On HBO in 15.... Thoughts on this movie?

Good movie. Much better in the theater.

Great movie. Pacino is a little overboard (what's new?) but the movie is still great.

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Little long but great movie. Bank robbery shootout scene is top notch.

I was hoping this thread was gonna be about the professional robbers movie and not the Sandra Bullock movie.

I liked it. The botched robbery in GTA IV was basically Heat: The Video Game

One of my favorites from that era.

Crazy well done.

Good movie. Sorely needs editing though.

parts of it are amazing (shootout). parts of it are complete garbage (the WAGs).

The gun battle and the coffee shop scenes are amazing

The last hurrah of Pacino and DeNiro.

I loved everything about it.

Good not great. Needed an edit.

Be sure and check out Val Kilmers elbow.

its one of my favorites and without a doubt that bank robbery scene is one of the best of all time and probably wont be outdone in our lifetimes.

ya, it could use about a 20 minute edit but those extra mins didn't bother me personally.

DeNiro was perfection in that film and Pacino had his moments but he was a lil over the top at times.

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Good not great. Needed an edit.

Be sure and check out Val Kilmers elbow.

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when?

I think it is when they are breaking into the place but abort the mission.

One of my favorite movies.

FYI - Think Kilmer has a cyst on his elbow, recognizable in Neil's (DeNiro's) condo. Not sure if real or for character.

It apparently migrated to his abdomen in later years.

legit

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I liked it. The botched robbery in GTA IV was basically Heat: The Video Game

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Man, I totally forgot about that. I wish I could figure out how to unloack the parental controls on my xbox so I could go back and play that mission. It was awesome.

I'm angry. I'm very angry, Ralph.

In the conversation for top 10 movie of the 90s and probably Michael Mann's best film, in my opinion.

Others in the top 10 for me:

Pulp Fiction
Fight Club
Goodfellas
The Shawshank Redemption
Saving Private Ryan
The Usual Suspects
The Matrix
American History X
Good Will Hunting


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It one of my top 10 favorites of all time. I watch it at least once a year.

Great movie.

The cast alone is reason to watch this movie.

Deniro
Pacino
Kilmer
Sizemore
Portman
Judd
Voight

I didn't think it was as good as it should/could have been, considering the cast.

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Great movie.

The cast alone is reason to watch this movie.

Deniro
Pacino
Kilmer
Sizemore
Portman
Judd
Voight

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Don't forget Danny Trejo and Tone Loc

and don't forget Amy Brenneman...



...who played "Eady" in Heat...



...and is nowadays known as Laurie Garvey on HBO's The Leftovers.

The grim reaper is visiting with you.

If he just keeps driving at the end instead of stopping at the hotel Heat would probably be remembered as an all time great. In order to have a final confrontation, they betrayed everything about De Niro's character.

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If he just keeps driving at the end instead of stopping at the hotel Heat would probably be remembered as an all time great. In order to have a final confrontation, they betrayed everything about De Niro's character.

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That was kinda the point (the fallibility of the characters, both robbers and police, and how their lives were ruined by their weaknesses, etc.). DeNiro's downfall was his newfound attraction for this woman and desire to change his ways and escape his bank robber life. Toa have De Niro keep driving (as much as I wanted him to) would have been contrary to what the movie was saying. That wouldn't have made the movie great, it would have lessened the impact of it.

Each to their own I guess, but the way I see it is that they chickened out on letting the bad guy get away, and forced one more scene between the two stars when it wasn't needed.

The whole point of "Heat" was don't have anything you aren't willing to walk out on in a second if the heat is around the corner - which is exactly what DeNiro did (or tried to do) at the end. You don't cut the scene that included a decision by the main character that you set the entire movie up to lead to. It didn't betray his character because he lived up to his speech to Pacino in the cafe - he chose his criminal life (and getting even with Waingro) and escaping the Heat over the girl. He had his chance to get away with her initially and couldn't do it, then he literally walked/ran away from her when spotting the heat.

It could have used a little bit of editing with some of the WAGS scenes being a decent candidate for cutting, but it needed some of the WAGS because it was the premise of the movie. I probably would have cut or at least shortened some of the the ****ed up step-daughter stuff, along with a little bit of the other WAGS scenes with the side characters.

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I've never been a huge Michael Mann fan. Last of the Mohicans is the only movie of his I would really consider to be a really great movie. All his movies tend to suffer from the same issue: scenes that drag just a little bit too long. Ali is another movie like Heat, in that a little bit more editing could have put the movie on a whole other level.