Pfizeress effective against Delta

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Should read less effective against infection


Still good at protecting against severe cases

https://www.wsj.com/articles/pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-is-less-effective-against-delta-variant-israeli-data-show-11625572796



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amercer
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/07/us/maryland-unvaccinated-covid-deaths/index.html
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Who cares about Delta? Didn't you hear, we moved on already.

Lambda is going to kill us all.

https://www.livescience.com/amp/lambda-coronavirus-variant.html
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I'm a walking, talking example of this.
jamey
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Comeby! said:

I'm a walking, talking example of this.


How sick did you get? My wife knows someone and theirs was not bad, more like summer allergies
Comeby!
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I'm O+ and had 0 symptoms the first time, nothing now.
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Quote:

"There is currently no evidence that this variant causes more severe disease or renders the vaccines currently deployed any less effective," according to Public Health England. More studies are needed to see if these mutations really do affect how the virus behaves.

No evidence...but fear!!!!
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Comeby! said:

I'm O+ and had 0 symptoms the first time, nothing now.
Are you saying this is your second case of COVID? Once before being vaxed and now after having the Pfizer vax?

If so, a couple of add'l questions. When was your first case? Any idea on how you caught it each time? Were you told you had the Delta strain this time?
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AggieBiker said:

Comeby! said:

I'm O+ and had 0 symptoms the first time, nothing now.
Are you saying this is your second case of COVID? Once before being vaxed and now after having the Pfizer vax?

If so, a couple of add'l questions. When was your first case? Any idea on how you caught it each time? Were you told you had the Delta strain this time?
If this is your situation, you should probably buy a lottery ticket.
Comeby!
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AggieBiker said:

Comeby! said:

I'm O+ and had 0 symptoms the first time, nothing now.
Are you saying this is your second case of COVID? Once before being vaxed and now after having the Pfizer vax?

If so, a couple of add'l questions. When was your first case? Any idea on how you caught it each time? Were you told you had the Delta strain this time?

Yes, this is correct. First infection over Christmas and NY 2020 using a PCR test. Vax around late March. Today was with a rapid test. My wife also tested positive after a Pfizer vaccine. Her first time. They don't tell us anything about the strain.
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Thought about that.
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Rapid tests can be quite inaccurate. If you're having zero symptoms, consider the odds of you having Covid versus having a false positive.
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Oye guey..how are you feeling?
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Aston94 said:



Quote:

"There is currently no evidence that this variant causes more severe disease or renders the vaccines currently deployed any less effective," according to Public Health England. More studies are needed to see if these mutations really do affect how the virus behaves.

No evidence...but fear!!!!
Actually their own evidence shows that the Delta variant is less severe than the original:

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Public Health England pegged the fatality rate for Alpha at 1.9%. It estimates the fatality rate for Delta is closer to 0.3%.
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Agree. There are other markers that I noticed with the first infection I've noticed with this one that confirms it for me. Also had allergy type symptoms recently.
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Doing well. Just bummed about the scarlet Q again.
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amercer said:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/07/us/maryland-unvaccinated-covid-deaths/index.html


For those who didn't click, 130 Covid deaths in MD in June. None were vaxxed. What a world.
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Israel now offering Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine booster shots to adults at risk because half of those hospitalized with serious infections were already fully vaccinated.
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Charpie said:

Oye guey..how are you feeling?

We're you trying to say oy vey?
Make Mental Asylums Great Again!
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SamHou said:

Israel now offering Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine booster shots to adults at risk because half of those hospitalized with serious infections were already fully vaccinated.


I mean those two groups (fully vaccinated at risk people and unvaccinated at risk people) aren't even close to the same size. The vast majority of at risk people have been vaccinated, again proving that the vaccines are very effective at preventing serious disease. I wouldn't be surprised if in 2 months or so the CDC recommends a booster shot in the at risk population given the current situation. It's probably be the smart thing to do.
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Pfizer, Israel agree: New COVID vaccines coming August 1

Pfizer, Israel agree: New COVID vaccines coming August 1

As Israel continues to register a high number of daily cases, the Health Ministry opens up third vaccine shot for immunocompromised patients.

All the current supply of vaccines Israel possesses is due to expire on July 31. For this reason, individuals under 18 were not supposed to be able to receive a first shot until new vaccines arrived since three weeks are supposed to elapse between the first and second shots. The country currently has some 200,000 doses of Moderna, which are only authorized for adults.

However, thanks to the new deal, the vaccination campaign will continue.

"We have been working on the issue of vaccines for several weeks," Bennett said. "This morning I am pleased to announce that after a series of talks with Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, we closed a deal last night to move up the next vaccination delivery to August 1st."

"There are vaccines for everyone," he further said, inviting all those who haven't gotten inoculated to do so.

Some 200,000 doses of vaccines are expected to be delivered on August 1.

Last week, Israel announced it had reached a deal with South Korea for a vaccine exchange deal. Under this deal, South Korea has been delivered some 700,000 doses, which it will return with their next vaccine delivery.

Earlier in the day, Health Minister Nitzan Horowitz said that immunocompromised patients in Israel will be able to receive a third shot of the Pfizer vaccine starting from today.

Speaking to KAN Radio, Horowitz said that the healthcare providers will determine who are the eligible patients. The opportunity is available for those who are in specific conditions, for example those who underwent an organ transplant.

In the meantime, Israel continues to register a high number of daily cases. If at the beginning of June some 10-20 new virus carriers every day, today we are talking about several hundreds. Most days last week, Israel registered over 500 cases. On Saturday there were 261 new virus carriers identified, but with a significantly lower number of tests some 50,000 compared to over 70,000.

The number of active cases, which had dropped to less than 200 just a few weeks ago, currently stands at over 4,100.

At the same time, the increase in serious morbidity has remained minimum. As of Saturday night there were 44 serious patients. In April, with a similar number of active cases, they were over 260.

At the coronavirus cabinet meeting last Wednesday, the ministers said the number of patients in serious condition will be the central parameters to determine the country's strategy against the virus.

Prof. Eran Segal, a computational biologist at the Weizmann Institute of Science, who is an advisor to the government has said that he does not believe Israel will reach the same number of such patients that it registered at the peak of the pandemic some 1,200.

"Why do I think we are not going back to some 1,000 seriously ill patients in the hospitals?," he tweeted. "Because all it takes to return to the pre-Delta decline (in cases) is an additional number of individuals vaccinated or recovered. How many? It is not clear, maybe 500,000, maybe more."

Before the contagious Delta variant spread in Israel, many experts thought that the country had reached some form of herd immunity, since the outbreaks were very limited for several months.

However, the rate of a population immune from the virus though inoculation or previous infection required to reach herd immunity increases as the ability of the virus to infect increases, as in the case of the Delta variant.

"Another 200,000 have been vaccinated in the last two weeks and if some more among the 1.1 million we have not yet vaccinated get jabbed, that may be enough" Segal further wrote. "If not, and the increase in new cases will continue, but this time, because of the vaccines, there will have to be much more cases than before to reach the same amount of seriously ill patients. According to our model maybe even 500,000, which in itself will lead to many people recovering, who will help start a new decline (in cases).

Segal noted that in the UK, where the Delta variant is raging, there are eight to ten times less people who succumb to the virus, and three or four time less hospitalized patients compared to the period before vaccination started.

Also on Sunday, the government approved the appointment of Coronavirus Commissioner Prof. Nachman Ash as the new director-general of the Health Ministry, to replace Prof. Chezy Levy.
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