What is the goal for the program? Is it to have winning seasons and just make the NCAA 1st round every year? If yes, then sure we can keep Corbelli until she retires. If the goal is to be a Top 15-20 program, then that equates to consistent Sweet 16 and sometimes Elite 8 appearances. I don't see that happening anymore under Corbelli for whatever reason. If that is the goal it's time to move on. There are a lot of good volleyball coaches out there. Texas was in a similar situation about 10 years ago and made a decision to make a change and they became an elite program. We can do the same.Wicked Good Ag said:While we can discuss the Corbelli's future and debate to which I am open to discussion the SEC is the third rated conference in the NCAA behind the power of the BIG 10 and PAC 12HiddenAg2 said:
It really is time to move on from the Corbelli's. This will be her worst season at A&M in a conference that really isn't very good.
The conference was like 5th or 6th a few years ago so the conference has gotten much stronger
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IMO, the goal is to make the NCAA tourney, and the Corbellis have made a career at A&M by doing so often enough. Prior ADs cared little about volleyball, and Woodward appears to have the same level of disinterest. Moreover, fan interest is lukewarm, at best. Unless a commitment is made to upgrading the coaching staff, the program will remain in the second-tier competitively and continue to languish in the lengthy and wide shadow cast over the state by tu. Unfortunately, I don't think there is sufficient interest to effect a meaningful effort to achieve excellence.HiddenAg2 said:Wicked Good Ag said:HiddenAg2 said:
What is the goal for the program? Is it to have winning seasons and just make the NCAA 1st round every year? If yes, then sure we can keep Corbelli until she retires. If the goal is to be a Top 15-20 program, then that equates to consistent Sweet 16 and sometimes Elite 8 appearances. I don't see that happening anymore under Corbelli for whatever reason. If that is the goal it's time to move on. There are a lot of good volleyball coaches out there. Texas was in a similar situation about 10 years ago and made a decision to make a change and they became an elite program. We can do the same.
BTW, the team is presently on a five match losing streak, next to DFL in the SEC, and out of contention for a NCAA tourney slot.
I love watching Amy play. My condolences on her loss
If our athl. Director is disinterested in volleyball then that's a problem in itself. Aggies should want to win at the highest level in every sport. Aggies have the most loyal fans around and they deserve the best! Just making a bowl game and Post season play should not be our standard!
I agree this is part of the reason. It's fantastic experience playing top teams but IMO it happened way too early in the season with such a young team with new faces. They didn't get the opportunity to gel as a team as the loses piled up.BigJim49 AustinNowDallas said:
Playing the NCAA's top schedule hurt our team psychologically in my opinion.
Realizing they weren't up to beating that caliber opponent had to affect their outlook .
Unfortunately there is not enough talent on the team to gel. The team started bad and has stayed bad. A new coach is going to have to clean house if we have any plans of ever being competitive again in the SEC.
3 of the freshman. Connor Davis and Patterson were top 100 players by prepvolleyball. HANS was top 30 as was Blake. There is talent but not there wasn't passing and without passing you can't get into a rhythm
Passing should have improved but didn't. SEC improved and we didn't win sets down the stretch. We played like 8 top 10 teams this year and the results were terrible. We went 3-24 in sets against them which is unacceptable if you want to play with the big boys.
I am curious on which way the program goes next year because that will be the determinant factor
Passing should have improved but didn't. SEC improved and we didn't win sets down the stretch. We played like 8 top 10 teams this year and the results were terrible. We went 3-24 in sets against them which is unacceptable if you want to play with the big boys.
I am curious on which way the program goes next year because that will be the determinant factor
SEC got just 4 teams in the tournament this year. Pac12 got 9. All in all it was a very down year for volleyball in the SEC, one that we could barely compete in. The good news is the corebellis won't have to go to Austin to get their butts whipped by the Longhorns or any other 3rd or 4th seed the selection committee puts in there.
Smu didn't make it this year and it appears that state of Texas got only two schools in, (Texas and Baylor). I don't see any other Texas teams in the bracket.
Smu didn't make it this year and it appears that state of Texas got only two schools in, (Texas and Baylor). I don't see any other Texas teams in the bracket.
Artimus Gordon said:
Smu didn't make it this year and it appears that state of Texas got only two schools in, (Texas and Baylor). I don't see any other Texas teams in the bracket.
How strong is volleyball at the youth and high school level in Texas?
And Corbelli stepped down today. She's a class act, but it's time.
Wow, did not expect that today.
Finally. Change was needed.
Big message sent today by Woodward. Very encouraging news for us minor sports fans at A&M. I think he is going to demand winning at a higher level than just winning seasons and a 1st round NCAA tourney appearance. I expect he will get one of the big names in the sport if the football hire is any indication. It also means he probably already has a deal in place with the new coach.
Our final RPI was 59 and having a winning record would have put the team on the bubble for a NCAA bid. My own criteria would be that if a team missed the NCAA tournament in consecutive years then the AD would need to figure out why. Wonder if Woodward will look at hiring a woman as head coach because Corbelli was one of 4 woman head coaches here.
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I hope he hires the best coach, regardless of gender. I would guess he couldn't pry Mick Haley away from USC.mullokmotx said:
Our final RPI was 59 and having a winning record would have put the team on the bubble for a NCAA bid. My own criteria would be that if a team missed the NCAA tournament in consecutive years then the AD would need to figure out why. Wonder if Woodward will look at hiring a woman as head coach because Corbelli was one of 4 woman head coaches here.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
I am a bit disappointed and shocked. The Corbelli's have a done a good job and one disappointing season shouldn't be the ax and yes I think this is a firing rather than a resignation in terms of actual events. That said TAMU under the Corbelli's has based their system on ball control and solid defense for years. The past two years they have not had the ball control where it needs to be, especially this year. The game has changed to a serve receive game with emphasis on serving to get out of system and how well you play OOS. That is something we haven't been good at in general. If the offense is based on ball control and ball control is lacking then OOS play better be improved and it hasn't been. The loss of Aiple looks too much to overcome with the poor first contact.
The strength of schedule was #1 for the entire season and the pieces weren't there to compete at that level. What this does show if you want to be top ten you were 3-24 in sets (0-8 in matches) against the Top 10 programs you played this season. This says that THIS year you were not where you needed to be but how about 2015?
With a change what will the AD do to improve the program? The athletic department better have a plan in place.
Will they make a splash hire? Will they improve facilities? The arena is ugly for VB play and the sterile environment will have to be improved. Will they market the game to students and the community? These are things along with recruitment that will be necessary for a major improvement to occur. Also the NCAA will have to make geography a bit less important for first and second round matchups also. Forget the loss to SMU last year which was a complete surprise but we are regulated to Texas sub regional about 80% of the time so if you aren't top 5 then you are likely out anyway.
What TAMU did in 2015 in volleyball is exactly what Coach G did this year in Soccer. An amazing run at the end of the season to win the SEC title and host as a top seed only to lose a match to a team that shouldn't have had to play in the second round. Will Woodward drop the ax on Coach G if he has a down year playing the toughest schedule with a lot of injuries to key players in the next year or two? I certainly hope not.
And yes I know that Coach G has done more than the Corbelli's over his career.
I want to thank the Corbelli's for their efforts over the past 25 years and wish them well in the future. They ran a solid program in a hard environment and while I didn't always agree with everything they had the best interest of the program at heart. Good Luck to you and if you take on TAMU down the road and kick our ass then good for you.
The strength of schedule was #1 for the entire season and the pieces weren't there to compete at that level. What this does show if you want to be top ten you were 3-24 in sets (0-8 in matches) against the Top 10 programs you played this season. This says that THIS year you were not where you needed to be but how about 2015?
With a change what will the AD do to improve the program? The athletic department better have a plan in place.
Will they make a splash hire? Will they improve facilities? The arena is ugly for VB play and the sterile environment will have to be improved. Will they market the game to students and the community? These are things along with recruitment that will be necessary for a major improvement to occur. Also the NCAA will have to make geography a bit less important for first and second round matchups also. Forget the loss to SMU last year which was a complete surprise but we are regulated to Texas sub regional about 80% of the time so if you aren't top 5 then you are likely out anyway.
What TAMU did in 2015 in volleyball is exactly what Coach G did this year in Soccer. An amazing run at the end of the season to win the SEC title and host as a top seed only to lose a match to a team that shouldn't have had to play in the second round. Will Woodward drop the ax on Coach G if he has a down year playing the toughest schedule with a lot of injuries to key players in the next year or two? I certainly hope not.
And yes I know that Coach G has done more than the Corbelli's over his career.
I want to thank the Corbelli's for their efforts over the past 25 years and wish them well in the future. They ran a solid program in a hard environment and while I didn't always agree with everything they had the best interest of the program at heart. Good Luck to you and if you take on TAMU down the road and kick our ass then good for you.
It's not always going to be easy to recruit to A&M for several reasons, but the Corbellis are both old-school holdovers from the sideout scoring era. After we entered the 2000s, they never had the recruits nor the training/system to consistently compete at the national level. The volleyball program has been an also-ran for a very long time now.
Good to see a change coming. Hopefully will be the shot in the arm the program needs. With the size of the school, the resources theoretically available to the department, and the bazillion high quality club teams in the state, there's really no reason not to expect to be in the top 25 year after year. Even with a few outlier "up" years, the overall trend has been down down down for almost two decades. No reason to keep the old coaches around, unless women's sports are merely a token afterthought at A&M?
Good to see a change coming. Hopefully will be the shot in the arm the program needs. With the size of the school, the resources theoretically available to the department, and the bazillion high quality club teams in the state, there's really no reason not to expect to be in the top 25 year after year. Even with a few outlier "up" years, the overall trend has been down down down for almost two decades. No reason to keep the old coaches around, unless women's sports are merely a token afterthought at A&M?
Thank goodness the era of mediocrity is over. I suggest they hire Jason Mansfield an assistant at Illinois. He coached under John Dunning for a long time at Stanford.
This was a bit of a surprise but needed. It was time. In spite of getting only 4 teams in the tourney this year The SEC did get two of the top four seeds, knocking texas out of the top 4 for the first time in I don't know how many years. Seems like the sips have been seeded top four forever. So it can be done in the SEC.
I also noticed more than a few of the state's volleyball players playing on non-Texas tournament teams. LSU had three and I think Kansas had 6 just to name a couple. Didn't check the others.
The state of Texas only got two teams in, Texas and Baylor. Both these teams had quite a few out of state players on the roster. So I am not sure what is happening to girls volleyball in Texas. Is it not producing enough talent to supply the state's college programs or is it just that the better talent is headed out of state. Is the A&M program just no longer appealing to the state's talent or were the coaching staff not doing a good enough job to identify and recruit the talent?
Would be interesting for a volleyball insider to find out. Obviously a change needed to be made.
I also noticed more than a few of the state's volleyball players playing on non-Texas tournament teams. LSU had three and I think Kansas had 6 just to name a couple. Didn't check the others.
The state of Texas only got two teams in, Texas and Baylor. Both these teams had quite a few out of state players on the roster. So I am not sure what is happening to girls volleyball in Texas. Is it not producing enough talent to supply the state's college programs or is it just that the better talent is headed out of state. Is the A&M program just no longer appealing to the state's talent or were the coaching staff not doing a good enough job to identify and recruit the talent?
Would be interesting for a volleyball insider to find out. Obviously a change needed to be made.
Woodward setting the table for his tenure. I great volleyball hire in the offing.
I'm not sure how easy they can improve the volleyball facilities. The best thing to do is to build a new volleyball only facility. They do have that on the campus master plan (it is south of the baseball fields in that plan), but that is the only thing I have heard about that. I am guessing that is a ways off considering the lack of information about it and that they just completed a $2.3 million renovation to the volleyball practice facilities in Reed in 2016.Wicked Good Ag said:
Will they improve facilities? The arena is ugly for VB play and the sterile environment will have to be improved.
It seems they struggled some to get the track and field stadium funding and we have had a lot of facility renovations. It might be hard to push a new volleyball facility with the big donors right now. I have seen a survey for new renovations to Olsen, so it sounds like baseball will probably be before this. Tennis wants an indoor facility (which is also on the master plans) and I would think that will be before volleyball, but you never know as a lot of the depends on getting a big donor that can start that project.
Maybe I am wrong, but it seems a new volleyball facility is a ways out. Are there facility improvements inside of Reed that you think we can do or are you talking about building a volleyball only facility?
Thank you to the Corbelli's for their many contributions to Texas A&M over many years.
Coaching is key number one. Facilities and support are next. We have not had a top coach in volleyball for a long time and it hurt recruiting. This is business. Either adapt or get beat and passed over. There are many examples in business where large companies failed to adapt and compete and were just mediocre. That is where we have been in a few sports. Sorry but that is the truth.
Well Woodward just got his first coaching hire off to a good start. Hope he can continue the trend with the VB coach.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
SEC placed three of the four in the tourney into the Sweet 16.
Of the teams we faced this year 8 made the tourney and those 8 went a collective 14-1 with seven advancing to the Sweet 16.
Of the teams we faced this year 8 made the tourney and those 8 went a collective 14-1 with seven advancing to the Sweet 16.
Any chance Trevor Johnson becomes the head coach?
The program has a recruiting problem and he is the recruiting coordinator. I don't see how you promote anybody from a staff that was responsible for the pure suckage that was put on the court this year. I would hope woodward sets his sights a lot higher than a current staff member.
I see where it is down to 8 teams Florida and Kentucky are still in it. Texas is too, having barely escaped a tough match with Utah. Had to win the last two games to advance. I guess and hope that Woodard is waiting till the end of the championship tourney to find a coach.
Others are Penn state, Nebraska and Michigan state (big10), plus Stanford and USC (pac12)
Others are Penn state, Nebraska and Michigan state (big10), plus Stanford and USC (pac12)
tk for tu juan said:
Any chance Trevor Johnson becomes the head coach?
Umm no
So it's down to 1 seed penn state, 2 seed Florida, 3 seed Stanford and 5 seed Nebraska.
Nebraska beat 4 seed Kentucky to move on. Penn state, Stanford and Nebraska are mainstays at the top of women's college volleyball. It should narrow it quite a bit as to where Woodard needs to look for a new coach. And not necessarily the head coach at these programs.
Nebraska beat 4 seed Kentucky to move on. Penn state, Stanford and Nebraska are mainstays at the top of women's college volleyball. It should narrow it quite a bit as to where Woodard needs to look for a new coach. And not necessarily the head coach at these programs.
It's tough to crack the top 6 or so programs in this sport. It's like defeating UConn in women's basketball. It's Going to take a top notch coach to make any progress against the elite programs.Skull Session said:Artimus Gordon said:
So it's down to 1 seed penn state, 2 seed Florida, 3 seed Stanford and 5 seed Nebraska.
Nebraska beat 4 seed Kentucky to move on. Penn state, Stanford and Nebraska are mainstays at the top of women's college volleyball. It should narrow it quite a bit as to where Woodard needs to look for a new coach. And not necessarily the head coach at these programs.
I like Jason Mansfield to be the next head coach, he's got a good coaching pedigree. Currently at Illinois, but has 14 years as a Standford Assistant with John Dunning.
So I'm guessing that the search for a new VB coach doesn't carry as much weight as the search for a football coach.
Oh well; so what is the rumour mill spouting out?
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Oh well; so what is the rumour mill spouting out?
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