mathguy86 said:

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I just listened to The Fountain of Lamneth on Deep Tracks on the way into work. All 20 minutes of it. That may be the only time that song has every been played in its entirety on the radio.

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Neil's drum solo starting at 4:19...

Even his life leading up to to his passing was SO Neil....

I too respect the **** outta all those involved.

I find it funny that the Fear series starts with 3, 2, 1, then 4.

You mind posting your GH and deep cut Playlist?

A Playlist I have and enjoy is their instrumentals...well mostly instrumental...some lyrics. Just to name few:
Leave that thing alone
The camera eye
Jacobs ladder
La villa
Yyz
Where's my thing

schmiddy94 said:

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I find it funny that the Fear series starts with 3, 2, 1, then 4.

You mind posting your GH and deep cut Playlist?

A Playlist I have and enjoy is their instrumentals...well mostly instrumental...some lyrics. Just to name few:
Leave that thing alone
The camera eye
Jacobs ladder
La villa
Yyz
Where's my thing

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Main Monkey Business should be on that list.

KidDoc said:

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schmiddy94 said:

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I find it funny that the Fear series starts with 3, 2, 1, then 4.

You mind posting your GH and deep cut Playlist?

A Playlist I have and enjoy is their instrumentals...well mostly instrumental...some lyrics. Just to name few:
Leave that thing alone
The camera eye
Jacobs ladder
La villa
Yyz
Where's my thing

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Main Monkey Business should be on that list.

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Also Hope and Malignant Narcissism.

When I was running sound for our contemporary service, I used to put Hope in my pre-service "gathering music" playlist for my fellow Rush fans in the praise band.

I like to see Working Them Angels get some appreciation. That one has become a real favorite of mine over the years.

Re: Clockwork Angels....

I was personally so impressed by Clockwork Angels..... loved it. One of my favorite albums actually certainly the best (start to finish) from Rush imho since the mid 80s at least. And to do that at the end of their career - 38 years after the first album. Wow.

It was a complete concept album and not something they had really done before - they more often just had the one really long multi part songs usually on one side of an album back when that meant something. Or they had related tracks from different albums (like Cygnus X and By-Tor/Necromancer and the Fear themed songs). You could call some of their albums concept albums in that they had some pervasive theme. But CA was really a complete story beginning to end.

And there actually is a book that accompanies it - I've read it. Not sure how many did but I actually thoroughly enjoyed it and it brought some more depth to the story as heard through the music.

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From wiki: Peart was influenced to devise a story and lyrics set it in a dystopian steampunk-inspired world "lit only by fire", named after the same-titled book on the history of the Middle Ages by William Manchester and "driven by steam, intricate clockworks, and alchemy". Peart wrote a lyrical "chapter" for each of the album's twelve tracks, representing the mood or atmosphere of each track with its own symbol as depicted in the artwork.

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And then his writer friend of many years Kevin Anderson took all of that and created a book around it that follows the narrative of the tracks from the album.

A review on Amazon:

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Now here's a high-concept idea: a novel based on the new album by Rush, the popular rock band. Writer Anderson and Peart, Rush's drummer and lyricist, have been friends for more than two decades. Anderson takes the themes of Rush's songs and turns them into a very entertaining, elegantly written story of a boy on the cusp of manhood, living in a seemingly perfect society (thanks to "our loving Watchmaker," who controls, well, everything). The boy discovers that some dark truths lurk just beneath his world's perfect surface. Firmly planted in the steampunk subgenre, the book tells an epic-scale story, following young Owen Hardy as he leaves the village of his birth, travels to the legendary Crown City, and gets caught up in an adventure that shows him a world he never knew existed. Syme, who's designed album covers for many bands, including Rush, contributes several beautiful illustrations that capture the dark undercurrent of Anderson's story. This is a fine piece of dystopian fiction, and it will appeal to readers young and old. --David Pitt

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Here is the book:

https://www.amazon.com/Clockwork-Angels-Kevin-J-Anderson/dp/1770411216/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2Z26I4GWASA4M&keywords=clockwork+angels+book&qid=1579018439&sprefix=clockwork+angels%2Caps%2C173&sr=8-2



You'll notice every song from CA is either on my GH or Deep Cuts with the exception of BU2B (the flipside to the first single Caravan it means "brought up to believe") and BU2B2 which is a reprise of that song. I guess I'm not alone though - Rush actually didn't seem to like that song much either......in the CA tour second set they played the entire CA album in order with the exception of BU2B and BU2B2 with an entire backing string orchestra of like 7 people. I loved that show.

Completely agree - CA is my favorite behind Moving Pictures. It's a beautiful album, truly. The novelization is on my reading list.

G Martin 87 said:

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KidDoc said:

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schmiddy94 said:

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I find it funny that the Fear series starts with 3, 2, 1, then 4.

You mind posting your GH and deep cut Playlist?

A Playlist I have and enjoy is their instrumentals...well mostly instrumental...some lyrics. Just to name few:
Leave that thing alone
The camera eye
Jacobs ladder
La villa
Yyz
Where's my thing

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Main Monkey Business should be on that list.

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Also Hope and Malignant Narcissism.

When I was running sound for our contemporary service, I used to put Hope in my pre-service "gathering music" playlist for my fellow Rush fans in the praise band.

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thanks for the idea guys... I did not think of an Instrumental playlist. I've now added Rush Instrumentals.

Technically 2112: Overture is an instrumental too so I added it although it has a spoken line at the end leading into the main parts. And the 2112: Grand Finale is instrumental. Had to use a Live version where it is broken down by parts. And Limbo is another where Rush doesn't sing anyway. I left off Camera Eye and Jacobs Ladder as they do have lyrics.

I added the Live R30 Tour Overture - at 6:43 it has instrumental shortened versions of 6 songs from their first 6 albums which they opened the show with - Finding My Way, Anthem, Bastille Day, Passage to Bangkok, Cygnus X-1:Prologue, Cygnus X-1 Book II Hemispheres:Prologue.

There is also a Live Instrumental version of the Cygnus X-1 Prologue but it's covered in the R30 Overture.

Here is the playlist:
2112: Overture Live
2112: Grand Finale Live
La Villa Strangiato
YYZ
Where's My Thing?
Leave That Thing Alone
Limbo - technically includes some vocal "sounds" from Geddy and brief spoken word from Monster Mash but no lyrics
The Main Monkey Business
Hope
Malignant Narcissism
R30 Tour Overture

I did not include the various Live intro/outtros (Broons Bane, O'Malley's Break, Peke's Repose etc) or any of the many drum solos (seems like that should be a thing all it's own and not sure I would listen to drum solo after drum solo - lol - even though i'm a drummer except on a deep dive of youtubes or something).

O Baterista off Rio. I know you said you purposefully didn't add a drum solo but that would be a good one to add.

I realize your GH list is subjective, but I think it's missing songs that were actual "hits" for Rush.

In the Mood - top 40 hit in Canada, also released later as a live medley with Fly By Night.

Xanadu-one of their all time accomplishments

La Villa Strangiato - their first true instrumental. Classic Rock ranks it #2 on their Top 50 Rush songs list.

Marathon - the live version hit #6 on the mainstream rock charts.

Superconductor - was a single from Presto, hit #37 on Mainstrean Rock chart.

Summertime Blues - from Feedback, was a #30 hit on Mainstream Rock chart.

...and some of the songs on your deep cut list belong on a hit list instead IMO - Anthem, Bangkok, Mystic Rhythms (#21), Roll the Bones (#9), Ghost of a Chance (#2), Stick it Out (#1), Nobody's Hero (#9), and Test for Echo (#1).

There are a number of other charted songs too.

Almost all Rush is good Rush though.

Except this authority mispronounced his name every friggin' time.

Aggie87 said:

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I realize your GH list is subjective, but I think it's missing songs that were actual "hits" for Rush.

In the Mood - top 40 hit in Canada, also released later as a live medley with Fly By Night.

Xanadu-one of their all time accomplishments

La Villa Strangiato - their first true instrumental. Classic Rock ranks it #2 on their Top 50 Rush songs list.

Marathon - the live version hit #6 on the mainstream rock charts.

Superconductor - was a single from Presto, hit #37 on Mainstrean Rock chart.

Summertime Blues - from Feedback, was a #30 hit on Mainstream Rock chart.

...and some of the songs on your deep cut list belong on a hit list instead IMO - Anthem, Bangkok, Mystic Rhythms (#21), Roll the Bones (#9), Ghost of a Chance (#2), Stick it Out (#1), Nobody's Hero (#9), and Test for Echo (#1).

There are a number of other charted songs too.

Almost all Rush is good Rush though.

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I'm maybe a little more particular. And yes it's subjective but my GH is like greatest of the greats to me. Not just hits on some chart. Some of those are left off for a reason. And I purposefully was limiting to 30ish songs. Ended up 32.

Xanadu and Villa while great are left off because they are on my Magnum Opus list and I just wanted the long form songs there.

In the Mood, Superconductor and Marathon I just don't like much.

And I hate the cover album although Summertime Blues was the best of that album. But I never want to listen to it.

That's the main criteria for my GH. Songs I love and want to hear over and over regardless of their chart performance. Deep cuts is for a change of pace with other songs I like a lot.

It's not supposed to be definitive or fit everyone. Someone asked me to share it.

The only official Rush studio tracks not on any of their albums, I believe. The cheapest copy on Discogs goes for $1,600.00.

Great article and interview on his R40 kits (modern and old style) and his constant learning. I'm not a drummer but I have to think looking at the map of his kit that it's complicated as hell and not many could do it.

https://www.moderndrummer.com/article/january-2016-neil-peart/

mathguy86 said:

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Great article and interview on his R40 kits (modern and old style) and his constant learning. I'm not a drummer but I have to think looking at the map of his kit that it's complicated as hell and not many could do it.

https://www.moderndrummer.com/article/january-2016-neil-peart/

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Well as a drummer looking at those sets is mesmerizing and maybe a bit intimidating but looks like a hell of a lot of fun too. I could never make use of it all really - that he does is incredible. But it would be fun to just sit and jam on and experiment for sure.

Although the thing about drumming is - no matter how big the kit is you are technically never utilizing more than 4 things at once (two hands, two feet). Well he is going from drum to drum and hitting different cymbals too but you get my point. In reality a set that big is often broken down into different subsections for different elements of songs. And a lot of stuff is also used just for solos that he has kinda worked out the basic flow of beforehand. If you watch him you'll see him stick to certain parts of the kit for certain songs and then go to some other element for a specific purpose and then back to the main part, etc. And in a solo he tends to work one section, then another, and keeps moving around within the set even adjusting to sit a different direction for parts of solos.....as he said "It's a four-drum setup. Look at the middle everything spins off from there." Mosts sets are that - every drummer looks at the basics first (snare, 1 or 2 bass, hi-hat) thats centers you and then everything else is working off that

Anyway not to diminish from it because he is incredible.

My biggest set I ever owned had - with equivalent labels of the El Darko set shown

1 bass drum K
1 hi-hat 3
1 snare A
2 rack toms on the bass F and G
1 floor tom I
3 roto toms (or concert toms) above the hit hat side like BCD
2 ride cymbals (one heavy ride) where 1 and 8 are
2 crash cymbals where 2 and 5 are
1 splash cymbal like 4 but centered above F and G for mine

He has 3 more drums, 5 more cymbals, an extra bass and double pedal and some of the other percussion stuff. And the R40 set is even bigger.

Aggie87 said:

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The only official Rush studio tracks not on any of their albums, I believe. The cheapest copy on Discogs goes for $1,600.00.

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Woulda been sweet to put that Buddy Holly cover as a bonus track on Feedback

I've been listening to the Rush Tribute on Sirius XM deep tracks. It's been fantastic and goes through Sunday for those who haven't listened. It's truly been deep. Studio and concert versions of Anthem, Bastille Day, 2112, By-Tor and Xanadu regularly.

It's also a bit hilarious. I have now heard The Fountain of Lamneth 2 times today and 5 total. Pretty sure it never was in a concert set list beyond that one album and never on the radio. Poor Neil must be laughing his ass off at this.

One of my favorite Rush CDs is Red Stars of the Solar Federation...not an official release of course - and I actually bought it in College Station back in '90 or so. But I like the raw/live nature of it with the overly loud crowd noise. Listened to it all throughout my time at A&M while studying.




https://mikeladano.com/tag/red-stars-of-the-solar-federation/

Yeah I've been listening quite a bit to SXM on my laptop while working. Originally the all Rush was going to be through Wednesday, then it was extended to this Sunday....now I just heard it's been extended again to next Wednesday.

It's been good, but some of the songs I've heard more than others, as you pointed out with Fountains of Lamneth, have been weird. I've heard Rivendell and I Think I'm Going Bald several times. Lots of original album stuff, which Neil isn't on. Hold Your Fire songs seem to be in heavy rotation. Very little is being played from Counterparts and later. Maybe I'm just listening at the wrong times.

As someone mentioned earlier there was serious talk about a LV residency at MGM - 4 shows back to back weeks. There was also wishful talk that as long as Alex's arthritis wasn't acting up, they may go out with Dave Grohl on drums. Alex and Geddy really wanted to tour again but Neil was done. Sounded like they decided in the end they could not go without Neil.

Now maybe they rethink that - as a tribute rather than a replacement. One can dream....

All: A question for the group...

In spite of being a diehard fan, I've never read any of his books. Ghost Rider sounds great for what it is, but I selfishly didn't want to read it and come away down. I'm sure I could relate it to losses I've had and challenges I face, yet I was apprehensive.

So, as I prepare for several long trips of my own over the next few months, what would you guys say as far as tapping into Neil's literary offerings? I trust this group more than Amazon reviews.

Thanks.

I loved Ghost Rider. It's about healing as much as anything.

He also wrote a book about cycling in West Africa called The Masked Rider. Also very insightful.

Highly recommend both.

Thanks, Adam.

Dana Carvey or Danny Carey?