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Maybe...

Hope they don't make Bush look like an idiot. He's not a great public speaker, but he's not an idiot.

Not sure about Carell as Rumsfeld, but that is probably because of my intense dislike of Rummy while I like Carell.
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Definitely sounds like Rockwell nailed the accent. Took me a sec to realize it was him. Way better than Julie Roberts's horrible accent in Charlie Wilson's War.
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I'll watch it but it has flop written all over it.
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They can take all my money. I'm in for this one.
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looks like a tarantino movie
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I'll bet you any amount of money this not only ends up as a Best Picture nominee, but Bale earns a Best Actor nominee as well. It may not clean up at the box office, but's it's going to be an awards contendor for sure.
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I'd actually have taken that bet a few years ago, now the category has too many nominees.
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This had better feature Steve Carell meeting Sadam Hussein as portrayed by Jeffrey Tambor.
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I'll definitely go see this one. Hopefully they make fun of the "Mission Accomplished" banner.
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How come? Great acting, or simply because it's likely to put POTUS and VICE in a bad light.
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Mainly because of The Big Short pedigree, which was phenomenal, and it's from the same team. But also because Bale looks to be operating on another level in a completely unexpected role. That, and the buzz is super strong in general. If anything, it simply has that Oscar "vibe."
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Gotcha, Big Short pedigree makes sense. Great movie. Appreciate your reply.
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Bale's dedication to his roles is impressive.
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I saw this tonight and was surprised by how unimpressed I was.

The performances were great, but the editing was pretty wanky and a bit hard to follow. There didn't seem to be a central theme, lesson or moral to the story. No central thread. My mother fell asleep numerous times. It's like they were trying to channel The Big Short, but they failed to create that sense of you hearing it from the guys and gals in the room, so it came off as an unsourced hitjob. They even had a weird early-credit scene where they tried to say it was all based on facts, but didn't explain who the sources of those facts were, and they said it in a very arrogant manner. It just had a lot of issues.

I wouldn't encourage anyone see this movie. I wish I'd seen the new Spider-Man instead.
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It's a weird movie for sure, and while I agree with Aggie_Journalist for the most part, I might have liked it a bit more than he did.

First off, Bale should win an Oscar for his portrayal of Cheney. His transformation is uncanny and absolutely spot-on. Echoing AJ's sentiment, the entire cast is also nails, it's just that the material isn't quite up to par. While it's all DEFINITELY a liberal hit job, it doesn't really do a good job of making it all gel. Case in point, my dad is as hardcore conservative as they come, but he actually liked the movie despite its bent. You kind of tend to understand - if not outright agree with - a decent amount of what Cheney is doing. And don't get me wrong, it paints him and the Bush administration in a terrible light, shows Cheney doing some abhorrent sh*t, and he definitely chooses power above all in the end, but you also at least understand his motivation. It's like in one moment writer/director Adam McKay seems to be blaming school shootings and even the California wild fires on Cheney in eye-rolling fashion, but then in other moments also seems to be making him a sympathetic villain if not a hero at times (even if ironically, though it doesn't quite come across as ironic as McKay maybe wants it to be).

Anyway, despite its muddled narrative, it was honestly better than I thought it'd be, given the recent wave of mixed reviews and the fact that I thought seeing it with my ultra conservative parents was going to be a bit of a disaster. It's an interesting story told in an - at times - clever way, that I think anyone can appreciate. My parents totally got all the digs and rolled with the punches, and while a lot of the digs land effectively, it's just not that effective in bringing it all home in the way McKay is aiming for. That, and it's only mildly funny at times. I think I half-chuckled maybe twice, not nearly as much as I did in The Big Short, which I loved.

All of this is a long way of saying that I wouldn't see this in the theater - unless you want to see Bale's lock of an Oscar nomination performance before the awards circuit - otherwise I'd say you're probably better off catching it on cable/streaming.
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I agree with the above, pretty much. (Journalist)

The movie got a little too "cute" and gimmicky for my taste. The meta / fourth wall-breaking stuff is fun for a bit, but this movie just hits you over the head with it.

And that really weird gag in the middle of the movie where it cuts to credits went on for way too long. It was a good little joke I guess, but it went on for what felt like five minutes. We get the joke, and it's not nearly clever enough to need to drag out that long.

Overall I was pretty meh on it, except for the solid acting by Bale.

Also, I still couldn't tell you why we went to Iraq.
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Also, while Bale was great, have to disagree with him winning an Oscar. Rami Malek is far more deserving. The weight gain is impressive but it's not the Academy Award for Method Acting. IMO.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Also, I still couldn't tell you why we went to Iraq.

I thought that was one of the most effective parts/through-lines of the film - underlining just how much of a bone-headed decision invading Iraq was. In other words, yeah, I still couldn't tell you *why* either - in any logical sense - but I thought it did a good job explaining why THEY wanted to, if that makes sense. Or at least why the movie versions of those characters wanted to.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Also, while Bale was great, have to disagree with him winning an Oscar. Rami Malek is far more deserving. The weight gain is impressive but it's not the Academy Award for Method Acting. IMO.

It'll be between the two of them for sure.
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Even that felt like it was rushed though.

They had some regular folks who said they'd be more comfortable fighting a country rather than a terrorist organization. Is that really all we get? Felt like we needed a bit more.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Did you see Bohemian Rhapsody yet?
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Not yet. I need to, though.
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It's odd that McKay and Ferrell went up against each other at the box office. They're both Gary Sanchez productions. Why would they want to do that?

In any case, they're clearly stronger together. They need to stop *****footing around and get to Step Brothers 2.
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I wonder if Ferrell is interested in, or has any aptitude for writing/directing. He's starting to get a little up their in age to keep doing the style of comedy he does.
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This is what they need to do next...

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This is what they need to do next...




That movie would trigger the politics board so bad that the atf would have to ban it
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I saw a different trailer than this also and have a question: is this a comedy or bio flick? True or satire? I'm struggling to get it. Even this trailer which seemed a bit more serious makes it seem toungue in cheek - portrayal of W and the "he's the man" song.

Just don't get it.
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TCTTS said:

This is what they need to do next...


This sounds like Canadian Bacon II
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Best part was the mid-credits scene. That was really funny.

Other than that, I didn't care for this movie due to the somewhat ridiculous over the top style. (I didn't really like The Big Short either for the same reasons). I didn't like the narration throughout (although how that tied in at the end was interesting) and I didn't like how scattershot the plot was.
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I would never even think to wait around for a post-credits for this movie.

What was it?
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They went back to the focus group and the guy in the Bucs jersey had one more complaint, that the movie was very liberally biased, and calls them "libtards." Another guy is like "well, it had facts, so that makes it liberal?" They end up fighting and one of the women turns to another one and says "I can't wait for the next Fast and Furious movie, it looks so lit."
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