Actually, this reminds me, were you guys aware that the "past" segment/second half of part two originally took place in '67 instead of a redo of '55? I've had this draft forever and never read it, but here it is for anyone who's curious...

https://we.tl/t-KLBj9fpc5Q

For the record, if I remember correctly, Zemeckis and Bob Gale obviously created the story for part two together, but I'm pretty sure Gale then wrote this draft while Zemeckis went and filmed Who Framed Roger Rabbit (as was the plan). In other words, while the story itself was conceived by both men before Zemeckis left to do Rabbit, this was Gale's draft PRIOR to Zemeckis then coming back into the fold after Rabbit, giving all his notes, and them switching out '67 for a redo of '55. But '67 was the original plan...

The link is blocked at work, but I read the summary here.

https://backtothefuture.fandom.com/wiki/Back_to_the_Future_Part_II_first_draft_screenplay

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Out of place in 1967, Marty ends up in jail. Lorraine posts his $500 bond and cancels her plans for a romantic weekend with George in San Francisco. Marty realizes that his birthdate is nine months away and that he has, once again, endangered his existence.

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That's pretty interesting. One the one hand, it was cool to see events from the first movie from a different perspective, but on the other, it would've been kinda neat to see their take on the 60's.

For 13 -year-old jm94, it was the moment Lea Thompson was first on screen.

Bruce Almighty said:

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Return of the King had like 15.

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You're confusing climax with denouement.

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Btw, for the record, as much as I love part two - I was OBSESSED with hover boards and 2015 Hill Valley as a kid - that whole plot has never made any damn sense to me. Fixing something in the future is one of the weirdest, most inconsequential plots to build a movie on. Once they're there, and the whole sports almanac thing with Biff is BRILLIANT, and I love all of it, I just wish they had figured out another way into the movie/the future other than, "We've got to do something about your kids!"

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I never really thought about how weak a premise that was until now. I wonder if it was originally just a throw away line at the end of the first movie. That would make sense if sequels weren't originally planned. Then once they started writing II were they forced down that path?

It doesn't really bother me though, since the (once) future was so cool. I think II and III are, while not the greatness of the original, both worthy sequels.

Some NSFW language in there.

That's exactly what happened. The ending was thrown in as more of a joke than an actual setup for a sequel.

They always say that had they known they'd make a real sequel, they never would've put Jennifer in the car.

The climax of rotk is Sam's surprise proposal to frodo at the cracks of doom

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As someone who's been working on a short film (animated) for a while, you don't realize how ridiculously hard it is to tell a good story till you try to do it.

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AMEN.

A deleted scene from BTTF3?

Also, that Toyota pickup looks fly to this day.

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Man I love threads like this. As someone who's been working on a short film (animated) for a while, you don't realize how ridiculously hard it is to tell a good story till you try to do it.

Related, good blog post on BTTF and the story here (some other great posts there as well):
https://plotdevices.co/blogs/blog/back-to

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Marty goes to the dance with his mom and attempts to orchestrate a heroic moment for George. But not before writing a letter to Doc to warn him that in the future he's going to get shot by terrorists (seriously, how is this movie not terrible?).

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MSFC Aggie said:

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Best movie ever?

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If I absolutely had to choose just one, this would be it.

I was obsessed with the DeLorean as a kid. They didn't have all the toy time machines that you could order with the click of a button like today, so any toy car I had became one.

This one takes me back to my childhood every time. And it's still my favorite sound track.

Don't kink shame!

Man, have I got a hankering to watch this whole trilogy now. Figures they're not streaming anywhere.

Whoa...

https://www.slashfilm.com/alternate-back-to-the-future-ending-early-script/

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Whoa...

https://www.slashfilm.com/alternate-back-to-the-future-ending-early-script/

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Knew about the fridge and the A-Bomb, but the coke thing is new.

I knew the original time machine was gonna be a fridge, but not about any of that original ending.

Aside: I wish they'd stop *****footing around the Stolz footage and put it into the bluray. That would certainly get fans to buy it. I know I would.

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Man, have I got a hankering to watch this whole trilogy now. Figures they're not streaming anywhere.

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These are on Netflix now, btw. Great Scott!

Watched the trilogy last month.

I just want to say I'm proud of you Entertainment Board. Not one single "your mom" joke amid all this talk of climaxing.

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For 13 -year-old jm94, it was the moment Lea Thompson was first on screen.

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What did 14yr old jm94 think of Howard the Duck?

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100%. They are 30 years in the past, they could fix everything without having to travel to the future. Though maybe Doc was worried it was so far ahead that they wouldn't quite remember HOW to fix it, I guess.

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When you own a time machine, every problem looks like it can be solved by time travel.

"I'm out of eggs. Should I walk to the grocery store across the street? Or time travel to yesterday when I had eggs in the fridge? ... To the time machine!"

Which sounds like the setup for a Rick and Morty Episode...

I always wondered why Marty changing George wouldn't have changed Marty until I saw Endgame. Stay with me on this. Marty makes George a more confident guy. George ends becoming a more confident/successful man. As a result, his daughter and oldest son are more well adjusted. Stands to reason then that Marty would also have been raised differently, thereby changing his personality substantially.

Except that, as explained by the Hulk, the present Marty comes from is his past, and the past he goes into his his present. So basically, Marty's personality can't be changed because the present can't change the past.

So Marty actually has to return to an alternate 1985, not the main 1985.

Speaking of climax. Even when marty got his folks back together it still would have changed enough were marty wouldn't have existed because a different sperm would have impregnated his mom. See movie: About Time.

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I always wondered why Marty changing George wouldn't have changed Marty until I saw Endgame. Stay with me on this. Marty makes George a more confident guy. George ends becoming a more confident/successful man. As a result, his daughter and oldest son are more well adjusted. Stands to reason then that Marty would also have been raised differently, thereby changing his personality substantially.

Except that, as explained by the Hulk, the present Marty comes from is his past, and the past he goes into his his present. So basically, Marty's personality can't be changed because the present can't change the past.

So Marty actually has to return to an alternate 1985, not the main 1985.

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