Are you kidding me? This is DC's chance to show us the prequels exploring how she built a hole, put prisoners in it, and then threw away the hole!
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In fairness, The Authority was absolutely awesome when it came out under Warren Ellis/Bryan Hitch and then Mark Millar/Frank Quitely. It was absolutely nuts so I'd love to see that on the big screen (although it was pretty dark and violent).
Batman Brave and Bold is going to be very different tonally from The Pattinson Universe - which makes perfect sense. More cartoony and "Gunn-y" which doesn't sound that appealing to me, but I get it. I'm a huge Batman fan but not the Bat-family, so hopefully, they can change my mind.
Damian is an interesting choice but also kind of obvious as they need to do something totally different than Patman and what we've seen before. I've never been crazy about Damian mainly cuz he's so young and I think all Robins kind of suck. He's a complete little sh*t. He's basically going to be Hit Girl from Kickass but not likable.
Damian is an interesting choice but also kind of obvious as they need to do something totally different than Patman and what we've seen before. I've never been crazy about Damian mainly cuz he's so young and I think all Robins kind of suck. He's a complete little sh*t. He's basically going to be Hit Girl from Kickass but not likable.
Good points Sex Panther. I agree with everything you said, and in no way was this an accident.
I don't want this to turn into a vaccine debate, I'm only posting this to say that in this particular instance Gunn gave the absolute perfect answer...
Unless someone's out there spreading hate-speech, blatant conspiracy theories known to be provably false, etc, this should be how all of society operates.
DCU Chief James Gunn Defends ‘Shazam!’ Actor @ZacharyLevi's Right To Have An Opinion Over Controversial Pfizer Tweet https://t.co/vIGmllHQDK
— OutKick (@Outkick) February 1, 2023
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"Actors and filmmakers that I work with are going to say things that I agree with and things that I don't agree with," James Gunn responded. "And that's going to happen. I don't have a list of things that somebody should say because of what I think. And you know, I can't be changing my plans all the time because an actor says something that I don't agree with."
Unless someone's out there spreading hate-speech, blatant conspiracy theories known to be provably false, etc, this should be how all of society operates.
Sex Panther said:
Batman Brave and Bold is going to be very different tonally from The Pattinson Universe - which makes perfect sense. More cartoony and "Gunn-y" which doesn't sound that appealing to me, but I get it. I'm a huge Batman fan but not the Bat-family, so hopefully, they can change my mind.
Damian is an interesting choice but also kind of obvious as they need to do something totally different than Patman and what we've seen before. I've never been crazy about Damian mainly cuz he's so young and I think all Robin's kind of suck. He's a complete little ***** He's basically going to be Hit Girl from Kickass but not likable.
All interesting to know. Sounds like this means an older Batman as well, at least compared to Pattinson. If this world/iteration was all we were getting, Batman-wise, I'd be pretty pissed. But as an alternative to the Reeves franchise, it could be kind of fun. We shall see.
Sex Panther said:
Good points Sex Panther. I agree with everything you said, and in no way was this an accident.
It sounds like Gadot, Momoa, and Levi with a new Superman are the anchors going forward which I think is what most people wanted. Im assuming there won't be two of any of those characters though. Really confused why cavill not involved considering his passion for this. And I don't personally like Levi as shazam although I need to give that movie another chance.
Waller is a non-starter for me. Would have scrubbed that. That character is one of the most unlikeable while simultaneously forgetful characters in that universe.
Really surprised Swamp Thing is in the first phase. That seems random on surface, but is in line with Gunn picking weird characters to highlight. I'm probably most intrigued with that one and Lanterns.
Waller is a non-starter for me. Would have scrubbed that. That character is one of the most unlikeable while simultaneously forgetful characters in that universe.
Really surprised Swamp Thing is in the first phase. That seems random on surface, but is in line with Gunn picking weird characters to highlight. I'm probably most intrigued with that one and Lanterns.
Over the history of all Batman media he has been all kinds of both dark and campy. Somehow the Adam West version and the Batfleck version are the same character. Comics and cartoons are the same. Batman Brave and Bold cartoon was really campy and funny, but also a ton of fun. The dark Batman isn't always fun, so maybe Gunn is shooting for a more fun version.
So good…
James Gunn reveals future of The #DCEU
— TheHolyGoofProductions (@TheHolyGoofs) February 1, 2023
(UPDATED). #DC #DCUniverse pic.twitter.com/6Jgfo8abzH
If the theme song for The Authority is not "I Fight Authority" by John Cougar Mellencamp than nothing makes sense anymore.
Ok, if James Mangold (Walk the Line, Logan, Ford v Ferrari, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny) is directing Swamp Thing, my interest in this particular title just skyrocketed…
— Mangold (@mang0ld) February 1, 2023
TCTTS said:
This isn't quite the initial slate I was expecting, but reading through everything, and considering the Gunn of it all, it makes sense.
Except for the fact that it's still somewhat connected to DCEU, with Waller being the first live-action series, and then Safran and Gunn leaving the door open "for Gal Gadot, Jason Momoa, Ezra Miller, and Zachary Levi to continue playing their respective DC superheroes of Wonder Woman, Aquaman, the Flash and Shazam"
Huh?
So if/when they pop up again, they'll suddenly be interacting with a new Superman who isn't Henry Cavill? And the same goes for Batman? I totally get and absolutely support having the Reeves Batman universe and an Abrams/Coates Superman iteration outside of the DCU. But keeping some of the old DCEU characters around, and having them interact with new versions of Superman and Batman, within the DCU, makes zero sense to me.
James Gunn basically picked Zach for Shazam and Shazam hasn't interacted with any of the other major characters in DCEU. Slightly different than the other big characters.
Just some random musings, no actual new information.
DC has to separate itself and DC trying to be marvel which has been the previous DCU tact has led to predictably disastrous consequence and muddying of the what the brand actually is.
Gunns choices make sense to me because he's doing three things. Sticking to his strengths, avoiding comparison of prior IP and creating something in the superhero-verse that doesn't exactly exist yet. Something between what marvel did and "The Boys". That's where Gunn lives as a content producer.
DC superheros and villains for the most part just seem more cartoony which is why I think they've although they have had success in comics and animated media there has been difficulty in a live action medium. Gunn is a good bridge for that as shown in GOTG and The Suicide Squad. What he did with Rocket has been nothing short of amazing. I would have shouted you down if you had told me prior to GOTG that a talking Racoon would be one of my favorite characters from the marvel series of movies, but he is.
I think Gunn has picked projects which purposefully play to his strengths and I'm looking forward to what he puts out.
DC has to separate itself and DC trying to be marvel which has been the previous DCU tact has led to predictably disastrous consequence and muddying of the what the brand actually is.
Gunns choices make sense to me because he's doing three things. Sticking to his strengths, avoiding comparison of prior IP and creating something in the superhero-verse that doesn't exactly exist yet. Something between what marvel did and "The Boys". That's where Gunn lives as a content producer.
DC superheros and villains for the most part just seem more cartoony which is why I think they've although they have had success in comics and animated media there has been difficulty in a live action medium. Gunn is a good bridge for that as shown in GOTG and The Suicide Squad. What he did with Rocket has been nothing short of amazing. I would have shouted you down if you had told me prior to GOTG that a talking Racoon would be one of my favorite characters from the marvel series of movies, but he is.
I think Gunn has picked projects which purposefully play to his strengths and I'm looking forward to what he puts out.
I maintain my stance that the lesson WB should’ve learned from that Nolan Batman trilogy is that attracting a really high caliber young filmmaker and giving them total free reign on one specific superhero for a three movie run could and should’ve been their whole brand.
— A.B. Allen (@A_B_Allen) January 31, 2023
If they’re gonna go the “interconnected universe” route hiring someone like Gunn and letting them oversee the whole thing is wise. I just think they should’ve headed the other direction a decade ago and done, like, a clean Joseph Kosinski Superman trilogy or something.
— A.B. Allen (@A_B_Allen) January 31, 2023
TCTTS said:
Ok, if James Mangold (Walk the Line, Logan, Ford v Ferrari, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny) is directing Swamp Thing, my interest in this particular title just skyrocketed…— Mangold (@mang0ld) February 1, 2023
Yes!
‘Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny’ filmmaker James Mangold is circling to helm ‘Swamp Thing,’ Deadline has learned https://t.co/bg3s6yW4BB
— Deadline Hollywood (@DEADLINE) February 1, 2023
Very interesting. As some here suspected, it seems The Flash will be crucial to the DCU reboot, and is what will also allow for certain DCEU characters to remain…
James Gunn on How Some DCU Actors Will Stay the Same After The Flashhttps://t.co/yZMzHeTCLl
— ComingSoon.net (@comingsoonnet) February 3, 2023
Now I wish they'd save Flash for Christmas, and move Aquaman up to summer, just so the DCEU ends on that note, with the actual reboot, leading into the year+ off before the DCU. Seems it'd be more poignant that way, instead having another DCEU movie *after* the reboot.
I'm trying to remember… Michael Keaton will be Batman in the Flash, right?
So would that mean… he'll be Batman in the new Batman and Robin, if Flash is resetting the actor slate?
Unless that movie ends with the close of the Keaton timeline and the creation of a new one…. But I suppose there's a potential for more Keaton as Batman.
So would that mean… he'll be Batman in the new Batman and Robin, if Flash is resetting the actor slate?
Unless that movie ends with the close of the Keaton timeline and the creation of a new one…. But I suppose there's a potential for more Keaton as Batman.
Thanks and gig'em
He's 71 and is only getting older. A bit long in the tooth for Batman. Just playing Wayne? Sure.Aggie_Journalist said:
I'm trying to remember… Michael Keaton will be Batman in the Flash, right?
So would that mean… he'll be Batman in the new Batman and Robin, if Flash is resetting the actor slate?
Unless that movie ends with the close of the Keaton timeline and the creation of a new one…. But I suppose there's a potential for more Keaton as Batman.
Aggie_Journalist said:
I'm trying to remember… Michael Keaton will be Batman in the Flash, right?
So would that mean… he'll be Batman in the new Batman and Robin, if Flash is resetting the actor slate?
Unless that movie ends with the close of the Keaton timeline and the creation of a new one…. But I suppose there's a potential for more Keaton as Batman.
Both Keaton's Batman and Affleck's Batman are in The Flash. Keaton, however, signed to play Batman across at least two movies - The Flash and Batgirl. He shot all his scenes for the latter (there are paparazzi set pics online, if you care to look them up), but when that movie was shelved for being "unreleasable," Keaton's future in DCEU suddenly came into question. And then, when Gunn & Safran took over, and established the DCU, any additional Keaton plans went out the window. By all accounts, the DCU will cast an all new Batman for The Brave and the Bold. Damian Wayne will play his tween/teenage son, so that Batman could be anywhere from his mid-thirties to his fifties, I imagine. Either way, the character will likely be too young for Keaton to play, but who knows. I wouldn't bet on it, though
I definitely read this as Damon Wayons and was like you gotta be ****ing kidding me.TCTTS said:Aggie_Journalist said:
I'm trying to remember… Michael Keaton will be Batman in the Flash, right?
So would that mean… he'll be Batman in the new Batman and Robin, if Flash is resetting the actor slate?
Unless that movie ends with the close of the Keaton timeline and the creation of a new one…. But I suppose there's a potential for more Keaton as Batman.
Both Keaton's Batman and Affleck's Batman are in The Flash. Keaton, however, signed to play Batman across at least two movies - The Flash and Batgirl. He shot all his scenes for the latter (there are paparazzi set pics online, if you care to look them up), but when that movie was shelved for being "unreleasable," Keaton's future in DCEU suddenly came into question. And then, when Gunn & Safran took over, and established the DCU, any additional Keaton plans went out the window. By all accounts, the DCU will cast an all new Batman for The Brave and the Bold. Damian Wayne will play his tween/teenage son, so that Batman could be anywhere from his mid-thirties to his fifties, I imagine. Either way, the character will likely too young for Keaton to play the role, but who knows. I wouldn't bet on it, though
Ironically, Marlon Wayans was originally cast as Robin in Tim Burton's would-be third Batman movie. But when Burton ultimately dropped out, and Joel Schumacher was then hired, he obviously went in a very different direction, both creatively and cast-wise, giving us Chris O'Donnell in 1995's Batman Forever.
New pod: I’m kinda calling BS on DC’s exhausting “new” strategy. With man in tights @Borys_Kit. https://t.co/6uSR9hcAJ0
— Matthew Belloni (@MattBelloni) February 2, 2023
It’s time for your report card #DCStudios!
— Ringer-Verse (@RingerVerse) February 1, 2023
The Midnight Boys @VanLathan, @charlesxholmes, @JomiAdeniran, and @steveahlman give grades to the first slate of announcements from James Gunn.
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Age hasn't stopped Harrison Ford from donning the fedora yet again. I'd love to see Keaton back under the cowl.Quote:
He's 71 and is only getting older. A bit long in the tooth for Batman.
Cinco Ranch Aggie said:Age hasn't stopped Harrison Ford from donning the fedora yet again. I'd love to see Keaton back under the cowl.Quote:
He's 71 and is only getting older. A bit long in the tooth for Batman.
True. He's a total outlier though and Batman is the very definition of a physical role. In reality, they will use a stunt double for Keaton when he's Batman so I guess it won't matter.
He still might move like a 71 year old at some point, like Samuel L Jackson in Captain Marvel. Might be best to just let that one go IMO.
Enjoyed this listen. Thought it was interesting that given the lineup, there's a decent chance Superman is quite a bit younger than Batman
For sure. They seemed to bristle against it at first, but I could see that dynamic really working.
If Keaton somehow sticks around for the Brave and the Bold, I could see it being a Batman Beyond direction, where Batman is very old and clearly beyond crime fighting and Robin is his protege.
But if they're having Robin be Batman's son…. Then a 70+ yo Batman might be a bit too old.
Fwiw, I hope they cast someone new for Brave and Bold.
But if they're having Robin be Batman's son…. Then a 70+ yo Batman might be a bit too old.
Fwiw, I hope they cast someone new for Brave and Bold.
Thanks and gig'em
Could be Batman's son by Bruce Wayne's 39 something trophy wife.
Oh all the billion chick Batman could bang, he has to go commando with his estranged mentor's daughter. What are the odds?
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