ATM1876 said:

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The Alamo Drafthouse is showing Heat on the big screen tomorrow night with a Q&A with Michael Mann afterward live-streamed from LA. I may go check this out, it'd be cool to see it on the big screen again:

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/michael-mann-heat-nationwide-screenings-dvd-blu-ray-1202391981/

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damnit, wish i could go. if i were in Austin I'd def do this.

Bruce Almighty said:

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I've never been a huge Michael Mann fan. Last of the Mohicans is the only movie of his I would really consider to be a really great movie. All his movies tend to suffer from the same issue: scenes that drag just a little bit too long. Ali is another movie like Heat, in that a little bit more editing could have put the movie on a whole other level.

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Interesting take. I'm on the other side of the fence in that I'm a fan of most of the things he's done with a few notable exceptions.

1992 - The Last of the Mohicans
1995 - Heat
1999 - The Insider
2001 - Ali
2004 - Collateral

That's a very strong 5 movie series in my estimation. I even liked Public Enemies. Miami Vice is pretty meh, and Blackhat is abysmal.

Speaking of Collateral, that's a criminally underrated movie. It's one of my favorite Tom Cruise roles ever, too.

Bonus: The Briefcase Scene

Val Kilmer did a Reddit AMA last week, and it was one of the best I've seen. I thought he gave extremely candid and thoughtful responses on a bunch of topics (including his work on Heat). It's worth checking out.

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/67qzrx/hello_reddit_i_am_actor_and_artist_val_kilmer_i/

GIMME ALL YOU GOT!!!!!!!!!!!

Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

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DeNiro was perfection in that film and Pacino had his moments but he was a lil over the top at times.

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Watched this movie for the first time this week. I agree with this statement. The over the topness can work but it seemed forced at times in delivery by Pacino. At other times it was great.

Good movie, definitely worth a watch if you haven't seen it before. I took issue a few times with the editing though.

Multiple threads I found on it:
https://texags.com/forums/13/topics/822658/replies
https://texags.com/forums/13/topics/831295/replies
https://texags.com/forums/13/topics/1174660/replies

One question I had with Trejo. He wasn't the CI, but how did the cops get the word on the bank? Was it Van Zandt's group that tipped the cops off after they themselves were following Trejo around? Or, was he the CI and his whole deal about Van Zandt's men was exclusive of the CI deal?

Van Zandt hired Waynegro because he had worked with DeNiro/Crew. Waynegro kidnaps Trejo's wife/gf and makes Trejo spill the beans on the bank. Waynegro tells Van Zandt, who then tells his henchman/CI Henry Rollins to rat out the DeNiro crew to the cops.

That's why Pacino and cops go after Henry Rollins after bank heist. He then rats out Van Zandt and Waynegro. DeNiro takes out Van Zandt before cops can get there. Cops then stakeout target #2 Waynegro and DeNiro can't resist and takes the bait.

Big Michael Mann fan here

I actually loved his Miami Vice movie. Some vicious bad guys in that one.

dreyOO said:

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Big Michael Mann fan here

I actually loved his Miami Vice movie. Some vicious bad guys in that one.

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I didn't like the Miami Vice when I first saw it. I watched it a second time and liked it a lot. Weird how that happens. It's a shame they didn't follow it up because I think it was set up for a sequel. I think I heard that Jamie Foxx was pretty difficult to deal with on that movie is why there was never a sequel.

beanbean said:

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dreyOO said:

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Big Michael Mann fan here

I actually loved his Miami Vice movie. Some vicious bad guys in that one.

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I didn't like the Miami Vice when I first saw it. I watched it a second time and liked it a lot. Weird how that happens. It's a shame they didn't follow it up because I think it was set up for a sequel. I think I heard that Jamie Foxx was pretty difficult to deal with on that movie is why there was never a sequel.

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As a kid who loved MV growing up in the '80s, I also liked the modern movie version. Definitely would have been all in on a second movie.

I am still waiting for it to start

This thread is filled with a lot of people who apparently never saw Manhunter.

THAT is Mann's masterpiece.

No mention of Thief from the 80's??? Unbelievable movie with James Caan greatness!!

It's a deleted scene with all that. Not sure why Mann cut it out

So many great lines it's an all time classic that is consistently in my head

Lady why you so interested in what I read and what I do

The action is the juice

Gimme all you got

Great ass

I gotta get it on, man

Heat around the corner

Proposition Joe said:

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This thread is filled with a lot of people who apparently never saw Manhunter.

THAT is Mann's masterpiece.

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Very true and here's just one small example:

I rewatched Heat earlier this summer with my 16 year old daughter (her first viewing). She LOVES heist and cop/criminal movies so this seemed like a good choice.

We both agreed it was WAY too long. I had forgotten how long it was and man it drags at times. Some backstory on some of the characters is always appreciated but you had scenes like Waingro's serial murder scene (that never gets resolved) too much daughter randomness (how did she find him and why was she in his room when she made her bathtub-decision), etc.

Some incredible one liners, some awesome scenes, but man it drags a lot between those fun and memorable moments.

I think I read somewhere that some law enforcement agencies use Kilmers' fast reloading of his AR under pressure as part of their training.

Found this on Wiki....

To make the long shootout more realistic they hired British ex-Special Air Service sergeant Andy McNab as a technical weapons trainer and adviser. He designed a weapons training curriculum to train the actors for three months using live ammunition before shooting with blanks for the actual take and worked with training them for the bank robbery.