRNA vaccines, it might not be, it might even be more effective.
BUT it is good enough. Add in the single dose and relaxed storage requirements and it is a complete game changer.
That said, take what ever you are offered, when you are offered it.
Why would I take 2 shots that have had more severe side effects when I could take 1 shot and have less side effects? Even if the side effects are the same, I would rather deal with them once than twice.
If you are using simple kindergarten logic, you can see why people would prefer the J&J vaccine. You don't have to be a Qanon supporter to use basic common sense.
I can see the argument being about the additional effectiveness the 2 shot gives. I don't necessarily agree with that but I can see the logic behind it.
Maybe some. for me and a few I know, it's the convenience of one time to get it versus two.SunrayAg said:bigtruckguy3500 said:
I've met quite a few people that are willing to get the J&J vaccine, but not Pfizer or Moderna. Anyone know why?.
Because the Facebook fearmongers haven't started spreading made up stories about it altering your dna yet...
TheMasterplan said:
And the J&J vaccine is based on more familiar technology that people are aware of.
Anyone here that has tried to sell new technology to a client before? It's the same mindset.
God forbid people use a bit of critical thinking and personal risk analysis when it comes to personal health.
That may be the perception, which is fine, but I really don't think people realize how radically different this vaccine is than any other vaccine. It's just a smidge less radically different than the Pfizer/Moderna mRNA vaccines.
I'll take a closer look into it if that's the case. From what I've read, it has been described as similar to what we've had in the past.
I'm also 32 years old and would rather just get the one dose.
I'm also 32 years old and would rather just get the one dose.
bigtruckguy3500,
I agree J&J is more novel than most are thinking.
I originally assumed that J&J was going to be an inactivated whole virus vaccine. It is actually a Viral Vector type. So as you pointed out you are being infected by an Adenovirus with some added SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein spliced in.
Novavax is likely to be the first of the Protein Subunit version that is available.
There are differences between the various vaccines. These may turn out to be inconsequential, but we won't really know that for a long time. More confusing, the picture evolves along with virus.
I agree J&J is more novel than most are thinking.
I originally assumed that J&J was going to be an inactivated whole virus vaccine. It is actually a Viral Vector type. So as you pointed out you are being infected by an Adenovirus with some added SARS-CoV-2 Spike protein spliced in.
Novavax is likely to be the first of the Protein Subunit version that is available.
There are differences between the various vaccines. These may turn out to be inconsequential, but we won't really know that for a long time. More confusing, the picture evolves along with virus.
Speaking in terms of the general population, not the well-informed scientific types, does the name Johnson and Johnson give people a sense of familiarity, confidence, etc and push them to take that vaccine? I'm not trying to start an argument or anything, I am simply curious. I am 51 years old and J&J is a name I have heard since my childhood. To this day if I think of baby shampoo, I think of J&J and the trust that product has. Band Aid bandages....J&J, Listerine is J&J, etc. That name is familiar to most and in times of crisis you instinctively go with what you trust.
I recognize they are all good vaccines. I just read a post up above that indicates some people prefer the J&J vaccine over the other two and it got me thinking if this was at least one of the reason. Personally, I don't care, I will take and trust whatever is available.
I recognize they are all good vaccines. I just read a post up above that indicates some people prefer the J&J vaccine over the other two and it got me thinking if this was at least one of the reason. Personally, I don't care, I will take and trust whatever is available.
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