The Witcher (Netflix Series)
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Last: 6 yr ago by FightinTexasAg15
Looks like they're starting at the beginning... Nice. Hopefully they give a good budget to the non-humans in the show, especially Duny seeing how important he is to the big picture. As well although unlikely I wish they would follow the books' format and let the first couple of seasons be anthology(short story) episodes and then get into the larger narrative when all the characters have been named/fleshed out.
Lastly the toughest and most critical cast yet to be named is Dandelion, they need to nail the casting on that damsel in distress/womanizing SOB if the tone is going to work as well as the books and games. I'm talking Peter Dinklage level delivery on his wit and lines.
Still need to play the games but after reading the books but do I have high hopes for the show.
Lastly the toughest and most critical cast yet to be named is Dandelion, they need to nail the casting on that damsel in distress/womanizing SOB if the tone is going to work as well as the books and games. I'm talking Peter Dinklage level delivery on his wit and lines.
Still need to play the games but after reading the books but do I have high hopes for the show.
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Where do I start with the books?
Where do I start with the books?
bearamedic99 said:
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Where do I start with the books?
Full guide to the Witcher series here.
The first book is the "The Last Wish", I would recommend starting there just going in book order. Like I mentioned above the first few books are a collection of short stories and they all eventually intertwine into a large epic narrative.
The way I understand it the games take place several years after the books end, and the author doesn't consider them canon(pettiness since he sold the rights outright, for no percentage)
The books are amazing, but Witcher 3 might also be one of the best video games of all time. Really excited about this project
hunter2012 said:bearamedic99 said:
thread title needs stats. Staph, please add stars.
Where do I start with the books?
Full guide to the Witcher series here.
The first book is the "The Last Wish", I would recommend starting there just going in book order. Like I mentioned above the first few books are a collection of short stories and they all eventually intertwine into a large epic narrative.
The way I understand it the games take place several years after the books end, and the author doesn't consider them canon(pettiness since he sold the rights outright, for no percentage)
The Last Wish is fantastic. I've had trouble getting into the full-length novels (they probably deserve another try), but the short stories are excellent.
You can change your name, Danny Masterson, but we still know it's you.
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hph6203 said:
You can change your name, Danny Masterson, but we still know it's you.
I'm not sure if this is directed at me, or who Danny is.
So the rumors about them wanting to make Ciri black were untrue. The Witcher reddit page was in full zoo meltdown about 2 months ago over casting calls apparently . And they still aren't happy about how Yen looks
He's talking about how one of the actors looks eerily similar to him. He was on that 70s show, Eric's friend hyde..curly-fro hair and tinted glassesDVC2010 said:hph6203 said:
You can change your name, Danny Masterson, but we still know it's you.
I'm not sure if this is directed at me, or who Danny is.
Bjorn, at least in that pic, looks like Danny Masterson's identical twin. He's an actor from That 70's Show, The Ranch. He's a Scientologist and has been accused of rape by multiple women.
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First look of Henry Cavill as Geralt
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Not too bad, but they need the yellow eyes
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
Not impressed. Some good memes out there now, making it look like something you'd find at Spirit Halloween.
Witcher 3 spoiled me and now I only see Geralt with a beard.
Witcher 3 spoiled me and now I only see Geralt with a beard.
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He must be thinking "It's dark in here... need some Cat potion."
Drinking on set... there's no way this could be that bad.
Cavill needs more scars and bruises
Please don't mess this up Netflix.
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Interesting. The only person I can see playing Yen and that is simply because the game clearly went out of their way to make her look like a twin of hers is Kate Beckinsale.
KidDoc said:
Please don't mess this up Netflix.
Oh they will. Remember that this is a story about literal fantasy Eastern Europe where everyone is Slavic or British/Irish in look.
Behold, the woke cast:
Here is the showrunner lying to people about who they were going to cast and getting in some digs to people who want it to be faithful to the source material.
Expect the show to have some not so subtle references to racism and other social justice garbage. It is Netflix afterall.
The Polish and other Slavs will almost certainly end up hating this as it *******izes their culture.
https://i.imgur.com/gys0RBa.png
Ah yes. Triss who in every medium has been described as pale with fiery red hair is being portrayed by a tan chick with black hair.
wangus12 said:
Ah yes. Triss who in every medium has been described as pale with fiery red hair is being portrayed by a tan chick with black hair.
Mixed race I believe, half white and half black.
Just anothet example of a redhead with green eyes being replaced by a minority because of diversity despite the fact that the red hair/green eyes genetic phenotype is easily the rarest on the planet. It's so obvious that it's done because red hair/green eyes is unabashedly white and there is no getting around that.
https://i.imgur.com/gys0RBa.png
What is frustrating is they do not need to introduce diverse human races to delve into racism and prejudice in that universe. Between the oppression of elves and dwarves and magic users in general that is so abundant in the universe that is plenty to play the race card without making main characters into different human colors.Socially liberal NPC 888 said:KidDoc said:
Please don't mess this up Netflix.
Oh they will. Remember that this is a story about literal fantasy Eastern Europe where everyone is Slavic or British/Irish in look.
Behold, the woke cast:
Here is the showrunner lying to people about who they were going to cast and getting in some digs to people who want it to be faithful to the source material.
Expect the show to have some not so subtle references to racism and other social justice garbage. It is Netflix afterall.
The Polish and other Slavs will almost certainly end up hating this as it *******izes their culture.
I mean one of the main storylines in Witcher 2 is about elf oppression and rebellion!
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The story doesn't matter, only social justice does! This is standard for Hollywood now.
https://i.imgur.com/gys0RBa.png
Hollywood is a business. When a story such as this can accommodate a diverse cast, they're going to aim for a diverse cast. Not because of "social justice," but because of demographics.
A more racially diverse cast = a higher potential for a diverse audience.
A more diverse audience = a higher potential for more viewers.
More viewers = more money.
It's as simple as that. Though, no matter how many times I harp on this, some of you will only believe the narrative you want so desperately to be true.
A more racially diverse cast = a higher potential for a diverse audience.
A more diverse audience = a higher potential for more viewers.
More viewers = more money.
It's as simple as that. Though, no matter how many times I harp on this, some of you will only believe the narrative you want so desperately to be true.
Uhuh, so then explain why Black Panther had an all black cast if it's "just a business." I mean they are both fictional stories, so why not diversify the cast a bit and throw in some hispanics, asians, and whites into Black Panther?TCTTS said:
Hollywood is a business. When a story such as this can accommodate a diverse cast, they're going to aim for a diverse cast. Not because of "social justice," but because of demographics.
A more racially diverse cast = a higher potential for a diverse audience.
A more diverse audience = a higher potential for more viewers.
More viewers = more money.
It's as simple as that. Though, no matter how many times I harp on this, some of you will only believe the narrative you want so desperately to be true.
This is a story literally written about Polish (a country that is 98% ethnic Polish with the other 2% being whites from other parts of Europe) folklore yet they can't even be bothered to stay faithful to the source material. The showrunner flat out lied about who they were going to cast and it's clear as day that they wanted to cast a minority for Ciri but didn't because they go an enormous amount of blowback from ethnic Polish and Slavs who were angry they were purposely washing away their culture. You have no idea just how much the Polish themselves like the original story as it's a source of national pride for many there along the same lines that LOTR and the Chronicles of Narnia are for the UK.
This has nothing to do with viewers because the overwhelming majority of the people who care about The Witcher are white nerds who either read the books or played the video games. They've already lost most of them and without this group the show is likely going to tank because it doesn't have the kind of name recognition of Game of Thrones or LOTR. In every single nerd or scifi forum that I read, people are railing against this garbage. Forced diversity for the sake of diversity ruins the material.
https://i.imgur.com/gys0RBa.png
Socially liberal NPC 888 said:wangus12 said:
Ah yes. Triss who in every medium has been described as pale with fiery red hair is being portrayed by a tan chick with black hair.
Mixed race I believe, half white and half black.
Just anothet example of a redhead with green eyes being replaced by a minority because of diversity despite the fact that the red hair/green eyes genetic phenotype is easily the rarest on the planet. It's so obvious that it's done because red hair/green eyes is unabashedly white and there is no getting around that.
I know. I have red hair and green eyes
Socially liberal NPC 888 said:Uhuh, so then explain why Black Panther had an all black cast if it's "just a business." I mean they are both fictional stories, so why not diversify the cast a bit and throw in some hispanics, asians, and whites into Black Panther?TCTTS said:
Hollywood is a business. When a story such as this can accommodate a diverse cast, they're going to aim for a diverse cast. Not because of "social justice," but because of demographics.
A more racially diverse cast = a higher potential for a diverse audience.
A more diverse audience = a higher potential for more viewers.
More viewers = more money.
It's as simple as that. Though, no matter how many times I harp on this, some of you will only believe the narrative you want so desperately to be true.
This is a story literally written about Polish (a country that is 98% ethnic Polish with the other 2% being whites from other parts of Europe) folklore yet they can't even be bothered to stay faithful to the source material. The showrunner flat out lied about who they were going to cast and it's clear as day that they wanted to cast a minority for Ciri but didn't because they go an enormous amount of blowback from ethnic Polish and Slavs who were angry they were purposely washing away their culture. You have no idea just how much the Polish themselves like the original story as it's a source of national pride for many there along the same lines that LOTR and the Chronicles of Narnia are for the UK.
This has nothing to do with viewers because the overwhelming majority of the people who care about The Witcher are white nerds who either read the books or played the video games. They've already lost most of them and without this group the show is likely going to tank because it doesn't have the kind of name recognition of Game of Thrones or LOTR. In every single nerd or scifi forum that I read, people are railing against this garbage. Forced diversity for the sake of diversity ruins the material.
Just think about what you're typing. You're answering your own questions.
As Black Panther proved, and Disney/Marvel had hoped, there was a MASSIVELY underserved African American population that was dying for a blockbuster of their "own." Countless think-pieces, articles, and posts on this board analyzed this phenomenon ad nauseam. In other words, there's a very specific reason Black Panther is the number three movie of all time domestically.
Show Netflix the Polish equivalent in this country and they'll give you a primarily Polish cast. Except you know as well as I do that the Poles - as a demographic - aren't going to make or break viewership for this thing in any significant way. Poland as a country could officially denounce this series - or demand every citizen take the day off to watch it - and it wouldn't matter at all in the grand scheme of things.
As for "white nerds" being the primary consumers of the books/games, sure, but for Netflix, the point is to EXPAND their audience, not alienate everyone but white nerds. A show this big literally can't afford to be made for one demographic.
Honestly, I'm just talking basic common sense and economics here. I'm not for or against any of this. Your posts, on the other hand, are seething with hysteria and bias.
Totally get your point on the economics but Black Panther (the movie) completely downplayed the only white character (Martin Freeman) and misrepresented him in the movie on top of it. He is a major character in the BP comic arc that the movie was based on. He is essentially 1B or 1C character at least in that arc, yet no one who has not read the comic would know that. I know because I read it.TCTTS said:Socially liberal NPC 888 said:Uhuh, so then explain why Black Panther had an all black cast if it's "just a business." I mean they are both fictional stories, so why not diversify the cast a bit and throw in some hispanics, asians, and whites into Black Panther?TCTTS said:
Hollywood is a business. When a story such as this can accommodate a diverse cast, they're going to aim for a diverse cast. Not because of "social justice," but because of demographics.
A more racially diverse cast = a higher potential for a diverse audience.
A more diverse audience = a higher potential for more viewers.
More viewers = more money.
It's as simple as that. Though, no matter how many times I harp on this, some of you will only believe the narrative you want so desperately to be true.
This is a story literally written about Polish (a country that is 98% ethnic Polish with the other 2% being whites from other parts of Europe) folklore yet they can't even be bothered to stay faithful to the source material. The showrunner flat out lied about who they were going to cast and it's clear as day that they wanted to cast a minority for Ciri but didn't because they go an enormous amount of blowback from ethnic Polish and Slavs who were angry they were purposely washing away their culture. You have no idea just how much the Polish themselves like the original story as it's a source of national pride for many there along the same lines that LOTR and the Chronicles of Narnia are for the UK.
This has nothing to do with viewers because the overwhelming majority of the people who care about The Witcher are white nerds who either read the books or played the video games. They've already lost most of them and without this group the show is likely going to tank because it doesn't have the kind of name recognition of Game of Thrones or LOTR. In every single nerd or scifi forum that I read, people are railing against this garbage. Forced diversity for the sake of diversity ruins the material.
Just think about what you're typing. You're answering your own questions.
As Black Panther proved, and Disney/Marvel had hoped, there was a MASSIVELY underserved African American population that was dying for a blockbuster of their "own." Countless think-pieces, articles, and posts on this board analyzed this phenomenon ad nauseam. In other words, there's a very specific reason Black Panther is the number three movie of all time domestically.
Show Netflix the Polish equivalent in this country and they'll give you a primarily Polish cast. Except you know as well as I do that the Poles - as a demographic - aren't going to make or break viewership for this thing in any significant way. Poland as a country could officially denounce this series - or demand every citizen take the day off to watch it - and it wouldn't matter at all in the grand scheme of things.
As for "white nerds" being the primary consumers of the books/games, sure, but for Netflix, the point is to EXPAND their audience, not alienate everyone but white nerds. A show this big literally can't afford to be made for one demographic.
Honestly, I'm just talking basic common sense and economics here. I'm not for or against any of this. Your posts, on the other hand, are seething with hysteria and bias.
If BP can be misrepresented to distill it for one demographic then why can't The Witcher simply go with its origins? It's politically convenient for BP to be able to do this, but not so much for The Witcher.
To me, that sounds more like a story choice than a representation choice. There were already too many major characters to service in Wakanda alone.
Ask yourselves, does this sound like a company who gives two sh*ts about "social justice"? EVERY decision Netflix makes is a calculated effort designed to maximize viewership...
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"Because Netflix is a data company, they know exactly how their viewers watch things, so they can look at something you're writing and say, We know based on our data that if you do this, we will lose this many viewers. So it's a different kind of note-giving. It's not like, Let's discuss this and maybe I'm gonna win. The algorithm's argument is gonna win at the end of the day. So the question is do we want to make a creative decision at the risk of losing people. There was one episode we wrote that was just layer upon layer peeled back, and then reversed again. Which was a lot of fun to write and think of executing, but, like, halfway through the season, we're just losing a bunch of people on that kind of binging momentum. That's probably not a good move, you know? So it's a decision that was made 100 percent based on audience participation."
When I said Polish, I wasn't talking about Polish Americans genius. I was talking about Polish from Poland, though I'm sure ethnic Poles feel the same here as well. Also as far as I know, it's been embrace by most Slavs.TCTTS said:Socially liberal NPC 888 said:Uhuh, so then explain why Black Panther had an all black cast if it's "just a business." I mean they are both fictional stories, so why not diversify the cast a bit and throw in some hispanics, asians, and whites into Black Panther?TCTTS said:
Hollywood is a business. When a story such as this can accommodate a diverse cast, they're going to aim for a diverse cast. Not because of "social justice," but because of demographics.
A more racially diverse cast = a higher potential for a diverse audience.
A more diverse audience = a higher potential for more viewers.
More viewers = more money.
It's as simple as that. Though, no matter how many times I harp on this, some of you will only believe the narrative you want so desperately to be true.
This is a story literally written about Polish (a country that is 98% ethnic Polish with the other 2% being whites from other parts of Europe) folklore yet they can't even be bothered to stay faithful to the source material. The showrunner flat out lied about who they were going to cast and it's clear as day that they wanted to cast a minority for Ciri but didn't because they go an enormous amount of blowback from ethnic Polish and Slavs who were angry they were purposely washing away their culture. You have no idea just how much the Polish themselves like the original story as it's a source of national pride for many there along the same lines that LOTR and the Chronicles of Narnia are for the UK.
This has nothing to do with viewers because the overwhelming majority of the people who care about The Witcher are white nerds who either read the books or played the video games. They've already lost most of them and without this group the show is likely going to tank because it doesn't have the kind of name recognition of Game of Thrones or LOTR. In every single nerd or scifi forum that I read, people are railing against this garbage. Forced diversity for the sake of diversity ruins the material.
Just think about what you're typing. You're answering your own questions.
As Black Panther proved, and Disney/Marvel had hoped, there was a MASSIVELY underserved African American population that was dying for a blockbuster of their "own." Countless think-pieces, articles, and posts on this board analyzed this phenomenon ad nauseam. In other words, there's a very specific reason Black Panther is the number three movie of all time domestically.
Show Netflix the Polish equivalent in this country and they'll give you a primarily Polish cast. Except you know as well as I do that the Poles - as a demographic - aren't going to make or break viewership for this thing in any significant way. Poland as a country could officially denounce this series - or demand every citizen take the day off to watch it - and it wouldn't matter at all in the grand scheme of things.
As for "white nerds" being the primary consumers of the books/games, sure, but for Netflix, the point is to EXPAND their audience, not alienate everyone but white nerds. A show this big literally can't afford to be made for one demographic.
Honestly, I'm just talking basic common sense and economics here. I'm not for or against any of this. Your posts, on the other hand, are seething with hysteria and bias.
So it's to expand the audience? Then explain LOTR and it's all white cast and why it did so well? These are some of the top grossing movies of all time so you can't tell me they weren't massively successful despite zero diversity in the cast.
You really have no idea just how rabid The Witcher fanbase is do you? Had you even heard of it prior to Netflix saying they were going to do it? The series has a huge fanbase from both the books and the games. Alienating these people is an incredibly stupid decision because they would naturally come with a built in income stream. It wouldn't be hard to market the show as a massive big budget fantasy series either and you could use all of the nerds to spread free advertising. Now all of these people are going to be working against you, so clearly this was a business decision.
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There weren't in the comic. That's partly my point.TCTTS said:
To me, that sounds more like a story choice than a representation choice. There were already too many major characters to service in Wakanda alone.
It was BP, Freeman, Killmonger, and a rival to BP's dad - his chief of security if you will (who was not represented in the movie). I don't even recall if BP's sister was a character at all in the comic. Maybe she was but she was over exaggerated in the movie, if so.
Regardless, I really don't care. I'm only arguing because I've had wine. Cheers!
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