....starring Brad Pitt and Shia LaBoueff and I thought it was very good.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2713180/

An exciting story, great special effects and exceptional cinematography,



Out-armored, out-gunned and out-numbered, Brad Pitt as Sherman tank commander Wardaddy leads his four man crew on the final push into Germany during WWII.

Gritty, grim, visceral, heroic, bloody and action filled, this movie shows for tank warfare what "Das Boot" did for underwater combat and what "Paths of Glory" and "Saving Privater Ryan" did for infantry assault.

Not for the faint of heart. the vainglorious or any viewers unappreciative of realism, this tells and shows one cinematic view of what Hell on Wheels really was.

It's not like "Rambo," "The Dirty Dozen, John Wayne, the excellent "Sergeant York" or most other Hollywood war movies.

There's no big picture and no back story, because this sanguine flick all happens within or near a single tank.

There's no biting satire as in "Inglourious Basterds" and no one over or under portrays anything, IMHO.

There are a few thoughtful and/or lighter moments, but nothing really goes well or ends well in war.

If you don't die, all you can hope for is to do your duty, fight with purpose and that it will end with victory for your side.

Mostly this movie is rumble, rumble, rumble; clank. clank. clank; bang, bang, bang and boom, boom, boom and that was a very good screenplay for me.

With believable characters and realistic situations, this film showed war as it should be truly depicted.

Thanks and kudos to all those who fought and served.

Highly recommended for those viewers who want to, need to or should know.

Anybody seen it?

I liked it with the only exception being the music being cranked up during the battle scenes. If you're trying to make a gritty war movie, don't make it a music video.

Saving Private Ryan spoiled me.

I liked Shia the most. I hope he gets his stuff together. He's a good actor and if he continues to turn in good performances like this, I won't demand an apology from him for Transformers if I ever see him.

Brad Pitt was good too. He almost stole from Aldo the Apache at times though.

Anyone have Norman's girlfriend's number?

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I agree with your review other than the climactic "last stand" engagement. I posted this in the other Fury thread as well. Cool idea for the guys to hold their ground and I don't doubt that some of our guys would have/did make that decision, BUT when the scene began and the guys in an immobilized tank managed to kill half of the Waffen SS, the movie kind of lost me. I wish they'd shot that scene in a different way and had them kill a few, maybe a dozen Germans, but as they were mowing down scores and scores of Germans over what felt like a large span of time, I found it laughable. No way any unit with even the most basic training would have reacted in such a incompetent way toward that scenario. In reality it would have been - ambush, some Germans die, the rest take cover and form a plan of attack - panzerfausts fired from cover from multiple direction, no more Sherman.

the first tank battle (against the AT and entrenched infantry) was awesome

I wonder if I would have thought the movie more effective if they killed the entire crew?

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I thought this movie was a bit underwhelming. The actors do a fine job, but the writing doesn't do them any favors. The last scene is ridiculous. An immobilized tank should be easy pickings for a platoon with multiple boxes of panzerfausts. Also, the "discovery" at the end by the SS didn't make sense to me. If a group of people just mowed down half your buddies, why would you then let one of them go for no reason?

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I thought this movie was a bit underwhelming. The actors do a fine job, but the writing doesn't do them any favors. The last scene is ridiculous. An immobilized tank should be easy pickings for a platoon with multiple boxes of panzerfausts. Also, the "discovery" at the end by the SS didn't make sense to me. If a group of people just mowed down half your buddies, why would you then let one of them go for no reason?

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1. Can't answer about the boxes of panzerfausts
2. This was late in the war, lots of kids and people who didn't want to fight being conscripted

everything up to the part where Brad Pitt convinces them to stay with the disabled tank was pretty great

loved the way they showed how the tank crew worked together

also liked the light and sound effects they used to portray the incoming tank rounds. it was legit scary.

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lots of kids and people who didn't want to fight being conscripted

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in the SS?

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I wish they'd shot that scene in a different way and had them kill a few, maybe a dozen Germans, but as they were mowing down scores and scores of Germans over what felt like a large span of time, I found it laughable. No way any unit with even the most basic training would have reacted in such a incompetent way toward that scenario. In reality it would have been - ambush, some Germans die, the rest take cover and form a plan of attack - panzerfausts fired from cover from multiple direction, no more Sherman.

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it was silly

they spent so much of the movie making it as realistic as they could while keeping it filmable and interesting

like the way they show the tanks just catching on fire when they get knocked out (rather than the Michael Bay approach of having them shatter into a 100 pieces)

and then they turn it into the ending of the wild bunch. it wasn't necessary.

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Yes. The director has addressed that scene. Not everyone on the German side was bloodthirsty and many by the end didn't even want to be there (like Norman).

so they were sticking kids and the elderly in SS units?

Could be. By the end of the war, the SS units could mostly have been SS in name only.

fair enough

but that kinda takes away from the danger of that particular encounter

for me, it was an A+ all the way up until when they hit the AT mine. ended as a B+ IMO.

will absolutely stop down and watch anytime it's re-run on cable.

Good call. Just because the last scene was a little over the top and unbelievable doesn't take away from the brilliance of the rest of the film.

Audie Murphy had a similar stand. According to his Medal of Honor citation he single handedly killed or wounded 50. I'm not saying the ending was perfect, but fantastical stuff did happen during the war. With a little suspension of disbelief, the commander being killed early, and the idea that the group they fought had youths I think the ending holds up to most scrutiny.

http://amhistory.si.edu/militaryhistory/collection/object.asp?ID=421

I wanted to give it a pass, because I did like most of the rest of the movie, but no way. That scene was ridiculous on the level of old Bond movies with all of the villain's henchmen with sub mg's being outgunned by one dude with a pistol. It was just cheesy. And that was the CLIMAX of the movie.

Go back and watch the scene when that unit is on the march toward the ambush. Count the number of troops seen carrying antitank weapons. That unit would have specifically trained with how to use them, and specifically on how to use them on a damaged or immobilized tank.

What I didn't like was that the movie makers wanted it to be best of both worlds...killing A LOT of Germans, but not just any Germans, the freaking Waffen SS. The problem is that the Waffen SS were very effective soldiers. Imagine watching a movie made by Germans that shows one immobilized Panzer taking out dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of 101st Airborne or Army Rangers...hopefully you'd think that was BS, because it would be. The only way to make that scene plausible is to replace the SS unit with some conscripted soldiers, but the audience wouldn't have enjoyed as much watching 14 year olds and elders being mowed down. So, they came up with an impossible scene and just hoped people would buy it.

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wasn't that bit in Inglourious Basterds?

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So, they came up with an impossible scene and just hoped people would buy it.

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Wardaddy and crew had been fighting since North Africa.

so based on that, they were superhuman.


it's not like infantry can easily outflank immobilized armor. the bow gunner, main gun, coax gun, and .50 are going to keep everything in front of them.

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Wardaddy and crew had been fighting since North Africa.

so based on that, they were superhuman.

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Some of those Waffen SS dudes had served on the Eastern Front and had a ton of practice blowing up Red Army tanks. It doesn't take that much training and experience to seek and fire from cover.

All that matters is whether or not you watched it and thought "that seems legit". If y'all did, cool, but myself and the group I was with all agreed that that seemed like a really big stretch.

It's possible. I pulled it off in Call of Duty 2 a few times

Oh yeah, if they'd make a movie about me in BF3 it would be totally rad.

you haven't lived until you've launched a Sherman 100 ft in the air courtesy of a suicide Kbelwagen loaded with 5 ExpPacks

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so they were sticking kids and the elderly in SS units?

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By April 1945... Absolutely.

so at that point, they really aren't even waffen ss

we're arguing designations rather than quality/fanaticism

No, I still think it is about plausibility. Yes, you would have all zee Germans in front of the tank at first, but once the shooting started they all scattered - some ran into the house, some ran into the trees. Once the surprise element is blown, zee Germans have the advantage. There are NO guns or defenses behind the tank. With how many troops they had, there would at least be one or two guys who could get behind the tank and drop in a grenade. Or how about shooting any of those panzerfausts? At least one guy in the platoon should be able to hit a stationary target.

Instead, zee Germans appeared to make frontal assault after frontal assault on a stationary target who was completely blind and vulnerable from behind. They did this until it got dark and then continued it throughout the night!!! Even if they couldn't flank the tank during the day (which they should still be able to), there is no reason they couldn't flank a stationary, isolated target at night.

Even Audie Murphy had artillery support and a line of troops in the tree line behind him to help keep from getting flanked.

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At least one guy in the platoon should be able to hit a stationary target.

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well, they did

that's how coon ass bought it

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there is no reason they couldn't flank a stationary, isolated target at night.

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you must have missed all the smoke they laid down

Then why was he the only one to die? Every other time in the movie when a tank is hit by an anti-tank rocket the entire thing goes up.

How would the smoke help them against the panzerfausts? That is a huge tank that is immobile and about 20 yards away. It didn't move. Shoot where you last saw it before the smoke. Presto.

Look, I'm not asking for a perfect war movie, but I hate rolling my eyes during a film I paid to see in the theater.

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I hate rolling my eyes during a film I paid to see in the theater.

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i know

i felt the same way during inception

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Then why was he the only one to die? Every other time in the movie when a tank is hit by an anti-tank rocket the entire thing goes up.

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Because it was ****ing Fury! A jerry stomping, building obliterating, hard as nails war machine manned by seasoned warriors working the best job they ever had!

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Then why was he the only one to die? Every other time in the movie when a tank is hit by an anti-tank rocket the entire thing goes up.

How would the smoke help them against the panzerfausts? That is a huge tank that is immobile and about 20 yards away. It didn't move. Shoot where you last saw it before the smoke. Presto.

Look, I'm not asking for a perfect war movie, but I hate rolling my eyes during a film I paid to see in the theater.

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You forget that there were no NVGs or personal radios to squad/team elements. Even nowadays, it is extremely hard to maneuver in hours of limited visibility with night vision and radios for fire team/squad size elements.

Maneuver would most likely have to be within earshot to avoid fratricide. The Germans might have also been assuming an American infantry unit within a mile or two- as Fury's mission was to seize the croaseoads in preparation for follow-on forces (I.e. The infantry company).

This might explain the hesitation of probing the sides a little as well- but it also can be chalked up to the fact that the unit was most likely made up of raw recruits with a cadre of experienced SS soldiers.

The reason that fury didn't burst into flame with the rocket attacks is due to the fact that it was up armored with tree trunks on the side. The Panzerfaust is a shaped-charge warhead that kills via a molten copper jet. The tree trunks would have dissipated this and prevented a catastrophic kill.

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A jerry stomping, building obliterating, hard as nails war machine manned by seasoned warriors working the best job they ever had!

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well, it was definitely upgunned

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well, it was definitely upgunned

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It had a high velocity 76mm... Standard for an m4a3E8. The only addition I saw was the additional .30 cal mounted in front of the TC's hatch.

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which the other shermans in the movie were not

correct me if im wrong

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which the other shermans in the movie were not

correct me if im wrong

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Right. One or two were equipped with the low velocity 75- also a standard cannon in Sherman models. Calling Fury up gunned is a tad misleading. It's like calling the M1A1 an up gunned M1- they're two different models.