Illness Runs Amok at Mens NCAA Championships

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Swimming World is reporting that nine Arizona swimmers are in the hospital, including many of their top guys. They also say several Stanford and Texas swimmers are ill (Feigen has been mentioned).

They were all on the same flight to Ohio. One word: WOW.
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This blows my mind! You never want something like this to happen, hope they get better as soon as possible
TheSituation80
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i read the article too, but I read it after they said they removed names of the swimmers. 9 for Arizona!? that's terrible.

So should the aggie men look for a top 5 finish? too soon?
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I think that would be asking a bit much from our guys, but the potential is there to do some considerable moving up in several events if that sickness lingers the rest of the week for sure.

The names of the Arizona swimmers affected was posted in the chat board on collegeswimming.com by a reader before Swimming World was forced to remove it from their site.

[This message has been edited by Look Out Below (edited 3/24/2010 2:07p).]
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Although I want our boys to beat the boys in Austin any time they can, I hope Feigen can swim at 100%. He's a San Antonio Texas kid, and I'd like to see him at his best.
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They are having an emergency coach's meeting tonight at 9pm...maybe they will release more info after that. I read one thing that said more athletes from those schools are heading to the Hospital one by one...not sure of the truth behind that, but the latest number is around 20 total swimmers. Yikes
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meet postponed until friday. it is VERY unfortunate for the teams/swimmers involved who got sick, but im sorry, postponing the meet is ridiculous. i kno it is very concentrated to a few teams (granted its the top 3 teams at the meet), but S**T happens sometimes that we cant control.

UPDATE: per collegeswimming.com the coaches mtg is still going on, and a heated one at that. Talking about the possibility of Thursday Timed Finals.

UPDATE: final decision is to start at noon Friday. CDC wont let sick swimmers into the facility until Friday

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Are any of the A&M's team affected? Is this food poisoning or a virus or what?
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no Ags sick. gastrointestinal something is what the report is. food/water poisoning on the plane is the general assumption
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Texagg09, check your email.
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I mean, I agree that it's a little ridiculous. They wouldnt've postponed it if it were A&M, or Arizona State, or any of the smaller teams that are at NCAA's.

The only nod that I can give them is that if the CDC are the ones not letting the sick swimmers into the facility, even though it may be some sort of 24 hour bug, or something not contagious, and the swimmers would have felt well enough to swim tomorrow but the CDC wouldn't let them, then they don't have much of a choice.

Are they going to finish on Sunday instead?
texagg09
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gotcha Blastoff.

I dont know why they said that about the CDC, that seems weird to me. I agree tho, if this were mid/lower tier teams, they wouldnt have ever even considered postponing it, even for an hour, let alone 26 hours. Ridiculous. What if those 3 teams had gotten sick before the plane ride? retarded
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I would assume they finish Sunday. Apparently the NCAA is looking into reimbursing teams for extra travel expenses.
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The CDC (yes the one based in Atlanta, bureaucratic bs at its best) has postponed the meet, because some of the swimmers who are sick swam at the pool today. They were supposed to be isolated for 24 hours. Way to screw the meet up for everyone else! I cannot imagine what all the teams and parents must be going through right now regarding flights home, I'm sure most of them were leaving on Sunday. Hopefully the Ags will stay mentally tough!
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interesting 5-Doubt. That ads a new perspective on things. Still think its crap tho
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I think it's a load of crap too, but those guys will just have to make the best out of it. I wonder what the guys who shaved already will do.

EDIT: typo

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texagg09
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well said!
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quote:
I mean, I agree that it's a little ridiculous. They wouldnt've postponed it if it were A&M, or Arizona State, or any of the smaller teams that are at NCAA's.


The CDC is part of this...how were they even on the scene soon enough? Or did they just call in from the ATL and say push it back a day?

Seems more like some NCAA BS protecting Darth Vader and the gang.

AGBlastoff
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I still don't like it. But now that we know that it wasn't just the CDC restricting those swimmers, but in fact stating that they couldn't use the pool because those swimmers had been in it, kinda puts to rest any conspiracy theories.

Then again, I'm sure the NCAA would've made the same decision without the prodding from ATL.
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Its very interesting to read on Collegeswimming.com about all this mess. There are definitely some holes in it all that hint at shady doings. The story posted on collegeswimming has some good info, and then reading on the message boards is crazy. So many different people with different perspectives and thoughts on it all. no real validity on the message boards, but it definitely makes you think, back and forth about stuff. Was it really the CDC who postponed the meet? or did they just say the sick swimmers couldnt go to the pool, and the NCAA postponed it? politics in swimming? Federal health threat? very interesting reading on there, all stupid arguments and trolls aside
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I think the truth lies somewhere inbetween. Looking back on everything, it may have been more of an NCAA decision however if a new slew of people were to get sick today they would be absolutely raked over the coals and the meet likely cancelled for not using the nuclear option that they did.

From my understanding of the situation, the coaches had no say-so in the matter at all.
AGBlastoff
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So, since the coaches had an extra day to sit and be anxious about the meet, we got a hold of a few of them and asked what their thoughts were about how much 1 day can really affect a taper.

http://theswimmerscircle.com/blog/2010/03/25/there-goes-the-taper-hood-ncaa-postpones-til-friday/

What do you guys think? Beyond the arguments of whether or not it was the right thing to do, what effect do you think that 1 day has?

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I don't think one day will affect things that much, if at all, and even if it does it affects every team and swimmer equally. These kids were either prepared to swim fast or weren't and the proof will be in the pudding.

Disqualifier: The three sick teams obviously will be affected but that has absolutely nothing to do with the delay.

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texagg09
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Holy hell they confirmed its the "highly contagious Norovirus"...bad news bears for LOTS of people...
SpicewoodAg
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I don't think a 1 day delay will have any physical effect. I doubt if anyone can taper so precisely that their performance level changes with a 1 day change. They all had to plan for a 3 day meet anyway.

Just think about multi-event swimmers for the Olympics or Worlds.

The 24 hours might be big for sick swimmers on the mend.
Muffy
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All local (Columbus) news reports were that all of those ill were on the same Monday afternoon American Airlines flight (flight 1158) from Dallas/Ft Worth and may have eaten at the same restaurant just before the flight.

Supposedly 18 athletes from 3 schools and 1 coach. Arizona, Stanford, University of Texas.

Most recent reports list it as Norovirus. They were treated at University Hospital which is at most 1/2 mile away (straight across an open grassy area)from McCorkle Aquatic Pavilion.

Glad everyone is ok and was able to compete. I hope we get to host again, our pool was tested and found to be immaculate and not the source of the illness.
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