Subtle change at CDC vaccine tracker page

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beerad12man
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https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations

Don't know if anyone else saw this, but in the third column, it shows 58.2% of adults with a single dose. Up until today, that always said total doses administered. Yesterday it was 262 million. So they must have changed it this morning.

I may be reading too much into it, and it is subtle, but the narrative seems to be switching to adult vaccinations.

I think they are going to tie in 70% of adults with a single dose to easing up recommended restrictions. Not that I like it, but just my opinion on it.
erube
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"I think they are going to tie in 70% of adults with a single dose to easing up recommended restrictions. Not that I like it, but just my opinion on it."

Seems reasonable - that would match with Biden's goal to get 70% of adults a single dose by July 4 + goal of a more normal July 4.

https://www.npr.org/2021/05/04/993537622/biden-sets-new-goal-for-at-least-70-of-adults-to-be-vaccinated-by-july-4
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i still think 70% is a legit stretch goal

not the same category as the 100 MM shots in 100 days layup
coolerguy12
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The official narrative is that if 70% of adults can get at least one dose of the vaccine and 160 million fully vaccinated by 7/4/21 then we could start to see life look closer to normal.

[url] https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/05/04/fact-sheet-president-biden-to-announce-goal-to-administer-at-least-one-vaccine-shot-to-70-of-the-u-s-adult-population-by-july-4th/[/url]
ORAggieFan
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Here in San Diego we are at 64.5% of those 16+ with at least one.
CDub06
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Our vaccination numbers locally in Texas are falling off a cliff: https://tabexternal.dshs.texas.gov/t/THD/views/COVID-19VaccineinTexasDashboard/VaccineDosesAdministered?%3Aorigin=card_share_link&%3Aembed=y&%3AisGuestRedirectFromVizportal=y

We're nearing 50% of adults in Montgomery County with at least 1 shot, but those getting their first shots is slowing tremendously.
beerad12man
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Yes, but it's 70% overall. biden isn't going to look at state by state, even though if they really had done science behind 70%, you'd narrow it down to area more so than across the entire country. But none of it is regarded in science anyways.

We are at 52.4% of adults, and will likely get to around 60% unless there are further pushes for military, business mandates, etc. We won't get to 70% in Texas. But I do believe we get to 70% in the inner cities, which with population probably matters more. And since Texas is likely one of the most naturally immune places on earth due to living much closer to normal than most, we should be fine regardless. My guess is we are over 70% of adults with some kind of immunity including natural immunity, and will close in on 77-80% adult immunity by July.
beerad12man
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https://www.houstonchronicle.com/projects/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker-texas/

Also I still don't know which one to trust. The Houston chronicle has us higher than anywhere else. 20,304,544 total doses versus everywhere else in the 19 million range. I'm not sure which is more accurate.
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why would you think 70% in inner cities?

maybe specific areas

I think we can certainly get to 70% eventually but the last 5% is going to be a much harder squeeze and likely going to demand what amounts to a bribe
beerad12man
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More liberal. Already higher than remote Texas
cone
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there are two parts of the liberal coalition

one will have like 90%+ jab rate

will the other portion break 50%?
RandyAg98
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SPOILER ALERT:

My family and I are having a normal Memorial Day and July 4th. Along with every other weekend. Don't care what "guidelines" are given to us.
StoneCold99
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Could public health messaging have been any worse during the last few months?

Biden still treating every meeting like he's completely unvaxxed, J&J shutting down based on a tiny, tiny percentage of blood clotting, CDC going completely off the rails, etc. etc.

It's no wonder that number won't hit 70%. They're doing everything they can to get people not to trust the vaccine.
P.U.T.U
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I doubt we will ever reach 70% between the young and healthy that don't feel they need it, the group that is anti-Covid vax for whatever reason, and Fauci/Biden saying things still need to stay the same now whether you are vaccinated or not. I know a lot of people in blue states are saying there is no point of getting it unless they can go back to normal for getting it.
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Personally I'm more worried about the variants that pop up over the next few years and having a lot of people not boostering in the world. This thing is going to evolve us
beerad12man
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borski99 said:

Personally I'm more worried about the variants that pop up over the next few years and having a lot of people not boostering in the world. This thing is going to evolve us
What coronavirus has ever done this in history to become more deadly? What you are describing to me, is much more likely to turn into the common cold over time. Like many are starting to believe the current coronaviruses in humans did in the past, without the help of a vaccine.
cone
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lab leak theory kinda throws cold water on using history as a guideline IMO

let's hope you're right, but guided evolutionary pressure placed on the virus in situ might result in unpredictable changes in the virus when it hits huge populations and gets to figure out a path on its own.

i'm definitely getting whatever booster is offered.
beerad12man
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The lab leak makes it seem like transmissibility is the only thing that may have been altered. Did they work on things that causes higher death rates? With variants continuing to be protected after this thing being around for 18 months now, why would I all of the sudden be worried about it now, with what should be less and less cases by the day? Seems a very unrealistic worry that will only cause you headache, and I guess I'm just not concerned with transmissibility. Only if the death rates show to cause concern.

If a booster is needed, then so be it. But only if it's truly needed. I'm not sitting through a night of body aches ever year if it isn't really needed(it lasted only 12 hours, but that s*** was worse than whatever I had in February 2020, which could have been the flu or covid itself), covid levels are low in our community, reinfection continues to be rare, reinfection leading to severe cases virtually non-existent, etc.

I'll take it a few months of data at a time before making that decision. Especially considering we can only vaccinate about 31% of the world population a year at the current rate. So unless something drastically changes with either covid reinfections, or our rate at which we can vaccinate the globe, I'll let others have it before considering boosters.

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So you're saying they're moving the goal posts to fit a narrative...

You weren't supposed to notice!
BiochemAg97
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cone said:

lab leak theory kinda throws cold water on using history as a guideline IMO

let's hope you're right, but guided evolutionary pressure placed on the virus in situ might result in unpredictable changes in the virus when it hits huge populations and gets to figure out a path on its own.

i'm definitely getting whatever booster is offered.
Once it gets out of the lab, normal evolutionary pressure takes control.
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