Looks like Haiti has this figured out somehow

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https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/05/04/992544022/one-of-the-worlds-poorest-countries-has-one-of-the-worlds-lowest-covid-death-rat

I wonder why they have been able to dodge the worst outcomes from this. Other diseases are crowding it out? Young population? Not overweight? I have no idea, although it is very interesting to see.
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So they handled Covid like we have for every other respiratory disease until 2020 and it worked out the best. Shocking. No mask, no social distancing, no financial incentive for treating.
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Bobcat-Ag said:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/05/04/992544022/one-of-the-worlds-poorest-countries-has-one-of-the-worlds-lowest-covid-death-rat

I wonder why they have been able to dodge the worst outcomes from this. Other diseases are crowding it out? Young population? Not overweight? I have no idea, although it is very interesting to see.
I have mentioned this fact on a couple of threads on this board and not much attention has been paid to it. I lived and worked in Haiti for 21 months and have extensive contacts there.

From what I am being told they never really shut down much there and while they were tasked with making the hell outta PPE at the height of the mess, the masses there never really got PPE and masks and such so there wasn't much use in all the lunacy

Haiti basically can't lock down, people really do live hand to mouth there and getting food is a daily thing for many, when there is food. Probably 99.5% of that side of the island is open air, no A/C and people live crammed together in a big way. The manufacturing plants down there are open air and crowded and may the Good Lord help us, the public transportation available there is as nasty and crowded as anything one can imagine.

My personal belief is that immune systems are tougher there for those that survive at birth, the "open airness" of everything, and the fact that they just had to live with it and deal with it helped them get through it much better than other places. But the open air aspect of things has made an impression me in a big way. Our plant in Mex has been open air since this deal started. A bigger one up the road, same demographic of folks, is enclosed and had to be A/C'ed. They had 4.5 cases to our 1 per capita at the height of the deal. There has to be something to that (and they had better and stricter protocols than we did).
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You don't have to protect the elderly and people with pre-existing conditions if they are already dead

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Bobcat-Ag said:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/05/04/992544022/one-of-the-worlds-poorest-countries-has-one-of-the-worlds-lowest-covid-death-rat

I wonder why they have been able to dodge the worst outcomes from this. Other diseases are crowding it out? Young population? Not overweight? I have no idea, although it is very interesting to see.
probably low bmi. younger poulation. humid climate. more open air. Haiti is not a country to emulate. it is a terrible government and a horribly oppressed people.
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Unfortunately, you'd have to have a pretty bad epidemic in Haiti for anybody to notice.
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Enrico Pallazzo
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They aren't a bunch of fat, big mac eating slobs like 80% of america
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Lol, haiti does not 'figure' anything out. **** just happens.
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Fore Left! said:

They aren't a bunch of fat, big mac eating slobs like 80% of america


That doesn't represent 80% of America, just 80% of your community.

I look around and see very healthy, and successful people in my area.
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Dos Tasadores De TAMU said:

Fore Left! said:

They aren't a bunch of fat, big mac eating slobs like 80% of america


That doesn't represent 80% of America, just 80% of your community.

I look around and see very healthy, and successful people in my area.


LOL. Is this supposed to be some sort of flex? Literally 75% of the country is overweight. Statistical fact. Educate yourself
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India was also doing great, until they weren't.

However, with my limited knowledge of Haiti I would guess that demographically they more resemble places in Africa which haven't bad outbreaks than India. Having an average age of 22.7 years old is probably really advantageous in a pandemic that only kills old people.
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cbr said:

Lol, haiti does not 'figure' anything out. **** just happens.
I think that is precisely why they didn't have the explosion of cases and deaths that other places had, the virus ran a more normal progression through that populace. Personal opinion of mine is that there is a lot more that science does not know or understand about this virus than it does and in that unknown info there are going to be some answers that eventually show that lockdowns and all this isolation was not the best thing to fight this virus. But given the political situation that may never come to light sadly enough.
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What is really astounding about the Haiti stats is that when compared with the DR, with which they share an island, the numbers make no sense.

Knowing Haiti, the cases and deaths there are under reported, without any doubt. But even if the numbers are 10X wrong, the cases and deaths are much lower than their island neighbor with whom they share an extremely porous border and with whom they have extensive commercial and social interaction.

The Dominicans I used to work with in Haiti opted to stay in Haiti for extended periods during the high of the fear due to what they saw on the ground and what they were being told about things back home.

Say what one will about Haiti, but Haiti was one of the reasons that supplies of PPE increased greatly in the US as thousands of Haitians turned on a dime and sewed and made goods 7 days a week, 24 hours a day.

During my time in Haiti I saw things such a Pink Eye spread to thousands of people in a few days, serious flu's the same. At different times unknown maladies also affected large groups, but people bounced back quickly out of necessity.

Nicaragua is also an anomaly when compared to its southern and northern neighbors, all of which had strict lockdowns and all of which have better and more available healthcare.

At the height of the terror/fear, having lived in both those countries, I thought things were going to be terrible, yet it didn't happen.
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Dos Tasadores De TAMU said:

Fore Left! said:

They aren't a bunch of fat, big mac eating slobs like 80% of america


That doesn't represent 80% of America, just 80% of your community.

I look around and see very healthy, and successful people in my area.
2/3 Americans are overfat, we are not a healthy nation
Enrico Pallazzo
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Yep, more than that even. 43% are fully obese (bmi > 30) with another 31% being overweight. BMI is not a perfect measure for every single person, but it's directionally a good measure in mass numbers.
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Im no Haiti expert but I would imagine theres not too many tourists and travelers that go to Haiti frequently, compared to other places like Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, Mexico etc. I was in Puerto Rico a few weeks ago and the island is crawling with tourists. Not surprisingly Puerto Rico's cases spiked in April when there was an influx of American tourists.
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They have less TVs in Haiti.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!
FrioAg 00
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Only 4.3% of their population is 65 or older
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BadMoonRisin said:

They have less TVs in Haiti.
Like 27in vs big screens in America? I would suspect this is true.
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