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This series could've been justified at two movies. Three was ridiculous...

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It could have been 2 really good movies...

Most of my complaints stem from the added crap needed to get to 3 movies.

I liked the BFA, but not even close to the LOTR moves imo.

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Probably one of my favorite moments that was really touching was the part when Bard was aiming his shot at Smaug and his son started to look back. Bard told his son to turn around and look at him. I just thought that was a really awesome father/son scene, and that showed how much Bain trusted his dad.

I haven't read LOTR or The Hobbit nor do I ever plan on reading LOTR or The Hobbit, so I don't really care about how faithful they are or if there is added fluff to justify splitting the story into three movies. I hated An Unexpected Journey (thought it was the worst of the six) but enjoyed The Desolation of Smaug and think The Battle of the Five Armies is even better.

I loved the movie, but watching it in real 3d HFR absolutely killed the magic for me in many parts. Needed to rewatch in classic mode

Martin Freeman, Richard Armitage, and Luke Evans absolutely stole the show for me. Every scene with Bilbo was great, and the opening sequence with Bard and Bain was amazing (though smaug happened to be my favorite technical achievement of this trilogy)

Really enjoyed it.

Curious to know, who would have their children's children watch the Hobbit trilogy before the LOTR trilogy?

Or would it not matter?

My son was too young to understand LOTR, but we've read and watched the Hobbit together. No problem.

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I loved the movie, but watching it in real 3d HFR absolutely killed the magic for me in many parts. Needed to rewatch in classic mode

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Really? That's disappointing. I saw it in IMAX 3D but not HFR, and I was gonna do HFR over the weekend. I enjoyed it in the first two, is it particularly worse on this one?

Not sure if this is an HFR artifact, but I joticed quite a bit of judder when I watched it?! I assumed this was a 3D thing...which I'm not a fan of.

So how would you guys recommend setting the movie? I'm not a big 3D fan, or at least I think a good movie is good without 3D,, so that isn't a priority. But I certainly don't want artifact.

Being that I can only really see out of one eye, 3D is useless. I always prefer 2D over 3

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Curious to know, who would have their children's children watch the Hobbit trilogy before the LOTR trilogy?

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My kids will read the books before watching any of them

Agree that Beorn wasn't in the battle enough. As I recall in the book, he killed Bolg after Bolg had killed Thorin.

Overall it was a good movie. Loved the scenes in Dol Guldur.

Was there anything about "were-worms" in the other books of Tolkien or were those just for the movie?

Beorn killed bolg in the book.

Legolas kills him in the movie.

Not a fan of the HFR, but IMAX was pretty cool to see it in.

It was Okay for me, better than the first 2, but I still think it falls short of the LOTR trilogy, even ROTK. It is still just kind of goofy and the CHI is pretty meh to me.

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I think most people outside of big Lord of the Ringsfans, just didn't connect with these and for good reason.

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Funny, I would have said the exact opposite. Most of those who liked these movies are not LOTR fans. We may have an appetite for long moves, but we also expect them to tell a good story that we've read many times.

Now that I've seen all three, my opinion is unchanged... like Powerbelly, I think this could have been two really good movies, but three gave them too much time to "have fun" with the script. The last was the best; even though it technically did the most "stretching", at least what it was stretching was an action-packed battle rather than a straightforward journey.

Thought the movie was fantastic. Ended perfectly unlike ROTK, which ran 45 minutes after the ring was destroyed which was ridiculous.

As for the cgi complaints, thats like complaining about a girl with a fantastic rack because one hangs a little lowere than the other. Some people just dont know how to enjoy a movie.

It was enjoyable and my kids liked it, but the battle, the whole focus of the film, was completely disjointed.

I couldn't wait to see the 3 Lord of the Ring movies and have re-watched them many times.

This last Hobbit movie was just a big bag of meh. Bad comic relief. Scenes/characters inserted to give a nod to the book, but with next to no backstory given (LoTR had similar scenes, but they managed to give you a bit of backstory -- you know, actually tell a story).

Scenes that just went on forever.

Battle scenes that were the same thing over and over again.

HEY GUYS THORIN IS STARTING TO ACT JUST LIKE SMAUG LET'S TAKE A 10 MINUTE SCENE TO REALLY HAMMER THAT HOME IN CASE THE AUDIENCE MISSED IT.

And when you CGI things up so much and make armies that can grow larger by the click of a mouse, you at least need to make the odds and how they shift believable. They look to be completely over-run... but 5 dwarves enter the fight and suddenly everything is turned around.

Watchable, and could have been entertaining, but not at 2+ hours.... It was like the Tolkien version of Wolf of Wall Street... A decent story just stretched wayyyyy to thin without any depth.

Good game for people that suffer from light induced seizures. Galadriel vs Sauron was pretty rough.

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1) Legolas running up a broken bridge. That is a physical impossibility.

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1) Legolas running up a broken bridge. That is a physical impossibility.

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For humans, yeah.

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so, i never read the book. what are the five armies?

• Dwarves
• Humans
• Elves
• Orcs
• ??Eagles -or-
• ??Bats

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so, i never read the book. what are the five armies?

• Dwarves
• Humans
• Elves
• Orcs
• ??Eagles -or-
• ??Bats

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Dwarves

Men

Elves

Eagles

Orcs/wargs/bats

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so, i never read the book. what are the five armies?

• Dwarves
• Humans
• Elves
• Orcs
• ??Eagles -or-
• ??Bats

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Dwarves

Men

Elves

Eagles

Orcs/wargs/bats

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Thought it was dwarves, men, elves, Azog's Orc army and Bolg's orc army from Gundabad.

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so, i never read the book. what are the five armies?

• Dwarves
• Humans
• Elves
• Orcs
• ??Eagles -or-
• ??Bats

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Men

Elves

Eagles

Orcs/wargs/bats

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Thought it was dwarves, men, elves, Azog's Orc army and Bolg's orc army from Gundabad.

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Not unless it was PG's intent to change the meaning from the event in the book. In the book, there was no separate army marching down from Gundabad (if I recall correctly, the books only mention Gundabad as a place where wargs are bred). Tolkien lumped the goblins/wargs/bats together as one army from various tribes of goblins from the Misty Mountains (where the goblin king (the Great Goblin) had just been killed) and the surrounding mountains in the North.

Interesting. Thx. Been too long.

I have to agree with the OP in the sense that this was the best Hobbit movie. Thoroughly enjoyed it, and I'm not the biggest fan, though I did enjoy the LOTR trilogy. It felt much more substantial than the others. I particularly enjoyed the way it ended and found myself eager to re-watch Fellowship.

I've never read the book, so I have no opinion on that issue.

Oh, and they had the very best 3d effect I've ever seen. When the wraiths appear in front of Sauron and float towards the screen, those MFers were "in" the theater. Very, very cool stuff. That whole fight was pretty fantastic.

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I have to agree with the OP in the sense that this was the best Hobbit movie. Thoroughly enjoyed it, and I'm not the biggest fan, though I did enjoy the LOTR trilogy. It felt much more substantial than the others. I particularly enjoyed the way it ended and found myself eager to re-watch Fellowship.

I've never read the book, so I have no opinion on that issue.

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Damn! Substantial? Do you like twirling fights?

Well, substantial in the sense that part 1 was "start walking" and part 2 was "walk some more."

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Well, substantial in the sense that part 1 was "start walking" and part 2 was "walk some more."

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The story is about a journey, not a climactic battle of CG armies.

TexAgs mobile website is awful.

I never saw The Lovely Bones so I can't comment on that... but excluding that one, this is the worst Peter Jackson movie on his resume, with Part 2 coming in right behind it. (Though to be fair Dead Alive is a guilty pleasure of mine).

Just no heart in it whatsoever, completely different from the LoTR trilogy. Felt like just going through the CGI motions. Go here, have massive CGI fight. Go there, have twirly CGI fight. Go here, have another massive CGI fight.

The Gandalf/Sarumon fight in the first movie 15 years ago was done better than anything in The Hobbit.