Baran Bo odor, Louis Hoffman, and Lisa Vicari all just posted spoiler photos on their Instagrams. There are apparently subtle differences from what we are used to in the photos. Can anyone see them?

https://instagr.am/p/CAaSLKPDjHw

are the chairs in the wrong place in front of the cave?

There should only be 1 chair in the cave. Seems to be mirrored there.

Also, pretty sure the Kahnwald house is a mirror image.

Not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but the creators have said S3 will tie in very closely with S1. (Which is no surprise, but it's probably a good indication that a lot of the scenes we saw in S1, we'll be seeing again in S3, maybe with very slight differences?)

And I'm sure the "incident" at the plant in 1986 will finally be revealed. I'm betting that'll end up being the event that caused a split with branching/multiple realities.

Keep in mind that we have never seen what happened, nor how the wormhole beneath the caves was created. By the time of the first episode it was already there. We only saw it get closed, but not opened.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but the creators have said S3 will tie in very closely with S1. (Which is no surprise, but it's probably a good indication that a lot of the scenes we saw in S1, we'll be seeing again in S3, maybe with very slight differences?)

And I'm sure the "incident" at the plant in 1986 will finally be revealed. I'm betting that'll end up being the event that caused a split with branching/multiple realities.

Keep in mind that we have never seen what happened, nor how the wormhole beneath the caves was created. By the time of the first episode it was already there. We only saw it get closed, but not opened.

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I thought the wormhole was created by old Jonas? (like, in an endless loop, the wormhole created itself)

At the end of S1?

Couldn't have been creating it because it has already existed and allowed Mikkel and Jonas to use it several times.

Noah says that Jonas is responsible for creating it but we haven't seen that happen. (This is my understanding, anyway.)

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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At the end of S1?

Couldn't have been creating it because it has already existed and allowed Mikkel and Jonas to use it several times.

Noah says that Jonas is responsible for creating it but we haven't seen that happen. (This is my understanding, anyway.)

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Idk, it's been a while. I'll need to re watch. For some reason I thought that it was created by old jonas activating the time machine (or something)

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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At the end of S1?

Couldn't have been creating it because it has already existed and allowed Mikkel and Jonas to use it several times.

Noah says that Jonas is responsible for creating it but we haven't seen that happen. (This is my understanding, anyway.)

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wasn't it formed by young jonas and old jonas (and not sure who else it was) all in the same point at the same time using that device?

Young Jonas was trapped in the cabin when Old Jonas switched on the machine in the cave tunnel. (ie right underneath that cabin.)

We didn't explicitly see what happened in the tunnel, but in the cabin itself, a portal opened up in 1953 (young Helge) and 1986. (Jonas)

Helge got sent to 1986, Jonas got sent to the future, and the tunnel wormhole was closed at that point.

But again, we haven't seen its original creation happen yet. The only reference we have is when Noah says that Old Jonas thinks he is closing the portal, when he actually causes its creation.

This part is confusing, because it sounds like he's talking about THAT particular moment, but I think he's actually referencing the 1986 incident that had already happened earlier in that same year. We just haven't seen it yet.

He couldn't have been referencing the scene we saw because he didn't create it right then.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Young Jonas was trapped in the cabin when Old Jonas switched on the machine under the cave. (ie right underneath that cabin.)

We didn't explicitly see what happened in the tunnel, but in the cabin itself, a portal opened up in 1953 (young Helge) and 1986. (Jonas)

Helge got sent to 1986, Jonas got sent to the future, and the tunnel wormhole was closed at that point.

But again, we haven't seen its original creation happen yet. The only reference we have is when Noah says that Old Jonas thinks he is closing the portal, when he actually causes its creation.

This part is confusing, because it sounds like he's talking about THAT particular moment, but I think he's actually referencing the 1986 incident that had already happened earlier in that same year. We just haven't seen it yet.

He couldn't have been referencing the scene we saw because he didn't create it right then.

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Looks like you were right about the mirroring.
https://instagr.am/p/CAcG_yrjKnT

This is just a fun fan account for anyone curious where this came from!

https://instagr.am/p/CAfwjr2qKt2

https://instagr.am/p/CAiOMa1J3Zz

(Apparently it's fan art that was posted by the creator of the show. Dang it. I thought 6.27 was finally confirmed...)

So people are saying that Monday 5/25 is International Missing Children's Day, and also 33 days before 6/27, so that might be when they drop the trailer.

Of course, it's also possible that people are just making completely random connections because they're so desperate for a trailer. *Raises hand*

Thank you Texags for recommending this. I binged watched it in 3 days. One of the best shows I have ever seen.

So many questions leading into season 3. My theory is that Adam isn't Jonas but I am usually wrong about these things.

He's pretty intentional though. I feel like he wouldn't have shared it if it wasn't true... I guess we'll see!

Do Germans not care about standing in the rain?

It's happening!

https://instagr.am/p/CAmnTpXJ8p1

Whoop!!

Wait, what?!! I thought we'd have until 6/27 for a rewatch of S1 and S2!

Teaser, not the actual season.

So pumped!

And so many questions! I need to get to rewatching the first two seasons now!

Seeing some theories on reddit that Alexander Kohler is from the alternate world. (Remember he just shows up in the forest in 1986.)

Thoughts on that? His old name was "Boris Niewald", and there was some speculation that he was both a Nielsen and a Kahnwald (possibly the son of Jonas + Martha), however, it also seems that there's no Jonas in the other world. So maybe that theory is shot.

Trying to decide if I start a rewatch tonight and spread it out or if I wait and cram it all in in like a week for maximum freshness.

I always thought Kohler was from the alternate universe while his current world counterpart was involved with the plant inspectors brother. Interesting theory that he might be Jonas and Martha's son though.

Let's hope so.

Pretty big hints as to where this is going back in S1E4.

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I've referenced this episode a few times before in my own theories because when Magnus walks into Franz classroom the teacher is talking about a particular Goethe novel speaking of symmetry saying that the repetition is mirrored along a central axis so the repetition begins at an imaginary starting centre point and branches off in two opposing directions, those two directions being 1953 and 2019 if we're to go by the idea of 1986 being the imaginary starting centre point upon mads disappearance, which to me means it mightn't be this never ending loop but instead the events of 1986 that lead us to where we are now!

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And this actually coincides with my previous post about how the 1986 incident will likely be the fulcrum point on which the entire loop/cycle rests on. Whatever this event was (which has yet to be seen) must be prevented in order to break the cycle.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Seeing some theories on reddit that Alexander Kohler is from the alternate world. (Remember he just shows up in the forest in 1986.)

Thoughts on that? His old name was "Boris Niewald", and there was some speculation that he was both a Nielsen and a Kahnwald (possibly the son of Jonas + Martha), however, it also seems that there's no Jonas in the other world. So maybe that theory is shot.

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I always wondered how he knew to be exactly where Regina was being beaten up by Katharina while Ulrich looked on. He became her knight in shining armor and then shows up at the nuclear power plant with no skills but somehow knows Claudia will need someone to do dirty work and keep it a secret.

Soon after (or during this time) is when Claudia discovers what is happening and then eventually disappears.

Years later Alexander is married to Regina and now has the most powerful position in the town which is running the nuclear facility.

Being from the alternate world could be a possibility.

I figured he found out about time travel and went to that exact spot to set himself up to eventually take over the nuclear power plant and become rich.