Thanks for the extra $25 to donate platelets today. It was enough extra to get me to come in.

Watch out for hematoma

In college I'd sell at dci and then walk right next and give the money to charlie Mac. Still best cheeseburger I've ever had.

It is a fine line when discussing blood/blood products for human transfusion.

There are specific guidelines provided by the fda as what constitutes monetary payment vs donation incentives.

Most blood centers that are collecting blood for direct transfusion need small incentives to motivate donors to cross their threshold. We provide reward points that can be redeemed for items like shirts, collectibles, mugs or gift cards. The redemption rate of points to dollars is part of an equation to ensure the monetary incentive doesn't overly outweigh the altruism of donors.
Part of the safety net to ensure a safe blood supply is to ensure that any incentives don't outweigh the necessity for honesty on the health questionnaire.

Plasma centers (CSL, Biopharm, etc) are compensated centers that provide monetary payment for the plasma they receive. Sometimes paying 800$1000 per month for qualified providers. These collections are then resold to pharmaceutical companies to produce IVIG or other human plasma derived drugs. Unfortunately, the "donation" messaging is overly marketed by these for profit companies and dilutes the donor base and altruistic donor pool available for non profit blood centers.

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Is it really donating if you're getting paid?

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My wife said the same thing

I sold my share of plasma back in the day when I was running low on $$$. Helped me pay a few bills and I got free juice and cookies.

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I sold my share of plasma back in the day when I was running low on $$$. Helped me pay a few bills and I got free juice and cookies.

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I would do plasma on Thursdays or fridays and have money for $4 pitchers

Nothing wrong with it. I did the same, just a different avenue thsn blood donation.

The part that is frustrating is thUS provides over 70% of the plasma used for IVIG… a lot of countries (EU) don't allow for compensated plasma collection… but they do allow the use of the final product. This puts America in a bind due to to more young and healthy citizens going the compensation plasma model to the neglect of the blood transfusion needs for direct patient care.

So in my case, it's a time thing. From walking in to walking out, it was three hours of my time.

They did have Nutter Butter Minis though.

If the stab is inaccurate, is the procedure considered to be in vain or not in vein?

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If the stab is inaccurate, is the procedure considered to be in vain or not in vein?

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Ya. I'm stealing that one for our training team.

King of the Dairy Queen said:

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In college I'd sell at dci and then walk right next and give the money to charlie Mac. Still best cheeseburger I've ever had.

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His meatloaf sandwiches were unbelievable on jalapeno bread.

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SoulSlaveAG2005 said:

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IIIHorn said:

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If the stab is inaccurate, is the procedure considered to be in vain or not in vein?

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Ya. I'm stealing that one for our training team.

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Well, at least the training won't be pointless.

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He's got this one in the bag.

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IIIHorn said:

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SoulSlaveAG2005 said:

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IIIHorn said:

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If the stab is inaccurate, is the procedure considered to be in vain or not in vein?

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Ya. I'm stealing that one for our training team.

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Well, at least the training won't be pointless.

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He's got this one in the bag.

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Ivie Carter would be a great username and could possibly be the name the of the owner of the blood care facility.

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SoulSlaveAG2005 said:

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IIIHorn said:

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If the stab is inaccurate, is the procedure considered to be in vain or not in vein?

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Ya. I'm stealing that one for our training team.

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Well, at least the training won't be pointless.

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Guys, quit needling him.

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IIIHorn said:

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SoulSlaveAG2005 said:

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IIIHorn said:

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If the stab is inaccurate, is the procedure considered to be in vain or not in vein?

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Ya. I'm stealing that one for our training team.

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Well, at least the training won't be pointless.

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Guys, quit needling him.

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Welcome to the derail of your own thread.

Just cashed in $100 of rewards.

If you were paid $25, was your blood really a donation?

The new sweatshirts are pretty awesome too.

Did double platelets and plasma yesterday since no workouts today due to ice.

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If you were paid $25, was your blood really a donation?

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Oh…negative

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IIIHorn said:

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If you were paid $25, was your blood really a donation?

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Oh…negative

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You get an A+ for this one.

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Wolfpac 08 said:

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IIIHorn said:

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If you were paid $25, was your blood really a donation?

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Oh…negative

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You get an A+ for this one.

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Indeed - very punny.

And $75 for double platelets and plasma. AND the sweatshirt AND Nutter Butter cookies!

Boo yah!

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IIIHorn said:

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Wolfpac 08 said:

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IIIHorn said:

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If you were paid $25, was your blood really a donation?

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Oh…negative

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You get an A+ for this one.

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Indeed - very punny.

And $75 for double platelets and plasma. AND the sweatshirt AND Nutter Butter cookies!

Boo yah!

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So, not a donation.

The blood donation thing is a racket. You give away your product for free. Red Cross makes a little money off of it selling it to hospitals. Hospitals make a fortune off of selling it back to you.

I wish Red Cross would do something like donate 10 times and get one pint of blood for free. You may never have to use it, but if you did, you are saving yourself.

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The new sweatshirts are pretty awesome too.

Did double platelets and plasma yesterday since no workouts today due to ice.

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Glad you like it. Came in handy past few days. Thanks for being a donor.

I can totally understand where you are coming from.

But consider this…you are B-, and you are negative for Cytomegalo virus. You get a call at 1 pm during the week and it's the local Children's Hospital asking you to donate for a child that needs a double unit of your platelets…which probably means they have cancer or some serious issue (a double platelet is a three hour process). B negative is the second rarest blood type, and you are negative for a common virus that can be devastating for a child. What do you do? Do you do it or do you negotiate a price?

It was a no brainer for me. Don't know if the child survived, but I donated and gladly took the t-shirt home.

I'd do it again, and again, and again.

Sometimes, the situation, even being anonymous, transcends material compensation (though I gladly chose the long-sleeved t-shirt).

But that's just me.

Still a donation. Providing a small token item and reward points that can be redeemed are not a considered payment. Just a small thank you on behalf of transfusion dependent patients.

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The blood donation thing is a racket. You give away your product for free. Red Cross makes a little money off of it selling it to hospitals. Hospitals make a fortune off of selling it back to you.

I wish Red Cross would do something like donate 10 times and get one pint of blood for free. You may never have to use it, but if you did, you are saving yourself.

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Sorry you feel that way. Most blood centers operate at very slim margins and must meet strict operational regulations. There is no such thing as a free lunch, and the cost to ensure blood is safe and available when someone needs it 24/7/365 comes at significant cost.

We budget and typically run a negative balance on our core lines (red cells, platelets and plasma), and we are only able to make up our slim operating margin by offering specialty services and testing to meet patient needs.

Hospitals also have to maintain strict inventory and compliance regulations before transfusing to ensure patient safety along with training and administration costs. It only gets more expensive as new treatments are developed to help fight disease and trauma.

We had the best health care in the world. And it all comes at a price.

Right now, due to weather we have had to cancel and close for 5 days, costing over 2k units in available inventory.

It will take us a couple weeks to recover but in the meantime, I lose sleep each night wondering and hoping we aren't short when a patient needs it.

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I can totally understand where you are coming from.

But consider this…you are B-, and you are negative for Cytomegalo virus. You get a call at 1 pm during the week and it's the local Children's Hospital asking you to donate for a child that needs a double unit of your platelets…which probably means they have cancer or some serious issue (a double platelet is a three hour process). B negative is the second rarest blood type, and you are negative for a common virus that can be devastating for a child. What do you do? Do you do it or do you negotiate a price?

It was a no brainer for me. Don't know if the child survived, but I donated and gladly took the t-shirt home.

I'd do it again, and again, and again.

But that's just me.

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Thanks Toddy.