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Green River Killer

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ApachePilot
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I don't normally watch these types of documentaries but growing up in Oregon-Washington state in the 70s and 80s I remember this guy's story well. So I was curious and started watching, I never realized they had him investigated multiple times by the police/task force!

One time the cop showed up at his house because the Victim's family found the truck they last saw her get into parked in this guy's drive way. Investigating cop knew the killer from high school and never looked in the house. The girl was tied to the guys bed!!!

The second time the girl got away from the killer and later ID'd him and they polygraphed him and he passed?!? The police then interviewed his coworkers and they said no way. Nothing further was done.

This guy just passed through the law like nothing on several occasions. Killing scores of women in between. I never knew that side of the story. This was one sick individual. But the police seem to have failed the public.
agdaddy04
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After watching the film shortly after it came out, I was blown away it was based on a true story
Urban Ag
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Yeah I grew up in the area too and that psycho killed so many women, especially in the early 80's, that it just seemed to never not be in the news. Many in law enforcement and the FBI back then were convinced that the killer was a cop and operating out of an unmarked vehicle, placing prostitutes under arrest and then taking them somewhere, killing them, and dumping the bodies. That would explain the relative ease by which he seemed to be able to abduct so many women and keep them restrained.

Turns out he was simply a psychotic sex addict with a f'd up upbringing and a thing for hookers.
ApachePilot
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His first wife left him while he was in the navy overseas and moved in with 2 guys and she became a prostitute. He had a lot of interaction with prostitution it seems. His Dad hated prostitutes, his mom was domineering and mean to him, his 1st wife left him to fk 2 guys and more. He got VD overseas from a prostitute. His interactions with women seems pretty odd. His 2nd wife said he wanted sex 6-7 times a day and in the woods? She said he would take her out in the woods and tie her up and have sex. Ya that's normal lady. No signs there the guy was nuts.

He had sex with the dead bodies days after killing them? This isn't a man that needs to take up tax dollars in jail. Take him out in the pacific with a concrete block tied to him and say swim.

He was interrogated like 10 times by the police and nothing! He was caught by an under cover prostitute cop and let go. He was found at the scene of 3 dead bodies in his truck late at night. Let go. His 2nd wife says he would be out all night and she didn't know where. but noticed he always brought a large roll of plastic with him. Hmmm.

I know hind sight and all, but damn Seattle cops were incompetent.


Urban Ag
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The truth of the matter is that he was killing hookers for the most part and not college girls (like Bundy). He preyed on the dregs of society. Law enforcement (as I know you know) is often political juggling of priorities. I remember it all quite clear even though I was a kid. It wasn't like Son of Sam or Bundy or the Unibomber. Seattlites were not living in fear of this because of his MO. I have no idea how much resources SPD, King County, or the FBI actually put on this in the early 80's but my guess is it wasn't too much relative to horror he was inflicting.

Seattle was pretty trashy in the 70's and 80's until the tech boom moved north and by the late 80's that city was going high profile with Microsoft and the like. It's probably hard for people not from there to grasp, but Seattle, for all it's natural beauty, was a very "industrial/blue collar" area until big tech showed up, regardless of Boeing. Lots of rough and tumble workers, lots of hookers, lots of booze and drugs. Disappearing prostitutes just wasn't really moving the needle.

An aside, and purely from an entertainment board perspective, I hope the next season of Mind Hunters dives in to this.
Ghost91
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Quick search of the usual streaming apps shows several documentaries about him. Which one are you referring to and how did you watch?
ApachePilot
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Very good points
Slagathor
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Reading Green River, Running Red by Ann Rule right now so once I finish that I'll have to go find this doc. Sounds very interesting.
birdman
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The cops realized they had a serial killer at one particular moment. Some canoeists found a body in Green River. They called the cops. The banks of river had waist high grass.

As they were walking to bank to retriever the body in the river, a cop tripped over a second corpse in the weeds. They set up perimeter around body #2. Then along the way to body in the river, another cop tripped over a third corpse in the weeds.

Catching the Green River Killer or something like that is good documentary. The main cop gets annoying because he was using this case to run for state office, but it's still a good show.

Ghost91
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So.....OP just gonna tell us about this great documentary but not give us the name of it or where it can be watched? Great thread.
Stive
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Man I am a sucker for serial killer podcasts and documentaries. The human mind and how some people are wired is simply one of the most fascinating things out there. Then you pile on with some outside aspects (parent treatment, sexual abuse, brain injuries, some trigger...) and in certain situations it makes for a gross cocktail of a person.

The Serial podcasts do a pretty good job of digging into some of these people and a good number of them will stick with you.
jm94
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I had moved here to Seattle when they caught him. The police was very "look what a great job we did to catch him," and the media was fine with that narrative. I think I remember a few "they were close a few times" things, but nothing like what OP describes.
jm94
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ApachePilot said:

He had sex with the dead bodies days after killing them?
The detail I remember is that he once drove out to where he'd stashed a body in some woods, and had sex with the corpse while his toddler son was napping in the pickup truck.
ApachePilot
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Watch both this one and the one below.

This one is full of great interviews.

ApachePilot
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On Amazon Prime. Mugshots: Gary Ridgeway - The Green River Killer.

This one is a lot more about the search and the failures by police.
Claude!
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Love to kick my feet way down the shallow water,
Shoe fly, dragon fly, get back to your mother
Pick up a flat rock, skip it across Green River
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