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Kate Beckett said:

I would love an animated What If…? like Marvel did.

Something like Infinities would be great.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_Infinities
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Kate Beckett said:

I would love an animated What If…? like Marvel did.
I've already written about 75 plot lines for it

Really they could just animate the incredible Infinities comic books from 20 years ago and roll with that.

Just a taste or two without context.











And the one so popular they made it a toy. Redeemed in-suit Vader.

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It's hardly anything, but this is from a larger D23 Brazil Hulu/Disney+ 2025 preview...

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Hardly anything?????

TIE INTERCEPTOR!!!!!!!!!!
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Screens from Disney's sizzle reel for 2025







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Some Lucasfilm directors are aware of what others are working on while others are not
Guess they learned nothing from the sequels development.
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Here's the entire article. It's a pretty interesting read...

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Star Wars movie development has been under scrutiny for several years with Lucasfilm head Kathleen Kennedy taking fire for not developing meaningful characters beyond those first created by Lucas prior to the sale to Disney in 2012 for $4 billion. And if the franchise looks forward in its canon timeline, all those beloved characters Luke, Leia, Vader, Obi-Wan, Yoda and Han are dead or had their storylines wrapped in prequels or spinoffs. Rey, created in the post-Lucas era, is arguably the only entity with currency on the big screen now. "The closet is a little bare," says another source
If only someone (i.e. the entire fanbase) had been yelling this at Disney for years.
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That falls in line with this quote as well...

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Another source familiar with the process is more business-minded, noting, "Star Wars is a nostalgia-based enterprise and they are running out of ways to create nostalgia."

That's LITERALLY the job of these studio/filmmakers. To create NEW nostalgia for audiences a generation from now, or else we risk the well running dry. To take chances on NEW characters, NEW stories, NEW ideas, etc, even if in a familiar world/franchise. And if you're adverse to taking that risk, then get the **** out of this business. I'm so sick of modern Hollywood only wanting "sure things," which is completely antithetical to art/storytelling.
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have rey get pregnant from Luke's force ghost because it is like poetry, and it rhymes!!!!!!
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Daisy Ridley needs to start acting like she gives a **** about Star Wars if this is the future of the franchise.
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What does that mean? She seems super enthusiastic about the franchise and its future in just about every interview she gives.
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TCTTS said:

That falls in line with this quote as well...

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Another source familiar with the process is more business-minded, noting, "Star Wars is a nostalgia-based enterprise and they are running out of ways to create nostalgia."

That's LITERALLY the job of these studio/filmmakers. To create NEW nostalgia for audiences a generation from now, or else we risk the well running dry. To take chances on NEW characters, NEW stories, NEW ideas, etc, even if in a familiar world/franchise. And if you're adverse to taking that risk, then get the **** out of this business. I'm so sick of modern Hollywood only wanting "sure things," which is completely antithetical to art/storytelling.
I started to type a long post about that, too. The people who watch SW for nostalgia ain't gonna be around forever. Do you just stop making SW bc they died?
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If this whole thing is riding on Rey, then that ain't good. She does nothing for me as a character but I'm also passionate about my disdain for the ST.

I will watch any new movie that comes out regardless (less so on the shows depending on what it is), but they need to start establishing a bench.
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redline248 said:


Do you just stop making SW bc they died?
star wars is the only major IP that has not rebooted.

Star Trek - check.
Harry Potter - in progress
James Bond - multiple reboots
DC overall - IP
Batman - multiple
Superman - multiple
planet of ape - check
Godzilla - check
BSG - done, another IP
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I've been advocating for an eventual reboot for years. Not now, but at some point in the not-incredibly-distant future. Now *is* the perfect time, however, to potentially take a break, temporarily close up shop, etc. Then, in, say, 2030 or so, do a full-on reboot of the Skywalker Saga, across film and TV. But one that isn't beholden to the same structure as before. Same primary characters and major events, of course, but a reboot that has the freedom to chart new stories between major events that we never saw prior, or to follow new side characters who are integral to the wars, but operate in other parts of the galaxy. Also, say one movie ends with Obi-Wan's death, then take an entire follow-up movie, Top Gun style, to show Luke training with Red Squadron, culminating in their attack on the Death Star. Things like that where we can really dig in and elongate certain aspects that we brushed over prior. Either way, start with Anakin's birth and end with Luke's death, then figure out the best structure (how many movies vs how many shows) for telling the saga over that 100-year period or however long it is. And then tell that 100-year story over 10-20 years in our time.
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All of this, assuming nothing new sticks, which is what I'd of course advocate for first and foremost.
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C@LAg said:

redline248 said:


Do you just stop making SW bc they died?
star wars is the only major IP that has not rebooted.
Really?

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BenTheGoodAg said:



Really?


insert talk to the hand emoji.

there was no reboot for the movie series. the prequels happened then the sequels.

99.9% of the planet have no clue about any of the books or comics garbage, the old legends or the current product that has quickly gone to garbage as well.



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There were plenty of people disappointed when Disney abandoned all the lore. Not all of it was good, but some was great. And not all of it was post-OT. Plenty from before prequels, in between PT & OT.

Sure, it's a soft reboot, but it was still a big deal to a lot of people at the time. KOTOR, Shadows of the Empire, the Zahn Trilogy were all pretty well loved by the fanbase.
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C@LAg said:

BenTheGoodAg said:



Really?


insert talk to the hand emoji.

there was no reboot for the movie series. the prequels happened then the sequels.

99.9% of the planet have no clue about any of the books or comics garbage, the old legends or the current product that has quickly gone to garbage as well.




That is a very broad hand to call the books and comics garbage. Zahn trilogy and the Dark Empire comics kept Star Wars relevant for the bulk if the 90s and an enormous amount of content from lots of what is universally hailed as the best of the saga in the last decade comes straight from the eu
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I actually love Rey the character & bought in. I also really liked most of the ST too. Excited about what they bring out.
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BenTheGoodAg said:

C@LAg said:

redline248 said:


Do you just stop making SW bc they died?
star wars is the only major IP that has not rebooted.
Really?


should have just been bold.
Recast all the main characters and make this movie series instead of 7-9
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maroon man said:

I actually love Rey the character & bought in. I also really liked most of the ST too. Excited about what they bring out.
Your're on an island.

The young peeps don't care. At all. Gen X can't hold this thing. No one really cares about the ST or it's characters and that includes Rey. No one.

Sorry, not trying to be a dick but this is a terrible choice by Disney.

If they really want to bring back SW then put out movies and series about bloody war between the rebels and the Empire and the aftermath. That gets the boys back in. That is 100% what Disney needs to restart SW. Boys are checked out. Reality. They don't care at all.

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How many times are you going to post this exact same sentiment, based on nothing more than the opinions of your kids and their circle of friends? This has to be like the 20th time you've said this, as if it's some irrefutable fact, when it's nothing more than a subjective opinion, based on an incredibly limited sample size.

I have no doubt that kids today aren't as in to Star Wars as generations past. Nor am I saying that boys would line up to see Rey again. But going forward, there absolutely IS a sizable audience out there for Rey-centric Star Wars content. It doesn't have to be one or the other. Disney/Lucasfilm can make another Rey movie or two and ALSO make "bloody war" Star Wars movies for boys. The franchise can be multiple things to multiple people. It doesn't have to be just for boys. The trick is finding the right balance between the two.

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Also, a Rey movie doesn't automatically = a feminist Star Wars chick flick. Rey taking on an Obi-Wan-type mentor role, as has been reported, could totally be in a movie or trilogy or whatever that features a young male lead. In fact, at this point I would be shocked if they do yet another SW trilogy focused on a young female lead.

As I've said before, I would rather the powers-that-be tell a completely new story, a hundred years or so after the sequel trilogy, void of any characters we've seen prior. In this day and age, though, where IP and familiarity rule, that's probably not going to happen. But within that reality, with Rey in a limited-ish mentor role, I still think they can do something that's fresh and exciting that gets boys back into the franchise.
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TCTTS said:

I've been advocating for an eventual reboot for years. Not now, but at some point in the not-incredibly-distant future. Now *is* the perfect time, however, to potentially take a break, temporarily close up shop, etc. Then, in, say, 2030 or so, do a full-on reboot of the Skywalker Saga, across film and TV. But one that isn't beholden to the same structure as before. Same primary characters and major events, of course, but a reboot that has the freedom to chart new stories between major events that we never saw prior, or to follow new side characters who are integral to the wars, but operate in other parts of the galaxy. Also, say one movie ends with Obi-Wan's death, then take an entire follow-up movie, Top Gun style, to show Luke training with Red Squadron, culminating in their attack on the Death Star. Things like that where we can really dig in and elongate certain aspects that we brushed over prior. Either way, start with Anakin's birth and end with Luke's death, then figure out the best structure (how many movies vs how many shows) for telling the saga over that 100-year period or however long it is. And then tell that 100-year story over 10-20 years in our time.
bring on the Quentin Tarantino return from retirement and Star Wars reboot of 2030!!!
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Mace Windu gonna be absolute fire.
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Posting things as if they are facts based on input from living in some kind of bubble?

Why I never…
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Urban Ag said:

maroon man said:

I actually love Rey the character & bought in. I also really liked most of the ST too. Excited about what they bring out.
Your're on an island.

The young peeps don't care. At all. Gen X can't hold this thing. No one really cares about the ST or it's characters and that includes Rey. No one.

Sorry, not trying to be a dick but this is a terrible choice by Disney.

If they really want to bring back SW then put out movies and series about bloody war between the rebels and the Empire and the aftermath. That gets the boys back in. That is 100% what Disney needs to restart SW. Boys are checked out. Reality. They don't care at all.


No one?
I have an immediate circle of at least 8-10 people including four girls and two boys between the ages of 12-21, who LOVE those movies, love Rey, love Kylo, love BB-8, etc.

And I'm going to take the wild guess that they aren't the lone young people in the world that do. I'm fine with the debates, but this all-encompassing opinion that everyone dislikes the sequels just makes you look like a person on twitter yelling that everything is either the best or the worst.
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YNWA_AG said:


Holy eff the incompetence in that company right now

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For those suggesting a reboot, what exactly does that mean? If that means new actors portraying Luke, Leia and Han at the characters' age when we first met them (i.e., not younger/older versions of the characters), then nope. That should NEVER happen. If we mean an all new Star Wars with absolutely no characters that we have seen before, set either before the PT or after the ST, then absolutely yes. Which I am thinking the movie that the Logan/Dial of Destiny director is making would fall into that category.

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We've already seen what can happen with "other" content with Rogue One and Andor. Characters no one had heard of, a story that had been vaguely referenced, and it's been the best Star Wars in decades.

For all its flaws The Acolyte had the right idea, explore areas and time periods in this massive galaxy that we've never touched on before; for some reason we keep going back to this obscure desert planet.

The SW animated series have shown us that there are so many interesting, compelling characters and new places that stories can be built around, let's find a way to create some of those in live action.

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If the go the route of Rey serving as a mentor to a new Jedi, they should make it a forbidden love where she falls for her student and then leans into the gray moral area in order to save them from some peril.

Hmm, did I just reboot Anakin?
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