US vs Poland

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Dre_00
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That was craptastic performance by the US in the first half.

Beasely gave the ball away like he was being paid to do it, Donovan touched the ball maybe twice and had no positive effect, and the forwards were horrible...although I think some of that is because the play of the midfield was such crap (Claudio Reyna, where are you?)

The lone bright spot in my opinion was Onweyu although he might have been out of position on the one real good chance Poland. In general though, his play was awesome. Got back a number of times to put Polish forwards off and in general, was a man-beast.

Also, I think they are playing on a parking lot. I know it's cold but I don't think I've seen a ball bounce so much in my life.
Dre_00
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Oh a few more things...

The left back played Beasely onsides (at least that's what it looked like to me) and I really hope the English players come on in the second half.

McBride in for Twellman
Bocanegra for Berhalter
at 45 minutes

Convey for Beasely
Spector for Lewis
at about 65ish
birdman
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Dempsey scores on header!!!
birdman
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I agree, the only guys that played well in first half were Onweyu and Keller. Most guys were invisible or crappy.

Offsides call was lousy. Cost us a great chance.

McBride won't play this game. He tweaked his hamstring/groin in practice.
Dre_00
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I didn't hear about McBride. That sucks.

USSoccer's matchtracker just crapped out on me. How did we score?
stillmerk
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AG
Have the black armbands been explained?
Dre_00
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Well I got the Bocanegra in for Berhalter right but I did not think Howard would come on in the second although it makes sense. Honestly, from what games I've seen from him in the EPL, it looks as if he has a 5 foot rope attached to his ankle and the left post. I think he's lost a lot of confidence.
Dre_00
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In other matches with World Cup implications that might interest the US.

Italy scores 2 in the first 7 minutes against Germany....2-0 in the 27th.

Czech Republic over Turkey 2-0 in the 71st.
birdman
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About 2 minutes into 2nd half, Cherundulo made a great cross. Twellman went up for header with 2 Poles. Essentially, he flicked it to Dempsey who scored on easy header. I think Twellman was shooting, but it was great play just to get on it.

Black armbands are tribute to son of USA equipment manager who died of leukemia recently.

Still 1-0 at 75 minutes. It is snowing like crazy now, looks like Lambeau Field. Hard to see the ball on television. When ball is in air, I have no idea what's going on. Looks like old black and white film of soccer from 1930s.

Second half substitutions. Howard, Wolff, Bocanegra, Convey, and Mastroeni.

USA's play in second half has been much improved. Pretty much across the board. Play is more organized, patient, etc. Getting the early lead didn't hurt, but we really do look improved.

Visibility is so bad that ref is switching from white ball to bright yellow.
PatAg
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Funny...the second mastroeni comes in for zavagnin we suddenly have center-mid play again, and look dangerous on offense. Convey seems to have benefited greatly from playing with Reading.
PatAg
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Convey outplayed beasley, and pablo outplayed zavagnin. I don't think I've ever seen someone get fouled more in the attacking third than dempsey. We need to do a much better job taking advantage of those oppurtunities, because many of them were piss-poor at best.
Our forwards were pretty horrible today, not many creative runs being made and a pretty bad job of winning/holding balls.
Sooner Born
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Some thoughts on the game...

Maestroni was definitely a difference maker

Cherundolo is terrible with the ball. He kept tripping on the ball and generally making poor touches.

I think the game defeinitely proved that we need Reyna or a Reyna like player in the middle. We look lost without him
PatAg
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You really think cherundolo was horrible with the ball?
Dre_00
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Who did Convey come in for? ESPN didn't even mention it.

Good to hear we are playing better even in those bad conditions. Maybe all the US needed was for me to go back to work.
Dre_00
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Holy crap. Some guy named Umit scored goals in the 89th and 90th to earn a 2-2 draw with Czech Republic.
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Convey came in for Beasley and ESPN2 showed who was coming in and who was coming out. I don't know if you are talking about the internet or tv....I ran home at lunch here on the West Coast and caught almost all the second half..just missed the goal. Good job by Twellman just to get in on the play and keep it alive and excellent hustle by Dempsey to finish it. Man that snow was really coming down. I think it is really an incredible sign by our team to come in and beat an European team on their home turf in these conditions. I also thought Howard did a great job on that free kick..especially keeping control of it in these conditions because if he would have let that slip out there were 3 Polish players there to put it in. I also think he did very good coming out although that one was scary when he came out of the penatly area and had to trap it and get rid of it. Good job though!
Dre_00
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Sorry, meant the internet...they didn't even mention the Convey substitution.

Italy beat Germany 4-0. I'm sure that Klinnsman will be roasted for that. Probably will be a pretty motivated German team come the 22nd.
randy828
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Italy won 4-0? Ouch..Germany will come out ticked off on March 22 ...or do they have any other games before ours?
LondonOllie
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Italy 4:1 Germany

England 2:1 Uruguay

Mexico 1:0 Ghana

Spain 3:2 Ivory Coast

England 2:1 Uruguay

Argentina 2:3 Croatia

Poland 0:1 U.S.A

Russia 0:1 Brazil

Turkey 2:2 Czech Rep

Rep Ireland 3:0 Sweden

France 1:2 Slovakia

Scotland 1:3 Switzerland

Holland 1:0 Ecuador

Portugal 3:0 Saudia Arabia

South Korea 1: 0 Angola

Iran 3 : 2 Costa Rica

Macedonia 0 : 1 Bulgaria

Greece 2 : 0 Kazakhstan

Senegal 2 : 1 Norway

Tunisia 0 : 1 Serbia & Montenegro

Israel 0 : 2 Denmark

Luxembourg 0 : 2 Belgium

Austria 0 : 2 Canada

Netherlands 1 : 0 Ecuador

Guatemala P - P Peru

Northern Ireland 1 : 0 Estonia

Wales 0 : 0 Paraguay

Venezuela 1 : 1 Colombia

Mexico 1 : 0 Ghana

CadeLBB
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dubag,

post a little about your experience at the game. i'm sure all would enjoy.
hmiles619
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dang, mexico beat ghana twice
randy828
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He is probably still thawing out! I loved how the ref did not give any extra time in that second half..the minute it hit 90...game over!!
randy828
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Hey..I just had to get my 500th on a soccer thread! A

Gig'em!

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What is it?
It's an interrogative form of sentence, used to test knowledge. But that's not important right now."


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The Beer Snob
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I also noticed that BOTH the Netherlands and Holland beat Ecuador.
dubag
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Here's a few thoughts from being at the game on some things I didn't think would really translate to TV well and on the game in general. FYI, I got to the game with about 15 minutes left in the first half, so I can only give my synopsis from there.

First, the players:

Our defense played very well. I liked what I saw from everyone, but Onyewu scares me a bit. The end result was good in that he shut down the Polish attackers, but it seems like he gets frustrated when he's getting shielded off the ball and tries to go right through the attacker which leads to a lot of fouls. Also, I now have a lot more faith in Lewis as a LB.

Midfield: It looked like our outside midfielders were pinching in a lot and weren't really using the width of the field that well. That might have been in an effort to support a quick passing ground game, but, to me, there looked to be a lot of space on the wings that wasn't taken advantage of. Having said that, I thought Dempsey played well, he dissappeared at times, but his passing, dribbling ability and ability to be in the right place at the right time puts him as a starter on my list. Beasley didn't have a good game, but it looked like the Polish team knew what his game was all about and took his speed away from him. I didn't see much of Zavagnin, but he was making bad passes, as usual, and the Polish guys behind me were laughing there asses off about him being out there. Mastro did OK, but he was caught too far forward a few times and the Polish took advantage of that. Donovan, I thought played really well. There were a lot of times in the second half when he got the ball and you were expecting him to make an easy pass and he makes the pass that no one in the stadium sees but him to a wide open player or a player streaking behind a defender. That's one of the things I didn't think would really translate to TV. I thought his second half was excellent and a model of what you want out of a midfielder that is distributing the ball for the team and getting into attack. I don't know how we're going to do it, but I'd like to see Convey starting. I think he did benefit from running at tired defenders, but he was electrifying doing it. He might be the supersub for the World Cup.

The forwards didn't really do well, but I think you have to credit the Polish defense for that. They were very organized in the back and shut down almost everything. I'd say their defense tonight was about equal to ours.

Now for the experience: We got to the game late, because we thought we'd eat before the game at Ramstein at one of the only Chili's in Europe and that took way too long. Trust me, I was ready to get out of there without eating, but my pregnant wife was with me and we had to feed Grayson so he'll be strong enough to play in a game like this one day. After that there was a shuttle to the game from the base, so we headed over there and left with a packed bus. The stadium blocked the wind and snow and was warm enough, so that wasn't really a problem. The stadium really went nuts when the snow started to fall. It was like somebody dropping buckets of snow on the field. The weather report said K-town got 5 inches of snow over 2 hours. I was a little dissappointed with the crowd with the attendance only being 13,000, but it was probably 75/25 pro-US, which was very cool to see in a venue outside of the country. After the game we really didn't stick around that long and drove straight home in a ton of snow. What sucks is that the Germans don't clear the roads that well, so we drove about 25-45 mph most of the way home and made the drive, which is usually a little over an hour, two and a half hours of pure terror. Damn I hate driving in that much snow. Anyways, that was it, I had a very good time, but what made it better was that I took my wife to her first game(she's not a sports fan at all) and she really enjoyed it, not just the atmosphere, she got so excited that she jumped out of her seat a few times when our players were making some nice runs. Hopefully, in June/July, when I'm watching the World Cup all day for a month straight she won't want me to get off the couch and will sit down with me for a few games.
AgGermany
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http://harrisusapoland.shutterfly.com/action/?a=2AbN2jNw3bsXMg¬ag=1

Here are some pics from the game and the family!

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[This message has been edited by AgGermany (edited 3/3/2006 8:05a).]
AgGermany
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dubag, ya wanna go to Dortmund in a couple of weeks?

Germans reeling from 4-1 loss to Italy.
aggiebird02
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A win is a win.

Now BTHO Germany!!
Stanco
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I was there - great atmosphere. We were right behind the goal when Dempsey scored.

Thought the US played a bad first half. Second half was better, but the weather was a factor for misplayed touches.

Tschuss
dubag
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AgGermany, that's actually the game I had tickets to but my wife and I found out we needed to go back to the US from this week until March 31st, so I had to sell my tickets and rush to by tickets for the US/Poland game. I appreciate the offer though.
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