In human history, when someone is very publicly offended by an act, they often have a similar skeleton in their closet.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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My two cents:

There's movies out there with incredibly disturbing, violent imagery. This particular scene is obviously meant to be disturbing as well, and from my understanding, the movie itself is actually a criticism of this kind of thing.

So why such a huge oproar over this? If you're disturbed by the scene, it seems to me the movie did its job.

Is the issue about "giving pedos jerkoff material?" Because I'm sorry to tell you guys, but as someone who frequented 4chan quite a bit in my college years, I can tell you that sadly, pedos have plently of material and this is not going to make them bat an eye.

I dunno, it just seems like you are meant to be disturbed by the scene and perhaps if you're that upset, maybe watch the movie to see it its full context rather than calling for a boycott and starting a thread to show everyone how mad you are.

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I don't need to watch the movie to understand the context, I've read enough about the movie to know that the actions of the characters are condemned in the context of the movie.

But fighting child exploitation with child exploitation is still wrong.

TCTTS said:

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I said "send a message." I didn't say "choose to not spend money."

I simply will never understand boycotting ALL of something when only .00001% of its decision making could be considered "wrong" or "questionable." I feel the same way toward the left for boycotting things like Chick-fil-A for their COO opposing same-sex marriage. I'm all for same-sex marriage, and I think it's ridiculous that anyone would want to keep two consenting adults, no matter their gender, from marrying, but I don't see what sense it makes to boycott the entire brand, and thus everyone else who works there, for the views/actions of a portion of the top brass.

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How would you get your message across to the top brass?

Consumers speak with their wallets. If a company offends you then stop spending your money there. Enough people do it and they'll be forced to change.

I can be a good person. Give to charity, volunteer, and hold doors open for old ladies, but if .0001% of my
Life is spend murdering people, I'll get canceled real quick with a life sentence.

You are one person comparing yourself to a company. That is TCTTS's point.

Originally, I was kind of pissed that netflix would put something like this on their platform because it way oversexualizes 11 year old girls, but the creators are speaking out against that exact thing. The problem is that the rest of society has sexualized young girls to the point that it takes something like this to get the point across that it's not ok and to look at what it is happening. Anything less simply isn't shocking and isn't going to convey the message because it will get lost in normalcy. The point isn't to glorify or normalize the sexualization of young girls, it's to start a conversation about how it is already happening and to bring outrage against it. It's like A Brave New World. In no way was Huxley trying to say, "We should have a society built on self-gratification, sex, drugs, and numbness." He was speaking against everything that society represented and where he thought the world was headed.

If anything, this movie is a canary in a coal mine and made to be that way. If people aren't outraged by it, there's something terribly wrong.

PatAg said:

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In human history, when someone is very publicly offended by an act, they often have a similar skeleton in their closet.

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noted historian 'patag"

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I don't need to watch the movie to understand the context...

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Never change, Texags.

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expresswrittenconsent said:

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PatAg said:

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In human history, when someone is very publicly offended by an act, they often have a similar skeleton in their closet.

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noted historian 'patag"

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Am I wrong?

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Yes.

A person being offended by an act doesn't mean they're a perpetrator of the act, in fact odds suggest that they're not. People that do immoral things act out against those immoral things, because it's the socially acceptable norm, they're trying to pretend to be normal. In other words, most people that do it aren't perpetrators of the act. You're suggesting that the OP is a pedo without evidence other than their offense, which makes you a thoughtless jerk.

It's a stupid movie with an ineffective message that commits the crime they suggest is immoral. That's a dumb way to convey a message and quite honestly the context of content does not always matter.

What I don't understand is how are all these moral high ground boomers complaining about this on the internet?

Don't they realize there is literal hardcore porn all over the internet? For free? Why aren't you cutting off your internet service?

gomerschlep said:

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What I don't understand is how are all these moral high ground boomers complaining about this on the internet?

Don't they realize there is literal hardcore porn all over the internet? For free? Why aren't you cutting off your internet service?

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The internet is a marketplace for companies to make their products available and consumers get to choose, that's a dishonest or very ignorant comparison.

I don't care that there is porn available on the internet by either, as long as they are consenting adults they can do whatever they want.

And not a boomer at all, not even close.

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GoAgs92 said:

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Ive never even seen the trailer...haha

You want to quit netflix, go right ahead....but posting about it on TA....why?

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Umm because it is a huge story right now and I agree with the people who don't want to fund that garbage.

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But nobody cares what you think, they can think for themselves....and no one cares what i think either.

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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GoAgs92 said:

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Ive never even seen the trailer...haha

You want to quit netflix, go right ahead....but posting about it on TA....why?

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Umm because it is a huge story right now and I agree with the people who don't want to fund that garbage.

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But nobody cares what you think, they can think for themselves....and no one cares what i think either.

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You could literally post that in response to anything on here. Why do you even bother to come to an online forum in the first place?

Dear diary..

This entire fiasco is Netflix's own fault. The poster they released showing 11 year old girls in skimpy outfits and posing suggestively is what caused the outrage in the US. The movie had won awards and done very well in Europe before Netflix got their dirty little fingers on this. They deserve everything they are getting.

ChubbyHubby said:

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This entire fiasco is Netflix's own fault. The poster they released showing 11 year old girls in skimpy outfits and posing suggestively is what caused the outrage in the US. The movie had won awards and done very well in Europe before Netflix got their dirty little fingers on this. They deserve everything they are getting.

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Like all the clicks and views and free advertising?

It's good to see that virtue signaling isn't limited to one side of the political spectrum.

hph6203 said:

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Started to post this, but decided it wasn't worth weighing in on. From what I saw of the clips related to this (I've seen all of 30 seconds), it's not much worse than Toddler's and Tiaras and Dance Mom's or whatever they called it on The Learning Channel. I think they're all bad, so when I say not much worse what I mean is they're all really gross.

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Selective outrage is a funny thing.

Azariah said:

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It's good to see that virtue signaling isn't limited to one side of the political spectrum.

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How is this political?

MuckRaker96 said:

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ChubbyHubby said:

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This entire fiasco is Netflix's own fault. The poster they released showing 11 year old girls in skimpy outfits and posing suggestively is what caused the outrage in the US. The movie had won awards and done very well in Europe before Netflix got their dirty little fingers on this. They deserve everything they are getting.

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Like all the clicks and views and free advertising?

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No more like the stock price dropping almost 7% since the movie was released, and the amount of cancellations for September right now being 8 times what it was for all of August (and the month is only half over), and lawmakers calling on the DOJ to investigate Netflix for child exploitation.

But hey I guess any publicity is good publicity right?

ChubbyHubby said:

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MuckRaker96 said:

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ChubbyHubby said:

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This entire fiasco is Netflix's own fault. The poster they released showing 11 year old girls in skimpy outfits and posing suggestively is what caused the outrage in the US. The movie had won awards and done very well in Europe before Netflix got their dirty little fingers on this. They deserve everything they are getting.

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Like all the clicks and views and free advertising?

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No more like the stock price dropping almost 7% since the movie was released, and the amount of cancellations for September right now being 8 times what it was for all of August (and the month is only half over), and lawmakers calling on the DOJ to investigate Netflix for child exploitation.

But hey I guess any publicity is good publicity right?

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I doubt it's good publicity, but history tells us that most companies seem to have no moral issue with getting their name said over and over and over again in the media.

I think Netflix is taking a gamble, and maybe it is the end of Netflix, I have no idea, but I doubt it. I have not seen a second of the show the buzz is about and have no intention of doing so.

But largely due to the coronavirus, Netflix gained 26 million subscribers in the first half of the year, according to a story by Variety, which also mentioned that the cancellation rate being thrown around doesn't list what those actual number of cancellations are, just that it's 8 times as high as last month. You also don't have data on how many subscriptions it's gained this month. So if their normal cancellation rate on a single day is 50 and now it's 400, they can probably live with that. If the normal is 1,000 and now it's 8,000 that's a bit different.

The stock closed at $495.99 a share today, which is up $19 from yesterday. It's absolutely dropped since it closed at $552.40 a share on September 2 - that's a 11.7% drop in 13 days. But at the same time, Netflix was also at $326 a share on January 1, 2020, which means it's up 52% for the year. For Netflix, it feels like this has nothing to do with morality and everything to do with profitability. I completely understand why people would cancel over this, but I don't think Netflix really cares.

HoustonAg2106 said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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I'm surprised there hasn't been a thread about this already...

The wife and I have been considering dumping Netflix already because we find ourselves watching a lot more of the other streaming platforms (Prime and Hulu mainly). Netflix has been adamant that their original content will grow their product, but for us personally we have not been impressed.

Now that apparently this Cuties controversy seems to be the hill that Netflix wants to die on we are pulling the plug.

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We have an entire thread on it...

https://texags.com/forums/13/topics/3136442

But yeah, go ahead and show those Netflix executives who's boss. I'm sure the thousands of other people who work for Netflix, who had absolutely nothing to do with this - especially those who contribute to and produce content for Netflix's Christian library, one of the most robust Christian libraries of any streamer - will appreciate your efforts.

I swear, the left has co-opted Cancel Culture, while the right has co-opted Boycott Culture. Both can be, and often are, equally ridiculous, especially in this instance. For the record, I find the Cuties footage to be abhorrent, but boycotts like this make little sense, and serve no purpose other than to virtue signal on social media and message boards like this.

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I'm sorry I missed the thread titled "Netflix" (don't know how I missed it) to address this issue. And I'm sorry if you think it is "virtue signaling" to be horrified by watching 11 year old girls literally bend over and grab their crotch, but that is something that I am comfortable taking a stand against. Boycotts like this make perfect sense to me.

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I think the intended point of the movie was that you are supposed to be horrified by it. Now, whether that is a good way to point out the issue (basically giving pedo's jerkoff material)...

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I'm well aware of what they are saying the movie is intended to do, but there are videos on the internet now of basically just the 2 minute dance routine that is probably being viewed very heavily in the pedo community.

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The pedo community has access to things wayyyyyyyy more distributing than any dance routine in this movie. To think there are pedophiles out there that are thrilled they finally have access to a clip of this dance routine is so naive.

All stocks have dropped since the movie released.

Boiling Denim said:

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If anyone thinks this is your run of the mill over-reaction/cancel culture at work you should really watch the below video.

I'd love to see someone defend this after watching...

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He looks like someone that would seek this movie out based on the poster that got people mad.