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Director Showdown V: The Winners Tournament

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With Kubrick being voted into this tournament after tying Scorsese in their matchup, we now have our four winners and our 32 movies.

For this tournament, I want to do something a little different. Rather than just having the movie that wins the championship deciding the ultimate winner, I will be using a point system after each round.

This way, we can crown both a movie and a director. (Hoping they end up coinciding, but they may not.)

This is how it will work:
  • 5 points for each Round of 32 win
  • 10 points for each Sweet 16 win
  • 15 points for each Elite 8 win
  • 20 points for each Semifinals win
  • 25 points for the Championship
  • Bonus: 10 points for second place, 5 points for third place
As for the brackets, rather than having two directors face off and then meeting in the championship, I've taken the top 4 seeds for each director and put them against the bottom 4 of another director, and so on, so as to to have all four directors facing each other from the start.

Bracket 1:
Cameron 1-4 vs Spielberg 5-8
Nolan 1-4 vs Kubrick 5-8

Bracket 2:
Spielberg 1-4 vs Nolan 5-8
Kubrick 1-4 vs Cameron 5-8

Working on the bracket now and will post it shortly.
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Round of 32

Bracket 1:

Cameron vs Spielberg

1. Aliens vs 8. Catch Me If You Can
2. The Terminator vs 7. Saving Private Ryan
3. Terminator 2 vs 6. ET
4. True Lies vs 5. Schindler's List

Nolan vs Kubrick

1. The Dark Knight vs 8. Paths of Glory
2. Inception vs 7. Spartacus
3. Interstellar vs 6. Full Metal Jacket
4. The Prestige vs 5. Eyes Wide Shut

Will be posting Bracket 2 once this bracket is done.

Vote here!
Lathspell
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Lol... I had a Nolan sweep.
Brian Earl Spilner
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I take Nolan 3-1, with Eyes Wide Shut over Prestige.

On top, Catch Me If You Can over Aliens and ET over T2.
Lathspell
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Wow... even I, the one who has posted his feelings about Aliens on this board, was not going to post that I picked Catch Me If you Can over Aliens... though I did.
Cinco Ranch Aggie
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4-0 Nolan
3-1 Cameron (voted for Aliens; only vote for Stevie is SPR)
Brian Earl Spilner
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Bump for the morning crowd. Currently three upsets brewing.
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Round of 32

Bracket 1 Results:

Cameron vs Spielberg

1. Aliens (70%) vs 8. Catch Me If You Can (30%)
2. The Terminator (40%) vs 7. Saving Private Ryan (60%)
3. Terminator 2 (68%) vs 6. ET (32%)
4. True Lies (42%) vs 5. Schindler's List (58%)

Nolan vs Kubrick

1. The Dark Knight (91%) vs 8. Paths of Glory (8%)
2. Inception (74%) vs 7. Spartacus (26%)
3. Interstellar (44%) vs 6. Full Metal Jacket (56%)
4. The Prestige (78%) vs 5. Eyes Wide Shut (22%)

Spielberg already off to a hot start with 2 upsets. Kubrick gets 1 upset with FMJ over Interstellar. Sadly, not the upset I was rooting for. (EWS over Prestige)

Bracket 2 coming in a few...
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Round of 32

Bracket 2:

Spielberg vs Nolan

1. Raiders of the Lost Ark vs 8. The Dark Knight Rises
2. Jaws vs 7. Batman Begins
3. Jurassic Park vs 6. Dunkirk
4. Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade vs 5. Memento

Kubrick vs Cameron

1. The Shining vs 8. Piranha II
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey vs 7. Avatar
3. A Clockwork Orange vs 6. The Abyss
4. Dr. Strangelove vs 5. Titanic

Vote here!
Chipotlemonger
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Straight chalk on this one
Brian Earl Spilner
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Agreed, seems to be one of the easier ones so far.

Though personally (and I know I'm the only person who would vote this way), I would take Titanic over Strangelove. Personal nostalgia.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Correction: It appears I am not.
Cinco Ranch Aggie
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Spielberg 4-0
Kubrik 3-1
Bruce Almighty
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Damn, some how I missed this thread yesterday.
Bruce Almighty
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Spielberg 4-0
Cameron 3-1
Zombie Jon Snow
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Spielberg 4-0
Kubrick 4-0

Brian Earl Spilner
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Ok, who voted for Piranha 2?
Fat Bib Fortuna
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Ok, who voted for Piranha 2?
It answered a lot of questions that the original Piranha left up in the air, and really had fans of the franchise "craving" answers for some of these ideas that have circulated the Piranha bulletin boards for decades.

1) What is the abandoned military installation we see in the beginning of the original film?

2) What as the original purpose of the hatchery that Maggie McKeown and Paul Gogan discover?

3) Is the skeleton they encounter in the filtration trap there within the remains of a scientist who worked on the project, or is it more of a tonal choice of commentary on man's determination to destroy himself but only after first destroying nature?

4) Was Operation: Razorteeth approved by Nixon, or was it Ford who masterminded the plan?

5) Had the bio-engineered piranha succeeded in destroying the Viet Cong, would the US government have turned this strain of super fish on its other enemies on the Asian continent? Could the mutants debilitated the Soviet Union before it turned Afghanistan into its training ground for military dissidents?

6) Was Colonel Waxman operating on orders from Capitol Hill or was he under the directives of some sort of pseudo-military spin-off that was more interested in biological weapons untraceable to the US than in actually stopping the threat and saving human lives?

7) Is the use of the smelting refuse tanks to unleash industrial waste to kill the piranhas a stroke of genius or a self-inflicted indictment of our slow poisoning of Mother Earth?


With Cameron's early knack of great practical effects, Piranha II: The Spawning is nothing short of a master class on captivating fans of the genre of freshwater fish that go crazy and also start being able to fly while also killing people not just for food, but also for sport.

The Hotel Elysium is aptly named - guests have nothing to worry about in this paradise - or do they? In the same way we saw humans unleash the fruit of our labors in the form of industrial waste to stop the piranha in the first film's climax, now we see the revenge of these vicious miniature killers in the only way they can fight back - rapid evolution. Not only does the piranha gain flight capabilities,but it also is able to live inside a human body like a parasite clinging to a host, eventually freeing itself to murder a nurse in the morgue and escape to freedom by blasting through a glass window.

Outlandish? On the surface, yes. But also indicative of life's incredible power to survive, to find a way as Ian Malcolm would so appropriately describe it 11 years later in Jurassic Park. Main character Anne Kimbrough is so despondent at her loss of the control of the situation that her biological instincts take over and she responds to the stress of it all by initiating a one-night stand with hapless tourist Tyler Sherman. While seducing Sherman temporarily rescues her from her feelings of chaos surrounding her from all sides, it is nothing more than a stop-gap when her estranged husband and local law enforcement officer Steve Kimbrough discovers that she violated his trust two-fold: breaking into the morgue and then bringing another man to her bed.

This blow to their already tenuous marriage gives Steve uncomfortable feelings that often occur when a man in power finds that power has slipped through his finger tips like so much sand on the beach. Not only is Anne meeting her physical needs without him, but his municipality is now threatened by a menace that he cannot comprehend nor put in a jail cell and throw away the key.

As the tension heightens, Tyler comes clean on his secret identity as another scientist from the first film's Razorteeth project.Unsatisfied by the limitations of only being able to attack enemies in the fire, the scientists played their own version of the modern-day Frankenstein and produced deadly fish capable of flying, as they do with deadly efficiency during a ritzy party at the local hotel and resort. Suddenly man's superiority over aquatic life is compromised and panic ensues. While Frankenstein might have inspired their creation, it is Bram Stoker's Dracula who helps put down this winged terror. Anne realizes they o not fare well in sunlight. They use this to form a bold plan, which results in the destruction of the piranha onboard a sunken ship with a pile of powerful explosives. Man's reliance on technology has saved him again, but how much longer can he remain the dominant species on this earth?
Brian Earl Spilner
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Good lord.
Fat Bib Fortuna
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Good lord.
The best part is, I didn't vote for it, nor have I ever seen either of those movies. I'm just trying to stay awake and work.
bluefire579
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Judging by the length of the post, you were succeeding at one of those
Fat Bib Fortuna
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I write for a living, sometimes you need to stretch your fingers on something fun in order to get back to the less fun stuff.
Cinco Ranch Aggie
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While I wouldn't call Cameron's Pirahna flick a better movie than The Shining, it was a fun popcorn movie. I enjoyed both of those critter flicks.
Brian Earl Spilner
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All but one matchup are pretty much decided. Cutting this off soon.
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MuckRaker96 said:

I write for a living, sometimes you need to stretch your fingers on something fun in order to get back to the less fun stuff.
Trust me, I understand
Brian Earl Spilner
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Was about to cut it off but we've got a tie. Cutting it as soon as the tie breaks.
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I'm curious which is tied.

So hard to guess but I'd go with Jaws vs Batman Begins
Brian Earl Spilner
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I'll say it's in the Kubrick vs Cameron section.
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Round of 32

Bracket 2 Results:

Spielberg vs Nolan

1. Raiders of the Lost Ark (90%) vs 8. The Dark Knight Rises (10%)
2. Jaws (69%) vs 7. Batman Begins (31%)
3. Jurassic Park (81%) vs 6. Dunkirk (19%)
4. Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade (73%) vs 5. Memento (27%)

Kubrick vs Cameron

1. The Shining (96%) vs 8. Piranha II (4%)
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey (78%) vs 7. Avatar (22%)
3. A Clockwork Orange (49%) vs 6. The Abyss (51%)
4. Dr. Strangelove (61%) vs 5. Titanic (39%)

Was about to be a straight ticket for both Spielberg and Kubrick, but The Abyss pulled out the upset by a single vote. Insanely close matchup where the lead never grew beyond 3 votes.

Right at the end, The Abyss was behind by 2 votes, then got 3 straight votes to take a 1 vote lead, but ACO got in another vote at the last second to tie it up again right before the poll was gonna close. Had to wait a while for the final vote to break the tie.

That 10 point swing for Cameron might be a difference maker in the end. We'll see.


Here's our standings after Round 1:
Spielberg - 30
Kubrick - 20
Cameron - 15
Nolan - 15
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Sweet 16:

1. Aliens vs 5. Schindler's List
7. Saving Private Ryan vs 3. Terminator 2

1. The Dark Knight vs 4. The Prestige
2. Inception vs 6. Full Metal Jacket

1. Raiders of the Lost Ark vs 4. Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade
2. Jaws vs 3. Jurassic Park

1. The Shining vs 4. Dr. Strangelove
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey vs 6. The Abyss

Vote here!
Brian Earl Spilner
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Two pretty big upsets brewing...
Chipotlemonger
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T2 and Jurassic Park?
Brian Earl Spilner
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Are you saying T2 over SPR or the other way around?
Brian Earl Spilner
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Also, one of the #1 seeds is now locked in a tie.
Fat Bib Fortuna
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I'm voting strictly on who I think would win in a fight
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