Just finished it. Didn't know much about this story before watching it. It sure did draw me in.
Outpost on Netflix
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I just watched it because of your recommendation. Very good movie overall. I thought it started a little "clunky" but picked up steam. I kind of understood at the end why it was set up that way.
A few interesting notes:
I know Clint Romesha's wife. I had an on-line class with her when I was in ND and was in a collaboration group with her. Pretty interesting to "know" someone that was there, although I never actually met neither him nor her.
At the end of the movie, I noticed the actor that plays Romesha "strike a pose", for lack of a better term and make a comment. I thought to myself, "He's trying to pull off Clint Eastwood there." Well, it makes sense. The actor is Scott Eastwood, Clint Eastwood's son.
Make sure to watch the credits until the end. Some very interesting discussions and topics. I won't post spoilers.
A few interesting notes:
I know Clint Romesha's wife. I had an on-line class with her when I was in ND and was in a collaboration group with her. Pretty interesting to "know" someone that was there, although I never actually met neither him nor her.
At the end of the movie, I noticed the actor that plays Romesha "strike a pose", for lack of a better term and make a comment. I thought to myself, "He's trying to pull off Clint Eastwood there." Well, it makes sense. The actor is Scott Eastwood, Clint Eastwood's son.
Make sure to watch the credits until the end. Some very interesting discussions and topics. I won't post spoilers.
They featured the two Medal of Honor recipients from this battle on the Medal of Honor documentary series on Netflix. In case you wanted more info with interviews from people that were there.
Before watching the movie, I had no idea Clint Eastwood had a son. But during this movie, it naturally occured to me to this actor had to be related to Clint Eastwood somehow. I thought his look, his mannerisms and facial expressions are just like his Dad's.
What's cool about the movie, I think, is that some of the cast are veterans that were in the actual battle. According to them and other veteran's opinions I've read, this is the most realistic movie to portray outpost life to come out of Hollywood.
That was one of the spoilers I left out. In one of the interviews during the credits, a soldier who was at the Outpost was interviewed as a cast member. There were other soldiers playing themselves in this movie, too.
Also, looking at IMDB last night, Mel Gibson's son is one of the Captains in the movie.
Also, looking at IMDB last night, Mel Gibson's son is one of the Captains in the movie.
Thanks for posting
Great movie.
This movie felt realistic. It's been a long time since I embraced the suck, and I'm usually not moved to tears anymore. This one got me choked up, though.
My Dad Earl said:
Before watching the movie, I had no idea Clint Eastwood had a son. But during this movie, it naturally occured to me to this actor had to be related to Clint Eastwood somehow. I thought his look, his mannerisms and facial expressions are just like his Dad's.
What's cool about the movie, I think, is that some of the cast are veterans that were in the actual battle. According to them and other veteran's opinions I've read, this is the most realistic movie to portray outpost life to come out of Hollywood.
Scott Eastwood had a role in Fury as well. That was the first time I realized who he was
Also check out the series Generation Kill about Marines invading Iraq. Several veterans play themselves. Great series.
Damn good movie. I will watch it again tomorrow. Netflix sucks at recommending movies. I never heard of this until this thread. Yet this type of movie is right up my alley.
Well it looks like it just came to Netflix this week. I thought I had been missing it for awhile too but it must've been on a different streaming service over the summer.
I've been watching WW2 in color once a day for a week. And pretty much any historically accurate war movie I can find. But Netflix keeps recommending a show about hot women selling real estate in Beverly hills or something.
I woke up early and decided to watch this one and just finished. I have read Tappers book, but it's been a few years. The battle was done really well, and from what I remember about the book was pretty spot on. I also watched the clip posted several posts above. Keating and Ycellas situation was weird to include them with Romesha/Carter and such. Caught that one off the bat. Don't understand that one. A lot of the little things bothered me. I know it's nit pickey and they're actors but they didn't strike me as Soldiers. No eyepro at all on patrol, the gear was off, the banter back and forth seemed forced, radio etiquette bothered me. I know I know it's Hollywood and stuff but I guess one curse of having served in the GWOT is stuff like this bothering you on film. I only did one deployment to Afghanistan but our base was similar to COP Keating. We were in a valley surrounded by mountains. At least we had formidable OPs on the high ground as outer security. As a result we only ever took rockets and mortars, but sometimes up to 20 plus a day. As an artillery man out job was shoot howitzer back at bad guys and out position was isolated for the main base. So like the movie we had a similar plan to defend our perimeter then. Fall back to our two hard buildings as a last resort if we were to be attacked from the ground. And this was something we rehearsed and drilled on weekly. Fortunately I was never ever in something like the men at COP Keating experienced so much respect and glad the world is able to see what heroes look like.
I'll add one more thing, that feeling when Eastwood's character looks up at the surrounding mountains and is like WTF hit close to home. I had done two trips in Iraq previously and of course the terrain is different but when we landed at our base in Kunar Province Afghanistan and I got off the bird and looked around I though "man this is gonna be a ****ty 9 months". Very fortunately it wasnt.
Is it true, that you guys get tired of people saying, "thanks for your service" all the time?
(If you say no, then you know what's coming)
(If you say no, then you know what's coming)
aTmAg said:
Is it true, that you guys get tired of people saying, "thanks for your service" all the time?
(If you say no, then you know what's coming)
That's why they made a movie about it...
Wanat (occurred the year prior) and Keating were bad business...trying to keep folks alive in those hills wasn't easy.
I only joined for the free appetizers at Applebee's in Veterans Day.
Tapper's book was good but spent too much time on inane background details prior to the battle. I thought Romesha's book was better as far as the battle goes.
One thing I'm amazed at is the humility of HoH recipients. If I had one, I'd wear it to work, to the store, in the shower, to bed, etc. I've heard several say something to the effect of, "I wear this to honor those who didn't come back." I assumed that was some sort of "coach speak" that MoH recipients are expected to say.
But after going down a MoH youtube rabbit hole a while back, I started to understand. After watching this movie, I went down another rabbit hole about this incident. I found an interview of Clinton Romesha that I thinks help explain it. This part really drives it home. From his perspective, he didn't do enough to try to save those like Gallegos. That the things he did do would have been performed by his other teammates if they were in the exact same circumstance (had the same level of training, etc.). The rest of us clearly understand that he went above and beyond to do what he did. His fellow soldiers agree, and I bet those who died would also agree if they could speak to him from the dead. But he thinks he could have done more, and has some sense of "shame" accepting the MoH for actions that he thinks were no big deal. Especially since he lived where others died. It's ironic that those who do not have it strive for it, and those who do have it often consider it a burden.
But after going down a MoH youtube rabbit hole a while back, I started to understand. After watching this movie, I went down another rabbit hole about this incident. I found an interview of Clinton Romesha that I thinks help explain it. This part really drives it home. From his perspective, he didn't do enough to try to save those like Gallegos. That the things he did do would have been performed by his other teammates if they were in the exact same circumstance (had the same level of training, etc.). The rest of us clearly understand that he went above and beyond to do what he did. His fellow soldiers agree, and I bet those who died would also agree if they could speak to him from the dead. But he thinks he could have done more, and has some sense of "shame" accepting the MoH for actions that he thinks were no big deal. Especially since he lived where others died. It's ironic that those who do not have it strive for it, and those who do have it often consider it a burden.
Well, I'd buy you the rest of the meal if we ever happen to be at the same Applebees on Veterans day.JABQ04 said:
I only joined for the free appetizers at Applebee's in Veterans Day.
Just finished watching it. Good film. Question - why was the 3rd Captain relieved of command? If they mentioned why I missed it.
I looked it up, he is a fictional character. However he is based off a real guy named Mel Porter. I hope he is black in real life or the movie execs will have hell to pay making that change. Maybe somebody who read the book could give a more definitive explanation, but I assume word got back that he was a weak officer or something.
Think I found him on LinkedIn and he is black
He was a weak officer. I remember the NCOs wanted him to shore up defenses around the base and he wouldn't.gggmann said:
Just finished watching it. Good film. Question - why was the 3rd Captain relieved of command? If they mentioned why I missed it.
agdaddy04 said:
Well it looks like it just came to Netflix this week. I thought I had been missing it for awhile too but it must've been on a different streaming service over the summer.
It's been out for several weeks. This isn't first thread on it. I watched it about a month ago and commented on original thread which had zero traction. Look it up. I think everyone else is just now discovering it.
BTW, you just got redstoned.
Anybody else get mad at the end of this movie when they said the US was going to abandon all 'obviously indefensible' bases? Not because they are abandoning them, but the fact that they were allowed to build any bases that were 'obviously indefensible' in the first place. Makes you wonder what kind of idiots ran things previously (or maybe still do).
What was his reasoning on why not? That somehow it would appear like they don't trust the locals or something like that?Marauder Blue 6 said:He was a weak officer. I remember the NCOs wanted him to shore up defenses around the base and he wouldn't.gggmann said:
Just finished watching it. Good film. Question - why was the 3rd Captain relieved of command? If they mentioned why I missed it.
I can't find it now, but I think the same sort of thing happened prior to the bombing of US Marines in Beirut. Security was extremely weak and pleas to beef it up were ignored by some local authority (ambassador maybe?) because he didn't want it to look "threatening" to the local population.
Reading around on the internet, it sounds like the Army had several morons in leadership. There was an incident prior called the Battle of Wanat where 9 were killed and 27 wounded. One guy, Ryan M. Pitts, got the medal of honor. I'm not sure why I hadn't heard about it. Apparently the Army got reprimanded for that one too, but they rebuked the reprimand claiming that they did nothing wrong.
It also sounds like Mel Porter deserves more blame than the movie portrays. The movie never went into the fact that he refused to strengthen defenses. Investigations conclude that lack of adequate defenses is what made Keating a tempting target for insurgents in the first place.
It also sounds like Mel Porter deserves more blame than the movie portrays. The movie never went into the fact that he refused to strengthen defenses. Investigations conclude that lack of adequate defenses is what made Keating a tempting target for insurgents in the first place.
Watched this today and man it was really good. Very well done.
Liked that there wasn't much fluff and it wasn't drawn out.
Included what they needed to tell the story well.
Liked that there wasn't much fluff and it wasn't drawn out.
Included what they needed to tell the story well.
Clint's son has been in a lot of movies.My Dad Earl said:
Before watching the movie, I had no idea Clint Eastwood had a son. But during this movie, it naturally occured to me to this actor had to be related to Clint Eastwood somehow. I thought his look, his mannerisms and facial expressions are just like his Dad's.
What's cool about the movie, I think, is that some of the cast are veterans that were in the actual battle. According to them and other veteran's opinions I've read, this is the most realistic movie to portray outpost life to come out of Hollywood.
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JABQ04 said:My Dad Earl said:
Before watching the movie, I had no idea Clint Eastwood had a son. But during this movie, it naturally occured to me to this actor had to be related to Clint Eastwood somehow. I thought his look, his mannerisms and facial expressions are just like his Dad's.
What's cool about the movie, I think, is that some of the cast are veterans that were in the actual battle. According to them and other veteran's opinions I've read, this is the most realistic movie to portray outpost life to come out of Hollywood.
Scott Eastwood had a role in Fury as well. That was the first time I realized who he was
Also check out the series Generation Kill about Marines invading Iraq. Several veterans play themselves. Great series.
He was in Gran Torino and lots of crap films.
Watched it last night. It's an okay movie until they get to the battle at which point it becomes an outstanding movie.
Sidenote: Orlando Bloom playing Keating did just about the worst American accent I've ever heard. I thought he was renowned as a good actor? He's an English guy trying to play a guy from Maine but ended up with some Australian/Cockneyed accent. It was completely distracting.
Sidenote: Orlando Bloom playing Keating did just about the worst American accent I've ever heard. I thought he was renowned as a good actor? He's an English guy trying to play a guy from Maine but ended up with some Australian/Cockneyed accent. It was completely distracting.
Same with Jason Isaacs as CPT Steele in Black Hawk Down. Great actor, but not digging the over the top accents.
Yelnick McWawa said:
It's an okay movie until they get to the battle at which point it becomes an outstanding movie.
Think that's what makes it so good. Did a good job of portraying the redundancy, isolation, and dangers of outpost life. Took on almost a Jarhead vibe before it all hit the fan.
If you guys liked this movie I highly recommend the documentary Restrepo. It's a phenomenal doc about an isolated outpost in Afghanistan and how hard it was for the soldiers to alternate between boredom and battle.
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