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Director Showdown V: The Winners Tournament

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Also, one of the #1 seeds is now locked in a tie.
I'm thinking it's Indiana Jones
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Are you saying T2 over SPR or the other way around?


T2 over SPR.
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Well SPR came in as a 7 seed and T2 at 2, so that wouldn't be an upset.
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Well SPR came in as a 7 seed and T2 at 2, so that wouldn't be an upset.
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Ah the order mixed me up
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Sweet 16 Results:

1. Aliens (57%) vs 5. Schindler's List (43%)
7. Saving Private Ryan (58%) vs 3. Terminator 2 (42%)

1. The Dark Knight (83%) vs 4. The Prestige (17%)
2. Inception (38%) vs 6. Full Metal Jacket (62%)

1. Raiders of the Lost Ark (79%) vs 4. Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade (21%)
2. Jaws (53%) vs 3. Jurassic Park (47%)

1. The Shining (71%) vs 4. Dr. Strangelove (29%)
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey (71%) vs 6. The Abyss (29%)

Schindler's List led Aliens for most of the match, and then Aliens finished with 12 straight votes to take the win.

Jaws EDGES out Jurassic Park by 3 votes. Was really hoping it JP could pull out the upset.

T2 made it interesting, but SPR was pretty much ahead the whole time. Seems to be tearing right through this tournament even as a lower seed. (But, Spielberg's entire selection is basically top tier.)

Full Metal Jacket over Inception is the biggest surprise for me. I didn't realize this many people loved FMJ. (I figured the second half was mostly hated by people, so interesting result.)

And I guess we've officially settled that Indy debate -- Raiders is the best in the series.

Nolan and Cameron down to 1 movie each. Spielberg and Kubrick each with 3. Spielberg in the lead, but Kubrick is right on his heels.

Current standings:
Spielberg - 60
Kubrick - 50
Cameron - 25
Nolan - 25
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Elite 8:

Match 1:

1. Aliens


vs

7. Saving Private Ryan



Match 2:

1. The Dark Knight


vs

6. Full Metal Jacket



Match 3:

1. Raiders of the Lost Ark


vs

2. Jaws



Match 4:

1. The Shining


vs

2. 2001: A Space Odyssey



Vote here!
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Chipotlemonger said:

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Same here.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Two ties.
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Brian Earl Spilner
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Still got a tie.
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Elite 8 Results:

1. Aliens (64%) vs 7. Saving Private Ryan (36%)

1. The Dark Knight (67%) vs 6. Full Metal Jacket (33%)

1. Raiders of the Lost Ark (51.5%) vs 2. Jaws (48.5%)

1. The Shining (41%) vs 2. 2001: A Space Odyssey (59%)

Once again, we had a tie up until a few minutes ago, and I called it as soon as the tie-breaking vote came in. Although the match was nearly 50/50 the entire way through, Jaws was always ahead by a couple of votes. But Raiders came in with the last-second shot to hit the game winner. Takes out Jaws by 1 vote.

The Shining and 2001 were in an early tie, but 2001 took control from there.

Aliens and SPR was fairly contested for the first few hours, but then Aliens pulled away.

The Dark Knight was the only movie which built a solid early lead and never gave it up.

Each director comes out with 1 win.

And now we get to the Semifinals with a movie from each director. "Perfectly balanced..."

Current standings:
1. Spielberg - 75
2. Kubrick - 65
3. Cameron - 40
3. Nolan - 40

With 20 points awarded per semifinal win, it's still anyone's game.
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Semifinals:

Match 1:

1. Aliens


vs

1. The Dark Knight



Match 2:

1. Raiders of the Lost Ark


vs

2. 2001: A Space Odyssey



Vote here!
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Vote space ticket! I did.

And damn those who didn't vote for FMJ
Brian Earl Spilner
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One of these is currently a tie.
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Once again, the movie that was losing for most of its match comes back to win by a single vote, except now it was TDK, not Aliens.

Crazy how many close wins we've had lately.

2001 made it interesting against Raiders, but just wasn't enough.

Semifinals Results:

1. The Dark Knight (51.4%) vs 1. Aliens (48.6%)

1. Raiders of the Lost Ark (56.8%) vs 2. 2001: A Space Odyssey (43.2%)

Current Standings:
1. Spielberg - 95
2. Kubrick - 65
3. Nolan - 60
4. Cameron - 40

With Spielberg ahead by 30 points, he will be our tournament winner and overall winner for favorite director.

Only thing that remains is crowning a favorite movie, and sorting the directors 2-4.
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Final:

1. The Dark Knight


vs

1. Raiders of the Lost Ark



Third Place Match:

1. Aliens


vs

2. 2001: A Space Odyssey


Vote here!
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Bump for the morning crowd.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Pretty much a done deal.

Final Result:
1. Raiders of the Lost Ark (71%) vs The Dark Knight (29%)

Third Place:
1. Aliens (56%) vs 2. 2001: A Space Odyssey (44%)

Final Standings:
1. Spielberg - 120
2. Nolan - 70
3. Kubrick - 65
4. Cameron - 45

And your winner, with the best movie and the highest overall score by far, is Steven Spielberg.



Hard to argue with the result. He has more great movies than many directors have movies, period, let alone great ones.

Thanks all for your participation.
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Funny enough, this probably could've been predicted after the second showdown, when Spielberg wiped the floor with Tarantino.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Funny enough, this probably could've been predicted after the first showdown, when Spielberg wiped the floor with Tarantino.

Funny enough...... if you asked Spielberg, Nolan, Scott, Scorsese, Cameron, Fincher, etc. they would tell you it is Kubrick.

In fact they have many many times. I'll sleep well knowing that - and I do love all of these directors maybe I love them because they were impacted and influenced by Kubrick.

I get why Spielberg would win this and even why Kubrick wasn't runner-up. He never made "accessible" fun films. Dr. Strangelove was a comedy but a black comedy. He never made a fun summer blockbuster type movie. I get it. But to me best director is about the mastery of filmmaking itself and the impacts in terms of style, cinematography, technique and even technological innovations.


I'll just include these as my final commentary:

Steven Spielberg called "2001" the Big Bang of his filmmaking generation.

Spielberg's "AI: Artificial Intelligence" was based on a short story by Kubrick and they collaborated on it with Kubrick as producer. During that time Spielberg referred to Kubrick as "the greatest master I ever served".

Consider that nearly every film we talk about here and really every director in this poll came after 2001 (the movie not the year, so after 1968) and after Dr. Strangelove and even after Barry Lyndon and The Shining for the most part. I think his impact is felt and sometimes directly identifiable in most of the movies of all of those directors.

Alas it is what it is.


I have one regret with Kubrick although I understand it. I wish we had seen his treatment of WWII/Holocaust. He was working on a film to be titled Aryan Papers based on a semi-autobiographical novel called Wartime Lies about the Nazi occupation in Poland's ghettos. But the subject matter so depressed him and he also felt Spielberg had covered most of the same subject/themes with Schindler's List and he abandoned the project.

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I wish we had seen his treatment of WWII/Holocaust. He was working on a film to be titled Aryan Papers based on a semi-autobiographical novel called Wartime Lies about the Nazi occupation in Poland's ghettos. But the subject matter so depressed him and he also felt Spielberg had covered most of the same subject/themes with Schindler's List and he abandoned the project.
Undoubtedly I would have seen this movie, but like Schindler's List, it would have been a one-and-done type of movie. There is imagery from Schindler's List that remains with me even after all these years, just an absolutely brutal movie to watch. The only movie I've seen that I'd consider to be more brutal is The Passion of the Christ.

Kubrik was a great director, but your point of him not doing the "fun" summer-time type movies is valid. 2001 is his high-water mark for me, although I do love the black comedy of Dr. Strangelove. The Shining is damn good but I've always sided a bit with Stephen King's opinion of the casting for that movie - of course Jack Nicholson was going to go insane, or something to that effect; that made the character's descent into madness not so striking as it should have been. I'll say this for the TV movie remake, despite remembering nothing about that cast - that version presented the story of the novel more closely, and the guy portraying Jack Torrance was not someone you'd think of as insane or going insane. Then there's the other movie that Kubrik did that I have always enjoyed, that being Full Metal Jacket. But even that one, to me, is a tale of two separate movies: the boot camp and Vietnam. The movie takes a decided downturn when the action goes to Vietnam, but the boot camp portion is nails.
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Spielberg's "AI: Artificial Intelligence" was based on a short story by Kubrick and they collaborated on it with Kubrick as producer. During that time Spielberg referred to Kubrick as "the greatest master I ever served".
I always found AI really underrated. Really enjoy that movie, I just wouldn't put it in his top 8.

(But that speaks to the strength of his filmography.)
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