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Snowpiercer - Chris Evans

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Wow, just saw this film and it was a fantastic sci-fi film that does what sci-fi does best . . . make us think our own society.

This was in a limited release so if you have the opportunity to see it, go do so immediately. This film was directed by Bong Joon-ho, same director of the South Korean monster flick - The Host. South Korean director, financed in France, with actors such as leading man Chris Evans, Tilda Swinton, and John Hurt, this is about as international as it comes. This movie was intended for wide-release but Harvey Weinstein wanted to cut out 20 minutes of the film because he felt mid-western Americans were too stupid for it. The director refused so they only did a limited release. I wouldn't say it was because some would be too stupid, just that some would not understand the controversial topic that arrives at the end involving Chris Evans' past experiences.

So on to the film. Yes, this involves global warming and the effects of trying to stop it, so take it for what you will. In an attempt to stop the warming epidemic, mankind did an experiment that essentially froze the planet. In an attempt to save the last of humanity, a billionaire train addict puts people aboard a train that circles the globe (they explain it, sorta) in an attempt to survive. This plot point alone gives a very surreal fairy tale vibe to what is a dark and twisted society that arises.

Upon boarding the ship, a class/caste system arose leaving people at the back of the train surviving off of protein bars for 18 years. The front parts of the train shift between 40s/50s opulence to futuristic night clubs. Chris Evans and John Hurt are the leaders of the resistance in the back of the train, trying to gain control of the engine, and in effect, the train society itself.

Because we are talking a train here, the director had to get real creative with the action scenes which never got stale in the intimate surroundings and are brutal. But it is the quieter moments this film shines, especially the scenes I suspect Weinstein wanted to cut. Some liken it to the Raid in terms of creativity in fight shots.

The film also has been likened to Terry Gilliam's Brazil, and there is even a slight nod in the names of John Hurt's character.

This film has been doing remarkably well, outselling Iron Man 3 and Transformers Dark of the Moon when it originally came out in Asian countries, no small feat. Because of meddling distributors, a lot of people won't see this until it hits VOD, but I insist you give it a shot if you can at a small cinema, or hopefully when it comes out for home market.
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sounds like WOOL on a train. i'll give it a shot on video.
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Minus the silliness of having the setting on a train, I thought this was a very good movie.
Saxsoon
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Wool on a train is actually pretty succinct
Citizen Reign
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It's a pretty cool concept if your a Sci-Fi fan.

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I really enjoyed this movie. The post apocalyptic dystopian class struggle has been done a lot (Elysium comes to mind most recently) and a few common tropes were used, but this still felt like a bit of a fresh twist. It has a great look set and costume wise, a really good performance by Evans as well as the supporting characters, and some great action scenes. I'd recommend it.
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sounds like WOOL on a train. i'll give it a shot on video.


You sum up greatness in 13 words. I'm very impressed. I'm not being sarcastic.
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I saw preview of this before X-men Days of Future Past last week. Was surprised because I had never heard of it.
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It's being shown at Violet Crowne in Austin.
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Saw it without having seen the trailer. It was a nice surprise.
Seven Psycho Ags
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Bioshock: The Movie!

Disclosure: stole that from Kotaku

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Gonna check it out in a few days. Really looking forward to it.
GiveEmHellBill
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Their site isn't updated for it's expansion beyond the 4th of July, so I have no idea if it'll reach Cinemark in College Station.

Cinemark generally gets these limited release films, even if just for a week. Just a few months ago, I made sure to catch The Raid 2 in it's only week of showings here. (Coincidently, the Blu-ray of that film will be on my doorstep from Amazon tomorrow!)

However, if we don't get it, I see online that Snowpiercer will be on VOD starting on Friday.
Saxsoon
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I was always surprised at the little films that the Cinemark in College Station would get.

That is still one of the nicer mainstream theaters I have ever been in. Big Theaters, great seats, just loved the A&M murals around the place. Definitely missed it compared to the theaters I have to frequent now, which aren't bad by any means.
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Great movie. For some reason it made me feel like I was watching an old 80s flick. And that's a huge plus for me. Everything but one part was great for me. I won't ruin it with spoilers but I'm sure everyone else thought the same and knows what part I'm talking about.
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Really, really good movie! Both the wife and I thoroughly enjoyed this flick, and would highly recommend checking it out - especially while it is still in theaters.
Seven Psycho Ags
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I'll rent this tonight. Looking forward to it
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I enjoyed parts but thought it went downhill the last 30 minutes
Saxsoon
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Honestly it was the last30 minutes that stopped this from being just another action flick
YouBet
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Cool movie. Really enjoyed it.

It is definitely Bioshock + Wool on a train.
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Good movie! Definitely worth watching. Some spoilers ahead....

Would have liked more character development re: tattooed ninja badass(who is this guy...he only has two scenes) and security expert(how did he go from designer to prisoner? how does he get out enough to notice the plane? his daughter, born on train but imprisoned?)

Chris Evans was a bad choice of lead. Needed someone who could exhibit more depth of suffering and anguish, and there were points in the movie where he just didn't deliver.
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***Spoilers***


Yeah, if we are going to get into the weeds there are a lot of plot holes:

There is no way they would have preserved beef or chicken for 18 years on a train.

Where were all of the sleep trains for all of these people? You just have to assume they were there and not shown.

Even with the Earth warming up those two kids at the end would be dead within 36 hours. But maybe that's fine. Better than dying on the train.

Edit: forgot spoiler tag

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Seven Psycho Ags
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Yeah, if we are going to get into the weeds there are a lot of plot holes:

There is no way they would have preserved beef or chicken for 18 years on a train.

Where were all of the sleep trains for all of these people? You just have to assume they were there and not shown.

Even with the Earth warming up those two kids at the end would be dead within 36 hours. But maybe that's fine. Better than dying on the train.


*Spoils*
I don't think we saw every car, either. It was a big damn train and we only saw something like 20 cars. I assumed they skipped past the residential and livestock cars. Someone said "I thought chickens were extinct" after grabbing an egg (I took this to mean they weren't preserved eggs).

As for the ending, I guess they would rally survivors and use supplies from the train to start a new society. They had tons of food and resources on board.

Also, I don't think making Chris Evans listen to his own people getting slaughtered over the phone was the best way to convince him of the need for sacrifice of lower class at the benefit of the ruling class

I enjoyed the movie quite a bit. It had a surreal, eerie feel to it and really did come across as a story similar in style to Bioshock (I have not read Wool). Kudos to another movie not afraid to be different

*End spoils*

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Just saw this on Amazon Prime. Very good movie.

*****MINOR SPOILER******










Agree on the character development, would've liked to known more about the badass fighter guy that gets worked by fat guy in designer suit.









******END MINOR SPOILER*****
Philip J Fry
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Saw it tonight. Neither the wife or I understood what exactly we were supposed to take away from the movie.
Jim01
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Watched it and really really enjoyed it.

First I am shocked TCTTS is no where to be found on this thread!

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My main complaint was that I felt like I sided with the "establishment" for almost the entire movie. I mean yes, you have to survive on protein bars made out of bugs but YOU ARE ALIVE! You would be DEAD if not for the train and the people in front.

Not until the end when some of the more gruesome things are revealed did I start to see the other side. Still I don't think crashing the entire train was the answer. I mean they could just stop it.

Still a fantastic ride and I would highly recommend.
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I am surprised tc hasn't posted either since it is in his top ten of the year on his blog.
Jim01
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What is TCTTS blog url?
Saxsoon
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It is somewhere in the last pages of his Projection List thread. The website hasn't gone live yet, but he is running his blog.
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What is TCTTS blog url?



https://ted-smith-hejq.squarespace.com/
TCTTS
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Sorry, I haven't clicked on this thread in a while.

To be honest, I didn't love Snowpiercer, but I definitely appreciated it, if that makes sense. I can completely understand why people hated it (as I have a few friends who absolutely loathed it), and at the same time, I can completely side with people who loved it. It made my top ten only because there's no way I could put X-Men, Godzilla, or Noah above it, since none of those movies really stood out to me in any meaningful way, and Snowpiercer is no doubt far more original and engaging.

It's just that a lot of dialogue (especially in the opening) was way too on the nose, and the action was a bit skitsofrantic at times (and not in a way I particularly enjoy), but I became more and more engaged as the story progressed, and I absolutely loved the ending.

So, long story short, I'm still trying to figure out how I feel about this one, hence why I haven't posted anything. But the more I've thought about it, the more I like it.
TCTTS
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And thanks for providing the link, SP.
Bunk Moreland
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Watched last night.

I definitely enjoyed it, but don't know if I was loved. I agree with some of the complaints on this thread. It definitely could have been cleaned up, especially with the early cheesy dialogue. But overall it was a good effort, something a bit different, so it was worth my time. Some cool scenes, stuff to think about, but not a home run.

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Dp

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TCTTS
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Right there with you, Bunk.
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