A&M getting #1 JUCO in the Nation

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Physical Graffiti
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Sun Wen is ranked #1 (again).

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AGBlastoff
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For reference, last few JuCo #1's:

Olivia Howlett is at LSU, 2-6 at the #2 line, including a 3-set win over Arkansas' #2.

Jillian O'Neill is still on the roster at Georgia Tech, but doesn't seem to have played a match for them.

Monika Lalewicz committed to Penn State, but never made it to campus apparently.

Kasia Siwosz played a year at Baylor and when 9-8 on the 6 line.

Marta Simic went to UCSB and went 8-9 playing in the Big West at the no. 1/2 lines.

I think you get the point...good publicity, but don't necessarily pan out. If she's as good as Howlett, then she could be a slight upgrade at the 6 line, but not NECESSARILY program-changing. Hoping for the best though!
Physical Graffiti
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I worked for the Ath. Dept. at TJC for the past few years so I know her and the rest of the program pretty well.

She's a good kid, smart and can play some tennis.

I hope she pans out for A&M. I'm more excited that this is one of 'my kids' getting their shot on the big time stage.
Harry Dunne
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Judging by her results, she is good but not great.

She beat North Texas' #3 in a close match but lost in a close one to their #2 (UNT was unranked this year).

She lost 6-1, 6-1 to Lamar's #1 (Lamar also unranked). She lost 6-2, 6-1 to Rice's #1 (Rice ranked 71). The Rice girl lost close in 3 sets to Nazari so she is plenty good, but it looks like Sun Wen is going to be more of a solid 4-6 player on a good team. We need that for sure, but it's too bad we lose Morgan.
aggietennisfan
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You all need to give the girl a chance. Have you all even seen the girl play? Maybe we need to let her on campus first before we decide she isn't any good. FYI-Lamar girl went 21-0 last year at #1.
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The Lamar girl went 20-1, and they played a schedule of unknowns...not ONE ranked player.

That being said, I hope Sun Wen is able to make an impact on our lineup.
Harry Dunne
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Internet forums are pretty much for speculating, as far as I know. Obviously everyone wants her to be good, we are just speculating about how good she might be based on her results.

[This message has been edited by Harry Dunne (edited 5/11/2011 12:29a).]
AGBlastoff
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No Harry, internet forums are SERIOUS BUSINESS!
aggietennisfan
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Thanks Harry and Bigfoot for each of your infinite wisdom and knowledge! Harry - Thanks for explaining to me what a forum is and also thanks for answering my question- no, you have never seen her play. Bigfoot - I was just going by Lamar's website which states she was 21-0. 21-0 0r 20-1 - Thanks for the major correction! Just curious though Bigfoot - what was your college record against unranked opponents?
Original Toad Boy
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Just curious though Bigfoot - what was your college record against unranked opponents?



bigfoot10s
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I played D3 tennis, but I only lost 1 match in conference my freshman year. I guess that's not good enough to have an opinion or question how good her opponents were. Forgot you have to be a professional player to also be a fan.

Where did you play?
Original Toad Boy
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I agree with BigFoot you don't have to have played major div 1 tennis to comment on tennis players. Though it does help if you've had vast tennis experience.

That being said I am sure this player will be a good 4-6 player which you definitely need in the Big 12..

The troubling aspect of this to me is that we are raiding Juco's for players. Usually the best players (Div 1) either go to major schools or pro..

IMHO

[This message has been edited by XIaggie (edited 5/11/2011 9:56a).]
aggietennisfan
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Wow Bigfoot! You must be quite the player! Was that at line 6? I mainly just play for fun, but as you stated - one doesn't need to be a professional tennis player to state an opinion on a forum.
bigfoot10s
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People like you crack me up. Seriously.

I'm sure we know the same about tennis, though. Forgive me for questioning a juco players ability.
aggietennisfan
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Just having some fun with you! Nothing personal! I am sure that she will be no Morgan Frank, but let's hope she will be a little better than what some are saying.
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Like I said before, I hope she makes an impact in the top 6 quickly. I just have questions after seeing the girls she has lost to. Hope she proves me wrong
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Original Toad Boy
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Good post man...I didnt know Grant was at TJC...

Another thing to be said is Tyler JC is one of the best around always one of the better juco programs.
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I think you mean Dash, not Grant.

Dash is doing a great job there, hope he gets a big coaching job someday. He has a great passion for the game.
AGBlastoff
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I've taken a lesson with Dash (and it was, in fact, the only tennis lesson I've ever taken). Great guy. Thanks for the above post, good info, and great perspective on the challenge for players making the jump...

aggietennisfan, I never said she wouldn't be good. I was just giving some historical perspective, because I think some people might be more familiar with JUCO football players, who can come in and be HUGE players in D-1. In college tennis, it's just very rare for even a JUCO #1 to have success above the 5 or 6 line, if they ever crack the lineup period.

I'm rooting for her though! Going to be a crash course for her (hopefully) to get her ready for next spring...hopefully BK can work with her to use her height more effectively. At the least, she should be an effective doubles player (those who have played more tennis than me, long players make good doubles players because they can intimidate at the net, yeah? Does that make sense?)
aggietennisfan
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That's fine AGBlastoff! Just seems like you did a whole lot of research to prove she wouldn't be that good is all. I am quiet familiar with a JUCO making a jump in tennis is different than say football or basketball. Sun Wen seems to be head and shoulders above everyone that she is competing against. I think she will be a great contribution along with the 3 other recruits coming in for next year.
AGBlastoff
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That research took under 5 minutes. You must not be familiar with "Google". It was quite enjoyable to me. I didn't do it to prove she wouldn't be good, I did it because I was curious. But you're right, why bother backing up your opinions with research...let's just say "yeah, she's an AGGIE, she's gonna be AWESOME! National Champs 2012!" and not bother backing it up...

Also, believe it or not, you're not the only one who reads this message board. In fact, its quite popular.
aggietennisfan
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AGBlastoff it is quite obvious that your intention was to prove that she will not be any good. All I am saying is that she will be a solid player. Nobody is saying National Champions for the women. However, do you really think the men will win it all. You must be on crack! The men have had an awesome year, but to say they will beat Virginia is ridiculous. That is assuming that they beat Stanford.

Just curious about your comment-Also, believe it or not, you're not the only one who reads this message board. In fact, its quite popular. Not sure where you came up with that one.
bigfoot10s
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pretty sure that XIaggie and aggietennisfan are the same person....
AGBlastoff
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Haha, or at least besties....

Is it obvious that was my intention?? Is it?? Other posters, does it appear that this was my intention?

I think what you mean to say is that "history's intention is to prove she isn't very good." I didn't make anything up. I posted facts. Not biased facts, just regular facts.

The latter comment was in response to your "I'm aware that JUCO tennis players aren't the same as football players" as a reason for why my first post was simply intended to demean. Congratulations, but I wasn't writing it just for you, so you still haven't proven why it's clear that my first post was intended to make her look like a trash player.
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AgBlastoff, I appreciate the EXTENSIVE googling you did and your thoughts are spot on

I would bet there is a good chance she will probably play doubles, but who knows about singles. The women have been all but consistent in the bottom of the lineup, so a good shot she will at least see some playing time. Hopefully Erasmus and Vorster are good enough to round out a strong top four with Naz and Christi.
Physical Graffiti
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Sun Wen won her #1 flight today and TJC Women get their 15th national Championship (44th overall for TJC athletics)
bigboyaggie
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Thanks for the update on Sun winning the national title! Looking forward to her contributing to the Aggies soon!
aggietennisfan
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AGBlastoff I have looked through some previous discussions and realize that you do a lot of research on all of these topics. So perhaps you were not being as hard on Sun Wen as I previously had thought. However, in saying that, I have decided that you must have no life whatsoever. The truth is it doesn't matter what all of the previous junior college champions have done. The only thing that matters is how good Sun Wen is. I don't think the history of all these other player matters at all. And sorry Detective Bigfoot but I am not XLAggie.
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have decided that you must have no life whatsoever


DANG! Burned me! Hard!

You may not be XIAggie, but nobody takes you seriously anymore, so you might as well be. Time to get yourself a sock!
bigfoot10s
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Well there you go blastoff, Aggietennisfan has spoken. You have no life.

Hope he will someday tell me about myself too, especially with his vast tennis knowledge.

Can't wait to hear what you have to say next! Blow us all away!
Original Toad Boy
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Bigfoot your obsession with me is reaching epic proportions.....

I have no socks...hth.


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You may not be XIAggie, but nobody takes you seriously anymore, so you might as well be


Oh no..a bunch of tennis hacks don't take me serious on a message board.

Agblastoff is a Grade A idiot..hth




[This message has been edited by XIaggie (edited 5/12/2011 9:03p).]
bigfoot10s
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if Agblastoff is a grade A idiot, what does that make you?
Original Toad Boy
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Furthermore,

If you knew anything about tennis you would know that JUCO's usually go to small div 1 schools or Div 2...

They almost never go to major Div 1 programs and succeed Wren will play no higher than number 4 if that.

HTH
Harry Dunne
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Didn't Majorie Terburgh come from TJC?
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