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They actually killed a Kylo Ren Clone while the real kylo ren was filming undercover boss.
Good Lord, this is somehow even worse.
I legitimately cannot believe that both Steven Soderbergh AND David Fincher actively wanted to make post-Episode-IX Star Wars movies and Disney somehow turned them down.
Just utter ****ing incompetence.
I legitimately cannot believe that both Steven Soderbergh AND David Fincher actively wanted to make post-Episode-IX Star Wars movies and Disney somehow turned them down.
Just utter ****ing incompetence.
STAR WARS: Steven Soderbergh isn’t the ONLY big director to have developed a top-secret project at Lucasfilm. Remember the guy they flirted with for EPISODES VII and IX? Yeah, they went back to him after the trilogy...https://t.co/5gF4jcHZ8S
— Jeff Sneider (@TheInSneider) October 23, 2025
David Fincher Was Also Developing a ‘Star Wars’ Movie Post-‘Rise of Skywalker’ That Ultimately Fell Through #StarWars https://t.co/YeQ6lmctfc
— SWNN (@StarWarsNewsNet) October 23, 2025
David Fincher was in talks with Disney to direct a 'STAR WARS' movie set after 'THE RISE OF SKYWALKER'
— ScreenTime (@screentime) October 23, 2025
It would've followed an unknown character from the sequel trilogy
The project was separate to Adam Driver's Ben Solo pitch
(via: @TheInSneider) pic.twitter.com/uAyDvVcBCm
Star Wars fans paid for a plane to fly over Disney Studios with a banner reading “Save The Hunt for Ben Solo”
— Star Wars Holocron (@sw_holocron) October 23, 2025
📸: @Collider pic.twitter.com/MhuzNVtwdL
JFC. For anyone on the fence about Kennedy, you shouldn't be after discovering this.
It's a bit more complicated than that, though.
Iger is the one who wouldn't greenlight the Ben Solo movie, despite Kennedy wanting to make it, so I do give her credit there.
But yeah, the Fincher deal fell through because he wanted final cut and Lucasfilm simply doesn't give final cut to directors, though Kennedy should have obviously made an exception.
I'm no Kennedy defender, but I've been saying for years that Iger has also been a massive problem all along. It was his "original sin" of forcing The Force Awakens to release in 2015, when both Abrams and Kennedy wanted to push/said they needed more time to develop it. It was Iger who insisted on a new saga movie every two years from then on out, instead of the traditional three, thereby rushing all the other productions. And it was Iger who saturated the hell out of both Star Wars and Marvel by insisting on far too much Disney+ content for both.
Good thing is Kennedy is finally leaving in early 2026 and Iger is finally leaving in late 2026. Granted, their fingerprints will still be all over the franchise for years to come, but at least the ship can potentially start to be righted in their absence.
Iger is the one who wouldn't greenlight the Ben Solo movie, despite Kennedy wanting to make it, so I do give her credit there.
But yeah, the Fincher deal fell through because he wanted final cut and Lucasfilm simply doesn't give final cut to directors, though Kennedy should have obviously made an exception.
I'm no Kennedy defender, but I've been saying for years that Iger has also been a massive problem all along. It was his "original sin" of forcing The Force Awakens to release in 2015, when both Abrams and Kennedy wanted to push/said they needed more time to develop it. It was Iger who insisted on a new saga movie every two years from then on out, instead of the traditional three, thereby rushing all the other productions. And it was Iger who saturated the hell out of both Star Wars and Marvel by insisting on far too much Disney+ content for both.
Good thing is Kennedy is finally leaving in early 2026 and Iger is finally leaving in late 2026. Granted, their fingerprints will still be all over the franchise for years to come, but at least the ship can potentially start to be righted in their absence.
Damn him as well!
Not a lot of info Josh D'Amaro and I wonder what kind of vision he'd have (if named as CEO) for the movie franchises, since he'll have come up the parks and attractions side of Disney as a CFO type.
This is Fran-level incompetence. The only thing missing is a secret newsletter.
Someone like Fincher or Soderbergh wants to make a Star Wars movie? You sign them up on the spot. But what this tells me is Disney would tell the likes of Spielberg, Nolan, DV, and even a Scorsese no thanks.
Someone like Fincher or Soderbergh wants to make a Star Wars movie? You sign them up on the spot. But what this tells me is Disney would tell the likes of Spielberg, Nolan, DV, and even a Scorsese no thanks.
YouBet said:
Damn him as well!
My thoughts (note: this is just spitballing an idea, and does not represent a fully formed and matured opinion, just a topic for exploration and discussion)
... but PERHAPS nobody really wants a Ben Solo Movie, they just want to continue to gripe that the Sequels were so mismanaged (facts). This is a continuation of that out of justified spite for the very poor decisions that were made in the recent past (TLJ, TroS, Acolyte, etc).
People are mad about what could have been with these news stories, but the same people would also more likely than not been disappointed in the final product. Some want to be excited that things are being produced and live the in the fantasy of excitement at the potential of the movies (if that makes sense).
Maybe it's Battered Star Wars Fan Syndrome on my part - it definitely feels the same as being excited for the Aggies each season (for good reasons many times) only to be baffled by the "execution". (Except this year ... this 2025 team feels different!)
Well, I will just say that I don't really appreciate you critiquing my irrational feelings towards this franchise.
First of all, this so called "sequel trilogy" never happened. Fact.
B. Even if it had happened, Kylo Ren and his band of murderous dark force users not actually being in any of these mythical films after showing a clip of them and then never mentioning them again for any other film and then actually committing patricide against Han Solo is such an egregious affront to fandom that it would drive me to insanity, if these films actually existed.
3, my final memory of Leia avoiding space vacuum death as a space witch while only having sensitivity to the force and zero Jedi training was offensive to my intellect when I read about someone on here wanting that in a new Star Wars film that thankfully wasn't made.
Last....Poe Dameron's statement "somehow, Palpatine returned" in the context of the ridiculous, unconnected story arc of the ST is both simultaneously absurd while also causing me incredulity that he was somehow confused by it considering the entirety of the possibly filmed prequel trilogy was based on the underlying premise of cloning technology. It's enough to make one schizophrenic, if these films even existed.
I look forward to the first Star Wars film made that takes place chronologically after Return of the Jedi. That looks to be this film with Gosling who I like as an actor. I've waited since 1983 for this.
First of all, this so called "sequel trilogy" never happened. Fact.
B. Even if it had happened, Kylo Ren and his band of murderous dark force users not actually being in any of these mythical films after showing a clip of them and then never mentioning them again for any other film and then actually committing patricide against Han Solo is such an egregious affront to fandom that it would drive me to insanity, if these films actually existed.
3, my final memory of Leia avoiding space vacuum death as a space witch while only having sensitivity to the force and zero Jedi training was offensive to my intellect when I read about someone on here wanting that in a new Star Wars film that thankfully wasn't made.
Last....Poe Dameron's statement "somehow, Palpatine returned" in the context of the ridiculous, unconnected story arc of the ST is both simultaneously absurd while also causing me incredulity that he was somehow confused by it considering the entirety of the possibly filmed prequel trilogy was based on the underlying premise of cloning technology. It's enough to make one schizophrenic, if these films even existed.
I look forward to the first Star Wars film made that takes place chronologically after Return of the Jedi. That looks to be this film with Gosling who I like as an actor. I've waited since 1983 for this.
Thanks for the laugh
I AM looking forward to the Starfighter Movie (woe is me!) and I completely agree on Gosling; one of my favorite actors right now.
I AM looking forward to the Starfighter Movie (woe is me!) and I completely agree on Gosling; one of my favorite actors right now.
With all their recent misses, I really did enjoy Skeleton Crew and would love to see them pursue more of those types of shows.
There's such a big world to explore that we don't need to keep coming back to focus on the same half dozen characters. The Acolyte had the beginnings of an interesting idea along the same lines but…yeah. Starfighter looks to be taking this approach as well, fingers crossed.
And I will continue to bang the drum that a Jedi Academy type series would print money.
There's such a big world to explore that we don't need to keep coming back to focus on the same half dozen characters. The Acolyte had the beginnings of an interesting idea along the same lines but…yeah. Starfighter looks to be taking this approach as well, fingers crossed.
And I will continue to bang the drum that a Jedi Academy type series would print money.
It's only what the people want. But we can't give people what they wantQuote:
And I will continue to bang the drum that a Jedi Academy type series would print money
here's a screenshot btw for those asking pic.twitter.com/1JmkfgBOQx
— indi (is also on bluesky) (@ghostie_77) October 24, 2025
I can't vouch for the legitimacy of this reddit post, but it seems like the real deal...
just discovered that there was a leak from someone involved in the restoration team revealing that Disney is, indeed, restoring the theatrical cuts of the original Star Wars trilogy! complete with screenshots! https://t.co/71ts7Cskth
— Corey Atad (@CoreyAtad) October 24, 2025
oh my god bruh pic.twitter.com/mKTsIJzQWr
— sage (@spherection) October 24, 2025
Lots of rumblings of a NEW restoration of STAR WARS coming in 2027 for the 50th anniversary release on April 27 in theaters and IMAX. If so, EMPIRE and JEDI will surely follow.
— Adam Hlaváč (@adamhlavac) October 24, 2025
PLEASE LET THIS BE REAL! pic.twitter.com/KqttHKR9Nh
Two questions:
1. Isn't that upper right shot of the X-Wings from the later, altered version and not the original? I should know this but I actually haven't seen the theatrical versions in so long I don't remember. I might be thinking of another X-Wing shot from another angle as they come around a planet now that I think about it...
2. Is there an actual noticeable difference in PQ when old film movies get the 4K treatment? Or do we just glorify that and run with it as some kind of technical improvement when you really can't tell?
1. Isn't that upper right shot of the X-Wings from the later, altered version and not the original? I should know this but I actually haven't seen the theatrical versions in so long I don't remember. I might be thinking of another X-Wing shot from another angle as they come around a planet now that I think about it...
2. Is there an actual noticeable difference in PQ when old film movies get the 4K treatment? Or do we just glorify that and run with it as some kind of technical improvement when you really can't tell?
Supposedly, because Lucasfilm keeps the original film sealed up so well they can always upscale to good, or better, quality.
YouBet said:
Two questions:
1. Isn't that upper right shot of the X-Wings from the later, altered version and not the original? I should know this but I actually haven't seen the theatrical versions in so long I don't remember. I might be thinking of another X-Wing shot from another angle as they come around a planet now that I think about it...
2. Is there an actual noticeable difference in PQ when old film movies get the 4K treatment? Or do we just glorify that and run with it as some kind of technical improvement when you really can't tell?
That X-Wing shot looks like original physical miniatures.
Cinco Ranch Aggie said:YouBet said:
Two questions:
1. Isn't that upper right shot of the X-Wings from the later, altered version and not the original? I should know this but I actually haven't seen the theatrical versions in so long I don't remember. I might be thinking of another X-Wing shot from another angle as they come around a planet now that I think about it...
2. Is there an actual noticeable difference in PQ when old film movies get the 4K treatment? Or do we just glorify that and run with it as some kind of technical improvement when you really can't tell?
That X-Wing shot looks like original physical miniatures.
Yeah, it does.
YouBet said:
Two questions:
1. Isn't that upper right shot of the X-Wings from the later, altered version and not the original? I should know this but I actually haven't seen the theatrical versions in so long I don't remember. I might be thinking of another X-Wing shot from another angle as they come around a planet now that I think about it...
2. Is there an actual noticeable difference in PQ when old film movies get the 4K treatment? Or do we just glorify that and run with it as some kind of technical improvement when you really can't tell?
I thought the same thing, but the shot I know is from Special Editions is from the front, not the back (below). Granted, the one from behind could be from the Special Editions as well, but it also looks like old school miniatures, especially around the edges of the models. Same as you, I haven't seen the original version in forever (not since I was a little kid), so I'm not 100% sure.
This shot is what I was thinking of. This was not original.
Yeah, I'm guessing that the shot from the front (Special Editions) replaced the shot from the back (original version).
If that one tweet is right, come April 2027, watching the original-but-remastered version of Star Wars in IMAX could revitalize the franchise in and of itself. That would be a religious experience.
‘The Hunt For Ben Solo’: Steven Soderbergh & Adam Driver’s Secret ‘Star Wars’ Movie Was Fully Greenlit & Ready To Go Before Disney Pulled The Plug [Exclusive] https://t.co/RFZuVw86ud pic.twitter.com/KaM0IbPXQ6
— The Playlist (@ThePlaylistNews) October 24, 2025
New details on ‘THE HUNT FOR BEN SOLO’
— Cosmic Marvel (@cosmic_marvel) October 24, 2025
• Rebecca Blunt was the screenwriter.
• Scott Z. Burns was paid more than any other screenwriter in Lucasfilm history to complete the script.
• Kathleen Kennedy, Dave Filoni and Carrie Beck were directly involved throughout… pic.twitter.com/6KXr7o1ktl
- this was the most expensive lfl script ever, with burns receiving $3M+
— lianna 🦢 (@hauntxmexthen) October 24, 2025
- the film was ready to film, with a completed script and budget
-adam driver and soderbergh were not paid a thing
- ben solo’s resurrection was “clear and creatively sound”
oh my god?#TheHuntForBenSolo https://t.co/CBrc2ZmP5T
The miniatures were fitted with lights for the engines. These lights were never consistent in brightness and even in the red color. This is evident in the tweet photo. The special editions largely fixed this, although there are still some original shots that look just as they did in 1977.
I guess I have to publicly apologize to Kathleen Kennedy for this one.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
What do you want to bet Disney ran some numbers on how much it was going to end up costing after reshoots, editing, and marketing, etc, and decided it wasn't worth it?Quote:
this was the most expensive lfl script ever, with burns receiving $3M+
- the film was ready to film, with a completed script and budget
Edit: seriously, 3 mil for Ben Solo script? The f-cker that killed Han and no one wanted to be redeemed?
Soderbergh is notorious for coming in on time and under budget. He's one of the most frugal and efficient filmmakers in the game. That's a huge part of who he is. There is literally no reason this movie shouldn't have been made.
And $3M is what Lucasfilm paid, not Disney (not directly, anyway).
And $3M is what Lucasfilm paid, not Disney (not directly, anyway).
I have no knowledge about the guy, but good for him. Solid rep to have, for sure.
As to who wrote the check, ok, but if I'm Disney I personally would have questioned that decision anyway. Spend that much on something else, like the previously mentioned Jedi Academy.
There are reasons not to make a movie about Ben Solo, even if we don't agree on them.
As to who wrote the check, ok, but if I'm Disney I personally would have questioned that decision anyway. Spend that much on something else, like the previously mentioned Jedi Academy.
There are reasons not to make a movie about Ben Solo, even if we don't agree on them.
TC. is it normal for this much work to be done on a film before it's presented to a studio for approval? That sounds like a lot of sunk time and investment without blessing.
Thanks and gig'em
Yes and no.
Production companies - which is what Lucasfilm is, but also ones that are way smaller - pay writers all the time to write scripts (though usually not anywhere close to $3M), and then also package projects as well (meaning attach a director, actors, etc) before going to studios. That's super standard.
The difference is, most projects that are prepped like that on the front end are done so with the prospect of having multiple potential buyers (aka studios/distributors). In this instance, though, Disney is obviously the only studio that can make a Star Wars movie, so if they pass Lucasfilm is **** out of luck.
However, Soderbergh said it himself, confirmed to him by Kennedy... Disney has NEVER not made a script that Lucasfilm presented to them as ready to go. It sounds like "yes" has always been a formality until now, to the point where there was zero expectation on Lucasfilm's part that Disney would even say "no."
Production companies - which is what Lucasfilm is, but also ones that are way smaller - pay writers all the time to write scripts (though usually not anywhere close to $3M), and then also package projects as well (meaning attach a director, actors, etc) before going to studios. That's super standard.
The difference is, most projects that are prepped like that on the front end are done so with the prospect of having multiple potential buyers (aka studios/distributors). In this instance, though, Disney is obviously the only studio that can make a Star Wars movie, so if they pass Lucasfilm is **** out of luck.
However, Soderbergh said it himself, confirmed to him by Kennedy... Disney has NEVER not made a script that Lucasfilm presented to them as ready to go. It sounds like "yes" has always been a formality until now, to the point where there was zero expectation on Lucasfilm's part that Disney would even say "no."
Something weird definitely went down, along the lines of company politics or a petty grudge or something. Especially considering how insanely coordinated this "leak" was. From Driver's interview (specifically calling out Iger and Bergman) to Soderbergh simultaneously suddenly being so open and going on the record, this is either an effort to make Disney look like fools or to pressure them into making the movie - or both. But it was 100% a coordinated strategy, maybe even from Lucasfilm themselves...
Although the reported reason for Alan Bergman and Bob Iger cancelled THE HUNT FOR BEN SOLO was because they were unsure how Ben Solo could be alive after THE RISE OF SKYWALKER, sources close to the production say the decision was “politically motivated”
— Star Wars Holocron (@sw_holocron) October 24, 2025
(Source: The Playlist) pic.twitter.com/V7HiBdzvN7
Ok this sounds personal now https://t.co/vsL0SRXUWR
— 𝔞𝔣𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔟𝔩𝔬𝔰𝔰𝔬𝔪✨ (@_afterblossom_) October 24, 2025
The fact the script and/or any concept art hasn’t leaked is a good sign actually! Confirms that this is probably a bit of scorched earth from people within LF to get this made. Don’t stop being LOUD!! #TheHuntForBenSolo
— Someone’s failed-clone’s daughter/granddaughter (@MarienneMaid) October 24, 2025
I'm glad Driver, Soderbergh, maybe even Lucasfilm's reps are coordinating this campaign. Not sure if they'll make Disney fold under pressure but the effort is commendable
— Clay Winstead (@ClayWinstead) October 24, 2025
It’s so funny to see movies go into production without a finished script only for them to fail and studios just don’t understand why. Yet here we are with a finished script, a great director, and an incredible lead actor and they aren’t even remotely interested https://t.co/3VgM8gKYnI
— van watches spooky movies (@alejandroxpadi) October 24, 2025
It's so crazy to see Disney go from a company that could seemingly do no wrong while I was growing up to one that seems to bungle everything they touch these days.
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