Thought having B-finals at Regionals was a nice addition. Must be torture on the kids waiting so long for the call-ups to come out, stupid snow.

I know we had a thread about State last year, so what's the word on the street this season? Kingwood looked really good at Regionals. It's going to be brutal next year when they're in the same District as the Woodlands. Hard to really compare teams yet, since none of the region psych sheets went up and no results have been posted.

There's a chance we'll get another Edwards/Robinson/Umbach showdown in the 100 back. Robinson won Region 5, know Edwards was swimming it (and top seed) in 4, Spice, what about Umbach?

I spent two days in San Antonio watching Region VII-4A. I haven't really looked at all the 5A times yet since TISCA hadn't posted any 5A results yet. Region 2-5A is delayed because of weather.

The addition of consolation was a big factor. That tends to reward bigger and deeper teams - while reducing the scoring of a small team with 2-3 fast kids.

In 4A Kingwood Park should run away with it (boys). There will be a big fight for 2nd through 5th between Frisco, Lake Travis, Alamo Heights, and Frisco Wakeland. All things considered - the times so far seem fast sans tech suits.

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Yeah, talked with a friend who's in Region 2. She says they're doing both prelims and finals today, that's rough. Maybe a small disadvantage to them.

What about for girls, Frisco looks pretty strong in 4A.

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True, but it seems here in Houston that a lot of the swimming powers are being concentrated in a few districts. Extending this scoring out to 16 spots gives an even huger advantage to teams in weaker districts.

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As evidence, Missy Franklin in Colorado broke national records this weekend. http://theswimmerscircle.com/2010/02/15/missy-franklin-breaks-13-14-nag-nfhs-records/

48.39 in the 100 free? As a 14-year old? Are you kidding?

I watched Region IV this weekend. Umbach didn't swim the back, he went fly (49 I think?) and im (1:49) instead. Edwards went 49 in the back. Lots of fast swimming there. The high school swimmers are as fast or faster than last year pretty much across the board. Interesting how the loss of the fancy suits doesn't seem to have affected the younger swimmers. It makes sense if you think about it tho.

I like the consol heat for purposes of giving more kids a second swim, but for scoring I hate it haha. Mostly cuz my HS team wouldve been screwed if they'd done it like that when I swam. I always like to see smaller teams scoring higher per event win over teams with a butt load of swimmers. Sometimes it doesn't matter tho (aka the woodlands wouldve ran away with this meet either way).

State will be interesting, that's for sure. Couple of seniors already committed, some still trying to prove themselves,and a bunch of young guys making names for themselves. Fun fun.

09, Any future/potential future Aggies that we should keep an eye out for?

Normally Highland Park dominates the 4A girls. But you're right - Frisco looks strong.

Anyone who swam this weekend at regions could be a potential future aggie! But ya there are a few. This years high schoolsenior class is not as strong as last years, or next years for that matter. Lots of juniors this year to keep an eye on, seniors tho we will know more come sectionals. Johnny Edwards is apparently dead set on going to austin, but things can change. He has one sister that goes here and one that goes to tu, and to me its still worth the effort to sway him. Then again I am a little bias ha. I know Sorensen is goin to byu, ian bishop to so.car, barber to zona, kerrington to tu. Other than that I'd say keep an eye on an senior who swims at state. There are quite a few the coaches are watching/talking to. Sorry, I know that's kinda vague and not as specific as I'm sure you were hoping for haha

So none that are committed yet? I wish this were football. We'd know everyone who wore a maroon shirt to church yesterday, let alone all this crypticness about who's considering us! Jk.

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He has one sister that goes here and one that goes to tu,

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But the one that goes to A&M is the older, and could inflict significantly higher amounts of pain on him than could the one in Austin. So we've got that going for us.

At the Region 5 finals, they were announcing where some of the top swimmers were going to school during the A-final lane assignments. It was pretty cool, but kinda odd at the same time. The announcer had a definite bias in his announcements.

t.u. is picking up that breaststroker (girl) from Memorial who's already going a 1:02. Yowzers. Their breaststrokers are getting a whole lot stronger lately, and ours are unfortunately about to get a whole lot weaker.

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"The high school swimmers are as fast or faster than last year pretty much across the board. Interesting how the loss of the fancy suits doesn't seem to have affected the younger swimmers. It makes sense if you think about it tho"

Maybe on the results you're looking at, but my hometown's region was significantly slower for places 3-8. I think the suits affected younger (slower?) swimmers more. Who knows.

One of the big complaints from the swimmers themselves about the suits is that the suits weren't just making less drag, more hydrodynamic bodies, etc, but were actually affecting peoples' technique, improving their body position, and stuff. Somehow it was thought that they would correct certain inefficiencies in some swimmers' strokes. Maybe that's what you're seeing situation.

Blu, Edwards' oldest sister was the one who went to tu, maybe he is closer with the younger sister ;-p

And I definitely agree about the strokes affecting techniques. They cover up the serious flaws in strokes, body positioning and sometimes training. But Region 4 records were falling like crazy that's for sure

Oh ya, and i don't believe we have any texas kids comitted yet...just know were talking to a bunch

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Blu, Edwards' oldest sister was the one who went to tu, maybe he is closer with the younger sister ;-p

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Does he have a third sister??? I only know the one that goes to A&M, and she's class of '10, whereas the one at t.u. is class of '12. I just confirmed it on facebook!

5A callups are up.
http://tisca.org/2010%20UIL%20Meet%20files/StateMeet/2010-5a-state-meet-call-ups.pdf

Oh good call. Ya he does have 3 sisters, I completely forgot. I feel really old now haha. His oldest went to tu ('08 I think), middle here, and then the 3rd currently tu.

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http://tisca.org/2010%20UIL%20Meet%20files/StateMeet/5apsych.htm

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Annddd 5A psych sheets are up.

Wolverine -- the girls had commitments from like 5 breaststrokers, including a Olympic Trials semifinalist in Onstott who's already here...Sarah Henry is also a quite nasty breaststroker too...if there's one place the ladies are weak next year, the breaststroke ain't it...

I think the hands down best swimmmer in 5A is Lily Moldenhauer of Churchill. Seeded #1 in 100 fly with 53.53 and 100 back with 52.89.

She is very likely untapered and that backstroke time is faster than ANYONE at A&M so far this year.

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You're right, totally forgot about that.

Spicewood -- that 52.89 would rank #4 in the NCAA right now...I would highly bet there was some sort of rest/taper going on there...

...and Wilkinson isn't that far behind her at 53.3...she usually swims the 100 back at Big 12's so I'd imagine well see a faster time out of her as well.

Hard for us to know if there was a taper. I assume it was the amount of taper that you would do 2 (or 3 for sectionals? When are sectionals this year?) weeks out of your big meet, because she couldnt've been worried about qualifying for State.

Either way, that's still a damn impressive time!

Moldenhauer swam a 53.93 100 back in late November at the South Zone TISCA. She also swam a 1:57.62 200 back in that meet. I saw her swim those races.

It would be pointless for her to taper for regionals. Her practice times would be fast enough to get to state.

Sectionals are March 4-7 in College Station.

Apparently they are pushing the meet in Austin more this year, trying to draw a bigger crowd, so there should be a more even split between sectionals and whatever they call the meet in austin. Not sure if they are the same weekend or not this year, I know sometimes in past, i think, the austin meet has been the week after sectionals.

Just wanted to clarify straight from the horse's mouth. Middle sister says that Oldest sister went to MIT, and is at UT-Houston Grad school, middle sister is at A&M, and youngest sister is at t.u, so we're evenly split there. Also, brother has not set his heart on anywhere specific yet.

Everyone that knows the Edwards' which is probably a lot of people in the Texas swimming community) knows that they're a great family, and he's a great kid. I'm sure he'll end up at whichever school is right for him, and I won't hold it against him, even if he does end up being a dirty 'sip. ;-)

Unfortunately for us Ags, Moldenhauer committed to the bad guys.

I stand corrected. Now that you mention it i guess I do remember her going to MIT...oops

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Not just committed, but signed LOI. She is the cousin of UT baseball player Russell Moldenhauer.

http://www.texassports.com/sports/w-swim/spec-rel/021410aaa.html

How many scholarships are available for the men's team?

How are walk-ons dealt with?

9.9 scholarships

walk-ons are simply non-scholarship athletes...everything else is the same

To me - committed = LOI

Bogus - the men's team has a total of 9.9 scholarships for men. That is for both swimmers and divers.

Jay and Lerew allocate the 9.9 as they see fit. I think a sizable portion of the roster is essentially walk-on.

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Corey Nelson says hi . . .

Corey didn't sign an LOI. I knew Moldenhauer signed an LOI.

In math I learned that both sides of the equal sign are the same.

...but hadnt he "committed"...which would make the equation a little different...?

When I said Moldenhauer had committed - I knew she had signed an LOI.