A&M/Baylor Mens Tennis

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Silvertaps
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Who is making the trip to Waco? If the #10 Ags beats the #6 Bears Tuesday in Waco, the texas match Saturday will determine the Big 12 Co-Champion. There is a caravan leaving from the Aggie Tennis Center at 4pm on Tuesday afternoon.

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Cooter00
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Interest doubles lineup tonight. How long have we been playing that?
Raven
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Off and on all year. It is a pretty strong combination.
Cooter00
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So is Newp weak in doubles or we sandbagging there?
Too bad they clinched it 4-0. The remaining matches look pretty close. Might have been a little different if we had put a little pressure on them early. Of course that last doubles match was a must win
Aggie Tennis
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We definitely should have won. Ante and Lester had two match points in the tiebreak at number one doubles. That was the difference. Hopefully we beat tu this weekend and then win the Big 12 tourney.
Sir Edmund Bearke
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We definitely should have won.
Are you kidding? The match was over at 4-0. BU's players were already celebrating at that point. Who knows how the final 3 matches would have ended up.
aggie11
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Are you kidding? The match was over at 4-0. BU's players were already celebrating at that point. Who knows how the final 3 matches would have ended
Hey gaylor fan did you see the final score it was 4-3, the doubles was crucial but I wouldn't expect to understand that..OH and how about the German wonder Dorsch seems newport took care of him pretty easily..Gaylor was lucky to pull this one out.


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Sir Edmund Bearke
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gaylor? That has to be one of the most immature and stupid things I have ever heard. Congratulations. Typical aggie wannabe.

As for the actual match, Newport is to be congratulated for beating the #1 player in country. However, that does not equate to A&M "should have won" the match. The match was over at 4-0.

FYI, from the Waco Trib:

Top-ranked Benedikt Dorsch, locked in a tense match with A&M's Ryan Newport on Court 1, didn't have that much patience.

When teammate Benjamin Becker closed out Ante Matijevic, 6-3, 6-4, on Court 3 to give the Bears an insurmountable 4-0 lead, Dorsch threw down his racquet and ran to hug his countryman, risking a code violation.

“I didn't really care,” said the sophomore from Weiden, Germany, who lost seven of the next eight points and eventually the match — his first defeat since January and only his third all season. “It was over. Our goal was to win the match and win the Big 12, and we did it.”

“That just shows you where his head's at,” said Knoll, perhaps the first time that expression was ever used as a compliment. “It's a team sport.”

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Top-ranked Benedikt Dorsch, locked in a tense match with A&M's Ryan Newport on Court 1, didn't have that much patience.

When teammate Benjamin Becker closed out Ante Matijevic, 6-3, 6-4, on Court 3 to give the Bears an insurmountable 4-0 lead, Dorsch threw down his racquet and ran to hug his countryman, risking a code violation.

“I didn't really care,” said the sophomore from Weiden, Germany, who lost seven of the next eight points and eventually the match — his first defeat since January and only his third all season. “It was over. Our goal was to win the match and win the Big 12, and we did it.”

“That just shows you where his head's at,” said Knoll, perhaps the first time that expression was ever used as a compliment. “It's a team sport.
Loser's always have an excuse...What a joke this idiot fits in well with the loser attitude that is Baylor Athletics..Go Home Gaylor bear.
Cooter00
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Freakin maroon colored glasses. IF we had one the doubles match, it COULD have been a different match.
As it was, we won 2 points off "super tiebreakers" wooo. Big deal. Thats 10 points.
We weren't even in one of the matches and got straight setted in 2 others. And you think we SHOULD have won. Makes sense.
I will say props to Newp. He had the guy down when BU won so the guy didn't have any fight in him. or pride apparently.
Sir Edmund Bearke
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Gaylor!! I love it. Thats gonna be my new signature on here. I'm shocked you haven't called me a Bay*** yet.

As for excuses, what is A&M's excuse for losing a match they "should have won."

Aggie 11, this Gaylor Bear will be waiting for more of your brilliant observations.

Aggie11 says: Go Home Gaylor bear.
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Go talking parrot now repeat after me Gaylor sucks!!!!!

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Aggie Tennis
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Sir Edmund Bearke is trying to compensate for the fact that we have scoreboard in basketball, baseball, and football. Yes we should have won the match, but Baylor was lucky and won the doubles point. Benedikt had no chance against Newport last night.
Sir Edmund Bearke
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How do ya'll have scoreboard in basketball. Little Ole "Gaylor" beat A&M 4 games to 1 in men's and women's basketball this year?

I'm still waiting to here why A&M "should have won" the match.

BTW: Calling the other team lucky is what losers say. Just ask Aggie11. The other day when his U-14 soccer team lost again, he called the other team "lucky."

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aggie11
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We have scoreboard in bball because we beat you the last time we played..If you're counting womens bball then you're truly a loser.
Silvertaps
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Sir Edmund...
What I find hilarious is you have resorted to tennis in order to talk smack. I'm not going to say Baylor shouldn't be in the Big 12...every conference needs it's doormat.

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Let this thread go. Baylor won 4-3, despite the fact we played fairly well and had opportunities to win. We could go on all day about the differences in the two programs, but every coach and every school has to make decisions, and Baylor has made theirs. Maybe we will get another shot in Kansas City.
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Gotta agree with Raven on this. As much as I may dislike Baylor and the Dark Lord of the German National Team, they did win the match. Yes, we had our chance in double. Win the doubles point and the outcome MIGHT have been different.

I don't buy the fact that a guy who was 40-2 and ranked #1, quit trying after they won the 4th point. NO ATHLETE WORTH ANYTHING GIVES UP OR QUITS PLAYING...PERIOD!!! If he did "quit", then he has problems, as well as coach knoll.

Baylor won this one...let's get over it and get ready for the horns on Saturday. Maybe we'll get a 2nd chance at Baylor in K.C.

Everyone come out Saturday and support the Aggies!!! It'll be senior day for Ryan Newport.
Sir Edmund Bearke
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Silvertaps, perhaps you should actually READ the entire thread. I wasn't talking smack. Although, I must say that college tennis is one of the more exciting sports around. I wouldn't have said that before I actually went to a few matches.

Some yahoo aggie wannabe said that A&M "should have won" the match. I asked why. Then I just started chatting with aggie11.

Still haven't heard why the ole Ags "should have won" and beaten Gaylor.
Silvertaps
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Sir...
The fact that you are talking *hit on an AGGIE board is smack enough for me. Also, although I won't go as far as saying "we should have one", it was a lot closer than what you seem to think it was. I don't know how long you have been around tennis, but 4-3 is not a blow out by any means. It shows how crutial that last doubles match was on court 1...which A&M lost 9-8.

One other thing, I liked your statement: "Although, I must say that college tennis is one of the more exciting sports around". I'm assuming when you say "around", you mean in wacko...I guess it shows the state of baylor athletics at this point in time....pretty sad. What's up with you saying Gaylor by the way? That's a little weird.
Sir Edmund Bearke
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I haven't been talking *hit. As for the 4-3 result, it was OVER at 4-0. There was no point in finishing those last three matches. Everyone knows that. The NCAA tournament knows that. Once a team gets 4 points they have won. The contest is over. Its called TEAM tennis for a reason.

As for college tennis, have you ever been to a match at the A&M tennis center? College team tennis is incredibly exciting; as you have pointed out EVERY point counts. For that matter, the A&M matches are some of the best around. I live in Bryan and have been to several. Its clearly more exciting than A&M basketball or most other aggie sports.

As for "Gaylor" you should really read the entire thread. I think its kind of cute. Its pathetic smack, but its cute.



Aggie11 says: Go Home Gaylor bear.
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Regardless of how much 'team tennis' this is, when it comes to singles egoes take over. If you can find me a #1 ranked player in any individual sport that doesn't find remaining #1 enough of a motivator to put forth 100% effort then I'll find a Baylor fan that actually thinks their football team is good. Sorry, but it ain't gonna happen.
Silvertaps
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Sir...
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I haven't been talking *hit. As for the 4-3 result, it was OVER at 4-0. There was no point in finishing those last three matches. Everyone knows that. The NCAA tournament knows that. Once a team gets 4 points they have won. The contest is over. Its called TEAM tennis for a reason.

Your lack of colligate tennis knowledge is becoming quite obvious. Allow me to educate you...individual ranking mean just as much to these guys as the team rankings do. There are individual and doubles championships these guys are trying to qualify for. They don't throw away a match once their team has won.

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Sir Edmund Bearke
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Taps, you should be a psychic. You sure can read a player's mind.

BTW: Your lack of proper grammar is obviously "do" to your inbred education.

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Aggie Tennis
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"yahoo aggie wannabe"

That is an Ag Tag by my name. Thanks for playing.

Insulting people on the Internet is cool. You represent your school and yourself well.

When you have two match points and one of them is on serve you should win the match. That would have given us the doubles point and we won three singles matches. So yes, in my opinion, we should have won the match 4-3.
Sir Edmund Bearke
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An Ag Tag? LOL. That is too easy.

MBA, I apologize. I misunderstood how you were using the word "should." I figured you were just whining about how the Aggies were cheated or some such nonsense.

BTW: First, I haven't insulted anyone that hasn't insulted me first. Aggies are known for three things in Texas. The first is being a cult. The second is being sore losers. The third (although I don't think this one is always true) is being a bunch of homosexual sheep lovers. In addition, if you get your feelings hurt by what is said on an internet sports bulletin board, then you need to grow some thicker skin.

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Silvertaps
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Sir dumb@ss...
True, I don't know where the hell "due" came from. I will say this though, it has nothing to do with being psychic moron. To stop playing after your team won is suicide for individual post-season tournament play. By some of your earlier comments, you seem to JUST NOW be learning about how college tennis works...don't act like you know what the hell you are talking about.

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Your lack of proper grammar is obviously "do" to your inbred education.

Seeing as how I went to graduate school at Baylor on scholarship, I guess my "inbred" education was quite a step up from the norm at Baylor. Nice try...now go learn some tennis.

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Sir Edmund Bearke
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Silvertaps, you should really calm down. You have your speculation. I have what the player actually said. You guess. I go to the source.

Ya'll sure are easy to get riled up.
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"i go to the source." are you kidding me? good god you are a moron.
Sir Edmund Bearke
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Moron? That sure is a big word for you to use, isn't it? Perhaps you should look it up in a dictionary (ya'll have those at A&M-College Station, right?) The definition of moron is "a mentally retarded person who has a potential mental age of between 8 and 12 years and is capable of doing routine work under supervision."

I think even a moron can read a quote in a newspaper, ie: a source:

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FYI, from the Waco Trib:

Top-ranked Benedikt Dorsch, locked in a tense match with A&M's Ryan Newport on Court 1, didn't have that much patience.

When teammate Benjamin Becker closed out Ante Matijevic, 6-3, 6-4, on Court 3 to give the Bears an insurmountable 4-0 lead, Dorsch threw down his racquet and ran to hug his countryman, risking a code violation.

“I didn't really care,” said the sophomore from Weiden, Germany, who lost seven of the next eight points and eventually the match — his first defeat since January and only his third all season. “It was over. Our goal was to win the match and win the Big 12, and we did it.”

“That just shows you where his head's at,” said Knoll, perhaps the first time that expression was ever used as a compliment. “It's a team sport.”


You guys are hilarious.
Silvertaps
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HA! Now you are resorting to the source card.
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“I didn't really care,” said the sophomore from Weiden, Germany, who lost seven of the next eight points and eventually the match — his first defeat since January and only his third all season.

Spoken like a true loser. Makes you wonder what he would have said if he won the match against Ryan. He just better be praying to the tennis gods that his seating in the singles tournament isn't effected. It's great to know the NCAA is making some recruiting rules adjustments after this year due to Baylor finding a loop hole. Nothing like 23/24 year olds Germans playing against 18/19 year old Americans. I guess Baylor has had to find any way possible to win these days.

By the way, for someone who has such bitter feelings towards A&M, you sure seem to take great enjoyment in visiting our website. Thanks for coming out and support our Ags.

One more thing, I'm actually very calm...your posts and lack of college tennis knowledge has been very entertaining to me. Please...keep up the good work.

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753 posts.....
Sir Edmund Bearke
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Taps, you would really sound like less of an idiot if you would read the entire thread before typing. I posted that article back on the 16th. I'm not resorting to it now.

BTW: Not that I would expect you to know what the hell you are talking about, but Baylor has only one 23 year old on the roster and he is a senior. The average age of Baylor's team is 20 years old. Furthermore, of the ten players on the team, only three are from Germany. Again, I understand you have no desire to let facts get in the way of your rantings. However, Baylor doesn't have "to find any way possible to win these days." They've won three of the last four Big 12 Championships.

I visit the website because I support the Aggies, I live in College Station and my family has numerous Aggies in it. The only bitter feelings I have are to yahoos who like you give Aggies a bad name with your cult-like insecurities. If we check, I might just make more Aggie athletic events on average in a year than you.

BTW: I'm waiting to hear what exactly I have said concerning college tennis that is incorrect. Enlighten me while I entertain you.


Aggie11 says: Go Home Gaylor bear.
Silvertaps
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Sir dumb@ss...
Serveral things, then I'm done having a pissing contest about this.

First off, you did post that on the 16th...and you did it again on the 22nd moron (don't even know what you posted...what an idiot).

Secondly, something you had post earlier lets me know you don't know a hell of a lot about college tennis and how it works. Here is that post:
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Sir Edmund Bearke
posted 9:35p, 4/17/2003



Silvertaps, perhaps you should actually READ the entire thread. I wasn't talking smack. Although, I must say that college tennis is one of the more exciting sports around. I wouldn't have said that before I actually went to a few matches.

Some yahoo aggie wannabe said that A&M "should have won" the match. I asked why. Then I just started chatting with aggie11.

Still haven't heard why the ole Ags "should have won" and beaten Gaylor.

It's one thing to not know everything there is to know about how college tennis works because you are a new fan....it's another thing to start talking *hit to someone else that knows what they are talking about and has been around college tennis for a quite a while. The arguement you posed is that it didn't matter that Ryan won his match because Baylor had already won...but what you didn't realize is that it DOES matter when it comes to individual performance rankings. As a result of Benedikt Dorsch losing his match to Ryan, he lost the Big 12 Singles Championship and Ryan won it. It will also hurt Dorsch in his seating in the singles national tournament. The fact is, rather Dorsch threw the match or not isn't the issue...playing the matches after the team has clinched is still very important AND DOES MATTER. Here is a link so you can read up on that:
http://www.aggieathletics.com/press/pressRelease.php?PRID=6606
Oh, and by the way...it's HIGHLY unlikely you have been to more athletic events this year than I, I'll just leave it at that.

Third, let me educate you in what I meant by Baylor being the Germany national team. Baylor has had a recent history (not just this year) of recruiting MANY Germans on their team. Yes, they have other players from other countries, but the fact remains that they get professional players from overseas to play here in the states. These kids are MUCH older than most of the kids on other college teams. Although this has not been determined as a recruiting violation, it IS a loop hole though. This is very important here, so read very carefully.....this isn't just me making this critisizm! Like I said before, the NCAA is currently changing and adding recruiting rules for tennis BECAUSE of the Baylor situation. There is a reason why Baylor has won the Big 12 Championship so many times...and the NCAA has seen the loop hole that Baylor has taken advantage of and will be fixing the problem soon.

Admit when you're wrong and move on. Your arguements are tired and entertaining all at the same time.

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Sir Edmund Bearke
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Silvertaps, of course you are giving up. You are wrong.

This is what you typed on the 22nd in response to my post on the 21st repeating (which I pointed out I was repeating btw) what I had typed on the 16th:
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HA! Now you are resorting to the source card.
Notice how you use the word "now" to imply that I had not mentioned it before. You were wrong then and you are wrong now.

Please show me where I ever said
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it didn't matter that Ryan won his match because Baylor had already won
. I said there was no point in finishing those last three matches and I stand by that opinion. However, I never said it didn't matter.

So now you have been caught being wrong about what I've said, when I've said it, and about the make up of the Baylor team. I'm beginning to think you aren't just wrong; you are a liar.




Aggie11 says: Go Home Gaylor bear.
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