Make a diverse playlist on spotify. Play it and then once it is over you will discover all kinds of greatness you never knew about that should be tailored to suit your list/tastes.Junkhead said:boy09 said:
There's so much music available these days. Im convinced that if you can't find what you're looking for, you're just not looking hard enough.
But yeah, if you're hoping to hear it on the radio, good luck with that. I haven't listened to terrestrial radio in years.
I think there is TOO much music available these days because anyone with a computer can record music and upload it to streaming services. It's hard for me to find new music at times because I don't even know where to start and I do not have patience to sort through all the bull**** to find the good stuff. Most of the newer bands I've found have come from recommendations either by friends or established artists I appreciate.
Will rock music ever have a renaissance?
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I discovered Airbourne that way. Australian rock band that sounds like Bon Scott era AC/DC.
FWIW, that was a remake but I agree pretty cheesy stuff.Quote:
But there is someone lame to me about 25 year olds singing about smoking in the boys room at school.
Overall Motley Crue has held up pretty good compared to some of the other hair bands of the era.
Scotty Appleton said:
These guys say **** rock being dead
Idles
Note to self: Don't ever listen to this guy's music suggestions ever again.
AggieChemist said:
The darkness dropped their first album like 20 years ago now.
Guess I'm a bit behind the curve. They did put out a new album last year, however.
The last great rock revival between 2000-2005 came with the strokes, white stripes, yeah yeah yeahs, old KOL (totally different than sex on fire KOL), and the beginning the Black Keys. That period kicked ass and those bands rocked live. Nobody saw that coming with the rap rock and faux grunge popular at the time.
Yeah Wolfmother had their 1st album around then which was great as well. Also The Killers, Jet & Muse came out around then.
Rick Beato talks quite a bit about this - he was a rock music producer and was influenced from the 70 (and earlier) up to the early 2000.
Take a look at this video. Has a bit of "get off my yard" to him in this, but I think he's got something to it. His statement is rock is best when it's imperfect. Slightly off beat, out of tune, etc. Now all Pro-Tools, etc.
Take a look at this video. Has a bit of "get off my yard" to him in this, but I think he's got something to it. His statement is rock is best when it's imperfect. Slightly off beat, out of tune, etc. Now all Pro-Tools, etc.
Apache said:
Yeah Wolfmother had their 1st album around then which was great as well. Also The Killers, Jet & Muse came out around then.
Wolf mother opened for GnR a couple years ago and SUCKED live. GnR was badass, though.
AggieChemist said:Apache said:
Yeah Wolfmother had their 1st album around then which was great as well. Also The Killers, Jet & Muse came out around then.
Wolf mother opened for GnR a couple years ago and SUCKED live. GnR was badass, though.
May have been the venue. I saw The Cult open for GNR on that same tour and they were boring. I've seen Wolfmother headline some smaller venues and they've been great every time.
I'm convinced the increase in 'live' recordings, DVD's and now videos on YouTube have done more to kill newer good rock music off than anything else.
I heard Eddie Vedder say this on Bill Simmons a few weeks ago, but he was totally right: the thing that makes a rock show so special is actually going and watching 4-5 people play their asses off for 2-3 hours. I've been to EDM shows, etc... they are neat, but man... just watching a dude spin records is nothing like watching a rock band play hard and put everything they have into the music.
The problem in my opinion is Youtube and everything else gives everyone a cheap viable alternative to 'experience' good rock performances without really actually experiencing a show and as a result interest has waned. Again, I think it started the waning interest started as a consequence of live DVD's and albums getting released like hot cakes in the late 90's and mid-00's... but YouTube has made the effect worse.
I heard Eddie Vedder say this on Bill Simmons a few weeks ago, but he was totally right: the thing that makes a rock show so special is actually going and watching 4-5 people play their asses off for 2-3 hours. I've been to EDM shows, etc... they are neat, but man... just watching a dude spin records is nothing like watching a rock band play hard and put everything they have into the music.
The problem in my opinion is Youtube and everything else gives everyone a cheap viable alternative to 'experience' good rock performances without really actually experiencing a show and as a result interest has waned. Again, I think it started the waning interest started as a consequence of live DVD's and albums getting released like hot cakes in the late 90's and mid-00's... but YouTube has made the effect worse.
I don't give a **** - I loved Lynyrd Skynyrd right to the end.FAT SEXY said:
Piecemeal bands are prevalent.. I can understand replacing a member or two in the short term, but gradually progressing in this vein over decades is kinda lame. Things fade, don't fight it... Looking at you Skynyrd.
Screw that - grunge was what set rock* back and its never fully recovered. It was the miserable hangover after a three plus decade long party. We had a huge long run of success that spanned multiple generations from Bill Haley to Jerry Lee Lewis to Cream, Steppenwolf, Ted Nugent, Queen, AC/DC, Metallica, and GNR. Then along came a bunch of suicidaly miserable turds and in just a few years they drove people away. People didn't stop partying though, so they just switched over to grossly inferior forms of party music like rap.mazag08 said:expre said:
There is a large contingent of this board that wishes the only thing on the radio would be Pear Jam and Soundgarden. Those people are mostly stuck in 90's nostalgia, because that style was very brief.
BTW, I still find good new bands but those guys are always just getting by. Hardly any of them will ever play to huge crowds and make lots of money. In fact, the minute a rock band STARTS to have a little success, the fickle fans start calling them either "sellouts" or "derivative" or some other pompous ******bag term.
* Real rock is guitar driven, aggressive music that is FUN and gets you pumped up. Half the bands people call "rock" are pop or rap or some other genre. Lady ****ing Gaga and Beyonce are NOT rock.
No, MTV and the media hype machine labeling an amazing collection of bands and talent in one city after a ****ing fashion style did more damage than anything. It's not their fault they were forced into the spotlight when they didn't wanna be there like punk music before it.
Funny how a band like Pearl Jam still has a massive following despite not pandering to the fickle and close-minded public. They haven't made a great album in decades, but people still love them, regardless of pointless political beliefs and sensitive nancies getting offended so easily.
As for the comment about 40 year old white dudes being mad, I wonder what that person would say if this was about 90s east coast/west coast hip hop instead and the nostalgia involved, because it's no different. Neither can be dismissed, and amazing music came from both periods, whether you like either or not.
Funny how a band like Pearl Jam still has a massive following despite not pandering to the fickle and close-minded public. They haven't made a great album in decades, but people still love them, regardless of pointless political beliefs and sensitive nancies getting offended so easily.
As for the comment about 40 year old white dudes being mad, I wonder what that person would say if this was about 90s east coast/west coast hip hop instead and the nostalgia involved, because it's no different. Neither can be dismissed, and amazing music came from both periods, whether you like either or not.
Actually I'm not sure there was a worse rock music era than all the 80s hair bands and bad heavy metal. Bunch of crossdressing wankers.
You don't have to preach to me about grunge. I think this board is tired of my opinion on it. But it was the music that got the 90's kids into rock. It was enough of its own thing that fans felt like they were on the cusp of the new wave. But it was extremely boxed in and had nowhere to go.
For my generation, it was the post grunge late 90's stuff and nu metal. Which also got stale, but somehow has kept going (despite still sounding rather uninspiring).
Fast forward to 2010, kids that would have grown up with rock music were ignoring it.. because they were listening to Skrillex and Deadmau5.
It's really what led me in high school to getting into metal and hardcore. It was raw and energetic and creative compared to the crap show that had become commercial radio rock, and all the other crap that was being fed down our throats. Hearing Iced Earth for the first time really opened my eyes.
Here's some more suggestions for those of y'all searching. Mix of styles .
The Parlor Mob
Nothing But Thieves
The Kooks
As Lions
Dead Letter Circus
Avatar
Nothing More
Old 97's
Striking Matches
Fair to Midland (sadly broken up)
Asking Alexandria
Within Temptation
Amaranthe
And for those that think there's no metal that isn't screaming, check out Protest The Hero.
For my generation, it was the post grunge late 90's stuff and nu metal. Which also got stale, but somehow has kept going (despite still sounding rather uninspiring).
Fast forward to 2010, kids that would have grown up with rock music were ignoring it.. because they were listening to Skrillex and Deadmau5.
It's really what led me in high school to getting into metal and hardcore. It was raw and energetic and creative compared to the crap show that had become commercial radio rock, and all the other crap that was being fed down our throats. Hearing Iced Earth for the first time really opened my eyes.
Here's some more suggestions for those of y'all searching. Mix of styles .
The Parlor Mob
Nothing But Thieves
The Kooks
As Lions
Dead Letter Circus
Avatar
Nothing More
Old 97's
Striking Matches
Fair to Midland (sadly broken up)
Asking Alexandria
Within Temptation
Amaranthe
And for those that think there's no metal that isn't screaming, check out Protest The Hero.
I thought that garage sound of the mid 00s was rock's next big thing, but looking back it appears to be its last gasp.Johnny Danger said:
The last great rock revival between 2000-2005 came with the strokes, white stripes, yeah yeah yeahs, old KOL (totally different than sex on fire KOL), and the beginning the Black Keys. That period kicked ass and those bands rocked live. Nobody saw that coming with the rap rock and faux grunge popular at the time.
And those saying that this thread is just about people pining for the sound of their youth are missing the point. No one here is saying that a style of rock from a specific era should be revived. But music that's been around for well over fifty years nearing the apparent end of its lifespan is noteworthy.
The 80s (with a few exceptions) turned hard rock into pop. The 90s brought it back to its roots. When I listen to Pearl Jam, I hear a lot of Hendrix. Soundgarden is Black Sabbath and Zeppelin. People try to lump all of 90s rock in with Nirvana, but no other band really even sounded like them. 90s melded 70s punk and hard rock with 60s psychedelia. The late 80s turned into a bunch of bands trying to sound like each other. It turned corporate and became very formulaic. Of course, the same thing happened to grunge in the late 90s.
Neil Peart is dead, so the answer to the OP is no.
I don't think it's that...anything can sound good with headphones.Philo B 93 said:
Rock won't ever be like it was in the 80s when it crossed over and became Pop. Rock is better as live music, but Pop and hip hop are better listened to from an iPhone/headphones so that's what the machine sells.
Good news is that as long as there is live music, there will be rock. It's a deeper music that stays with its core audience much longer than a typical pop song stays with its casual listeners.
Pop and Hip Hop/rap has less individuality...it's more generic and pushed for casual young listeners. It's easier to be mass produced with effects and digital beats and fit under those genre's. Music that falls into those 'identities' are more likely to get played and promoted because that's what they think kids want to hear. It's a catchy beat with a surfacey message. In the earlier years of music, before technology made it easy to make an album and there were good songwriters...deeper music like rock/country fit under the "new catchy" category with kids. But that's not the case today.
I do agree that deeper music sticks with audiences better. Rock, Americana, and country fall more under that category these days...and there are artists that could fall under all three.
I'm with you. Many of my all time favorites, I found later in life in my late 20s (Opeth, Muse), and 30s (Ghost, Gojira), and even finding Devin Townsend recently in my late 30s along with non hard rock like chris stapleton and zac brown.Junkhead said:M.C. Swag said:
Music has never been more accessible, distributed, and created. There is an ocean of new music made every day across every genre by huge label bands to solo artists in their garage. If you're struggling to find new music that you like, it's because you're not really looking.
The simple fact is, your brain chemistry is different and you no longer crave actual new music, instead you crave nostalgia. And no amount or quality of new music can deliver nostalgia.
That may be true for some people but not me. I have several newer artists that I love and can't stop listening to and I'm in my late 40's.
These are just new bands that I'm constantly and consistently listening to and could easily make their way into my top ten favorite of all time. There are loads of other modern bands that I like what I've heard, and maybe just haven't dug into the more, like baroness or between the buried and me.
And then there are bands like Alice in Chains, or Tool, who have put out music in the last decade and I really like it. Is the nostalgia of simply the band name strong enough to pull me in? NO, because I haven't heard a Pearl Jam song I've liked since after VS. These are bands who have been around a long time from early years of music, who are still around, and putting out modern music I like.
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Wolf mother opened for GnR a couple years ago and SUCKED live.
I saw them in 2005 I think & they blew the roof off of Stubb's in downtown Austin.
Which was impressive because it was an outdoor venue.
I saw Kings of Leon later that same year & they were terrible. It was the end of the tour, they were worn out & I think one of the brothers checked into rehab after the tour was done.
Timing/Venue has a lot to do with shows. The crowd can have a huge impact too. Austin rock shows are notoriously lame crowds compared to San Antonio. When I saw Motley Crue at the Erwin Center on the Dr. Feelgood Tour back in the day it wasn't like that.
I guess it's hard for the youngsters to bang heads and thrash around when you have a man bun and wear skinny jeans.
Apache said:Quote:
Wolf mother opened for GnR a couple years ago and SUCKED live.
I saw them in 2005 I think & they blew the roof off of Stubb's in downtown Austin.
Which was impressive because it was an outdoor venue.
I saw Kings of Leon later that same year & they were terrible. It was the end of the tour, they were worn out & I think one of the brothers checked into rehab after the tour was done.
Timing/Venue has a lot to do with shows. The crowd can have a huge impact too. Austin rock shows are notoriously lame crowds compared to San Antonio. When I saw Motley Crue at the Erwin Center on the Dr. Feelgood Tour back in the day it wasn't like that.
I guess it's hard for the youngsters to bang heads and thrash around when you have a man bun and wear skinny jeans.
I was at the same KOL show and it was pretty bad. I saw their show the night before in Houston and it was great. Think they were partying pretty hard at that point.
This thread has me wanting more. Is there a definitive book on the history of Rock and Roll?
Yes. Go to Wikipedia and type in Rock and Roll. I'm being slightly sarcastic, but there is a ton of information on the history of rock music on wikipedia.Quad Dog said:
This thread has me wanting more. Is there a definitive book on the history of Rock and Roll?
Spotify has good, lengthy write-ups on individual artists/bands.
This is my favorite comment on the thread, 6 comments deep and he says **** your OP it's Survivor time Mother******. A band that almost everyone only knows exclusively for single song, Eye of the Tiger and has more "past members" than most football teams have players. LDP (LegalDrugPusher) knows that rock has been dead ever since September 1st, 2014 when our man with the voice of an angel Jimi Jamison left this plain of existence. There will be no Rock Revival without him.LegalDrugPusher said:
One of the most underrated bands ever is Survivor.
They are still technically around but with only 1 original member lead guitarist Frankie Sullivan. Long time front man Jimi Jamison is dead, damn he had a voice. And original bassist Stephen Ellis is also gone.
I saw them about 4 years ago as it was not all that great. Had just brought on 21 year old Cameron Barton as the front. When Jimi Jamison died unexpectedly in 2014 it basically killed the band. I wish Frankie could get Dave Bickell the original front man back along with founder Jim Peterik and original drummer Marc Doubrov.
Favorite song is How Much Love Does It Take
My man LDP has has been searching threads all day long and was like this is my moment, this is my one shot, to seize everything I ever want, I'm not going to let it slip. I've got the eye of the tiger, a fighter, dancing through the fire. Survivor are champions and you're going to hear me roar.
LDP tosses out his personal favorite track which he manages to get the name wrong, How Much Love from 1986's When Seconds Count. Is that the best Survivor song? Your God **** right it is. I've never heard it but I know for sure that anyone this deep in Survivor's back catalog knows what they are talking about. Did it make the cut on 2006's The Best of Survivor, or 2004's Ultimate Survivor, or 1993's Survivor's Greatest Hits? Hell no it didn't but LDP knows better. Listen up, How Much Love is the greatest song by Survivor full stop and I won't hear anything else about it.
My man LDP could have just stopped at Survivor is underrated. An easy take as certainly no one is over rating Survivor. But no, my man LDP has some grievances and all y'all are going to hear about it. LDP saw the boys four years ago at what I assume was a county fair or Eat to the Beat at Disneyworld and what he heard disgusted him. Young hot shot Cameron Barton is sullying the name of Survivor and more so the legacy of Jimi Jamison. And LDP will not stand for it. No one can replace our fallen angel Jimi (may he rest in peace) but original frontman Dave Bickler can at the very least try. Dave spent the last 35 years after leaving Survivor crafting an album to separate himself from the band releasing the most anticipating album of all time (eat a back of **** Chinese Democracy) 2018's Darklight. And while it's single Magic is tearing up the spotify charts with nearly a 1,000 steams it's time to let bygons be bygons and give the people the Survivor that we deserve.
Here's to you LDP, I hope you are making it through these difficult times and that your Survivor Cassettes continue to hold up.
Jasomania said:This is my favorite comment on the thread, 6 comments deep and he says **** your OP it's Survivor time Mother******. A band that almost everyone only knows exclusively for single song, Eye of the Tiger and has more "past members" than most football teams have players. LDP (LegalDrugPusher) knows that rock has been dead ever since September 1st, 2014 when our man with the voice of an angel Jimi Jamison left this plain of existence. There will be no Rock Revival without him.LegalDrugPusher said:
One of the most underrated bands ever is Survivor.
They are still technically around but with only 1 original member lead guitarist Frankie Sullivan. Long time front man Jimi Jamison is dead, damn he had a voice. And original bassist Stephen Ellis is also gone.
I saw them about 4 years ago as it was not all that great. Had just brought on 21 year old Cameron Barton as the front. When Jimi Jamison died unexpectedly in 2014 it basically killed the band. I wish Frankie could get Dave Bickell the original front man back along with founder Jim Peterik and original drummer Marc Doubrov.
Favorite song is How Much Love Does It Take
My man LDP has has been searching threads all day long and was like this is my moment, this is my one shot, to seize everything I ever want, I'm not going to let it slip. I've got the eye of the tiger, a fighter, dancing through the fire. Survivor are champions and you're going to hear me roar.
LDP tosses out his personal favorite track which he manages to get the name wrong, How Much Love from 1986's When Seconds Count. Is that the best Survivor song? Your God **** right it is. I've never heard it but I know for sure that anyone this deep in Survivor's back catalog knows what they are talking about. Did it make the cut on 2006's The Best of Survivor, or 2004's Ultimate Survivor, or 1993's Survivor's Greatest Hits? Hell no it didn't but LDP knows better. Listen up, How Much Love is the greatest song by Survivor full stop and I won't hear anything else about it.
My man LDP could have just stopped at Survivor is underrated. An easy take as certainly no one is over rating Survivor. But no, my man LDP has some grievances and all y'all are going to hear about it. LDP saw the boys four years ago at what I assume was a county fair or Eat to the Beat at Disneyworld and what he heard disgusted him. Young hot shot Cameron Barton is sullying the name of Survivor and more so the legacy of Jimi Jamison. And LDP will not stand for it. No one can replace our fallen angel Jimi (may he rest in peace) but original frontman Dave Bickler can at the very least try. Dave spent the last 35 years after leaving Survivor crafting an album to separate himself from the band releasing the most anticipating album of all time (eat a back of **** Chinese Democracy) 2018's Darklight. And while it's single Magic is tearing up the spotify charts with nearly a 1,000 steams it's time to let bygons be bygons and give the people the Survivor that we deserve.
Here's to you LDP, I hope you are making it through these difficult times and that your Survivor Cassettes continue to hold up.
These kinds of posts are few & far between and they deserve much respect. I'm especially impressed that Jasomania (ranked #6,417 of TexAgs users blue starred posts) came out of the weeds to figuratively knock it out of the park at the expense of LegalDrugPusher's(LDP) unbridled passion for 35+ year old deep tracks from Survivor. My only guess is that LDP lost his V card to that song (Probably to the OP's Mom) & it really stuck with him. Tip 'o the hat to LDP and the J-Man. Well done.
J-Man saved this thread
The Katy Perry lyrics take it to the next level.Apache said:
These kinds of posts are few & far between and they deserve much respect. I'm especially impressed that Jasomania (ranked #6,417 of TexAgs users blue starred posts) came out of the weeds to figuratively knock it out of the park at the expense of LegalDrugPusher's(LDP) unbridled passion for 35+ year old deep tracks from Survivor. My only guess is that LDP lost his V card to that song (Probably to the OP's Mom) & it really stuck with him. Tip 'o the hat to LDP and the J-Man. Well done.
I'm a 40's fella with a convertible and a huge rock fan so I feel like I can comment on this thread.
I too thought rock was dead until around 10/2019 when a friend at 80's in the Sand recommended a podcast called Growin Up Rock.
https://growinuprock.com/
If you are looking for new bands to check out or for new releases from old bands check out their top 10 album episodes for the last few years. I'll link some youtubes of some of my favorites. My taste tends towards harder rock like Iron Maiden, Rush, Triumph etc so obviously not everyone will like this stuff.
A few have already been mentioned:
Greta Van Fleet
Dirty Honey
The Struts
I cannot stand the Darkness his voice just kills me
Eclipse especially I love, they are pretty oustanding.
I too thought rock was dead until around 10/2019 when a friend at 80's in the Sand recommended a podcast called Growin Up Rock.
https://growinuprock.com/
If you are looking for new bands to check out or for new releases from old bands check out their top 10 album episodes for the last few years. I'll link some youtubes of some of my favorites. My taste tends towards harder rock like Iron Maiden, Rush, Triumph etc so obviously not everyone will like this stuff.
A few have already been mentioned:
Greta Van Fleet
Dirty Honey
The Struts
I cannot stand the Darkness his voice just kills me
Eclipse especially I love, they are pretty oustanding.
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Spoken like the Real Men of Genius ads.. which was sang by lead singer of survivor.Jasomania said:
Here's to you LDP,
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