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lamivudine
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WTF was that someone explain it to me..Who and where were those people coming from?

Overall a great series.
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So obvious. How did you miss it......















I kid. Really strange and can't explain.
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Man, I was really hoping that Smith was going renounce fascism and set the country back on track. I was thinking it would happen right up until the last couple episodes.

I guess in a way he did as he had something cooked up with his No 2 guy at the very end.
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Travelers/refugees from the other dimensions that had left and come back? There were several people that showed that ability during the series, and there were mountains of film that had been returned to both Hitler and to Hawthorne.

That's my best guess, but not exactly something that should be a secret to the viewer.
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The ending was a major WTF. I liked the series and thought it was pretty good overall. Interesting premise and it started strong. There were some really great story lines and tension-building, but I don't think all of the story lines carried meaningful weight or connected in a sensible way. It felt like it didn't equal the sum of its parts.
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It's almost like they wrote themselves into a corner and didn't know how to finish it.
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BenTheGoodAg said:

It's almost like they wrote themselves into a corner and didn't know how to finish it.
THIS. Very similar thing happened with Lost.
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https://www.ratingraph.com/tv-shows/the-man-in-the-high-castle-ratings-38650/

The finale compared to the rest tells you all you need to know.
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The ****ty last few episodes ruined the entire thing for me. One of my most hated series that I've completed.
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I think they were just people from other dimensions coming to fight to defeat the Nazis and make the world right. But ya, there wasn't a very good explanation.

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I took it as the displaced people looking for their right place in time
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i finally watched the show. really liked it. this is one where the ****ing accountants got in the way i think. i think they had a great season 4 finale show planned, then canned 5, and tried to figure out how to end it all real quick.

however, Philip K Dick is a smart enough writer to know that when tackling 'meaning of the universe' type of issues in a show, no 'clear' ending is ever going to work. After all, if someone knew the meaning of life and meaning of the universe in a way that satisfied everyone, they wouldnt reveal it in a ****ing TV miniseries.

all that said, i really liked it, even the ending.... my interpretation is the portal was bringing the universes into balance, and the people in the ****ty one (the main universe) that were dead but really shouldnt have been dead in the balance of the universes, were coming back to live there in a new world with no jap occupation or nazi extermination looming anymore in america.

i can live with that ending for sure. maybe the next show we can eliminate all the real worst bad guys, the ****ing commies.
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TriAg2010 said:

The ending was a major WTF. I liked the series and thought it was pretty good overall. Interesting premise and it started strong. There were some really great story lines and tension-building, but I don't think all of the story lines carried meaningful weight or connected in a sensible way. It felt like it didn't equal the sum of its parts.
Personally, I thought a series based on what the world would possibly look like had we lost the war and the resistance movement within the US, without all the Sci-Fi portals, alternate dimensions, etc. would have been really interesting.
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htxag09 said:

TriAg2010 said:

The ending was a major WTF. I liked the series and thought it was pretty good overall. Interesting premise and it started strong. There were some really great story lines and tension-building, but I don't think all of the story lines carried meaningful weight or connected in a sensible way. It felt like it didn't equal the sum of its parts.
Personally, I thought a series based on what the world would possibly look like had we lost the war and the resistance movement within the US, without all the Sci-Fi portals, alternate dimensions, etc. would have been really interesting.
agree. i thought that's what it was when i started it.

alternate history is fascinating stuff. i actually suppose the premise is feasible, if the nazi's had finished atomic weapons in the early 40's, that actually could have happened.
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I never really understood the hate the finale got. John could have gone one of two directions at the end: redemption or double-down and he chose the latter. Was hoping for the former because it always felt like he was on the verge and just couldn't do it. However, I thought him sticking to his evil path was more real-life than redemption.
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Canyon99 said:

The ****ty last few episodes ruined the entire thing for me. One of my most hated series that I've completed.


Seriously. What the hell was that last episode. Hell, the last season was weak and I was very excited for that show when I started it. Very bummed.
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YouBet said:

I never really understood the hate the finale got. John could have gone one of two directions at the end: redemption or double-down and he chose the latter. Was hoping for the former because it always felt like he was on the verge and just couldn't do it. However, I thought him sticking to his evil path was more real-life than redemption.


But I never really looked at him like a bad guy though because he wasn't ALL bad.
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I don't think people hated his character arc. They were baffled by the last scenes.
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Madmarttigan said:

I don't think people hated his character arc. They were baffled by the last scenes.


Buy why? I'm admittedly a little hazy at this point but it was basically a gradually then suddenly ending that is reminiscent of many regimes failing and ending.
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YouBet said:

Madmarttigan said:

I don't think people hated his character arc. They were baffled by the last scenes.


Buy why? I'm admittedly a little hazy at this point but it was basically a gradually then suddenly ending that is reminiscent of many regimes failing and ending.
Here's the showrunners being interviewed prior to the final season..

Quote:

DEADLINE: In the time since High Castle's debut in 2015, there has been a wide spread political shift in the West with the election of Donald Trump and right-wing populism parties rising up all over Europe. As the series now moves into its final season, I wanted to get a sense of, as much as you can, how you feel that the series has mirrored the time in which it has existed?

ZUCKER: I think it's been obviously disturbing to varying degrees for everybody involved with the series that there is a more sort of literal experience that can be drawn from much of what exists in the stories that we told, that we're telling in the world that, we're looking at outside of our own window.
And it's not just today.
One can look at A Night at the Garden, the Oscar nominated short documentary, where one can literally look at actual footage in 1939 of what transpired in this country. If certain things hadn't taken the course that they did during that era in history, who knows how that organization may have prevailed in mid-century America, and to what degree, you know, is that sort of informing some of the debates that are transpiring today?



DEADLINE: How much does that inform the show, especially going into the final season?

ZUCKER: As inescapable as that question is for us, in some ways it isn't the question that we have undertaken in terms of our sort of fictionalized world. But there's no questioning the deep unease that I think we all feel in the fact that this show has become more fiction-less, if that's not an awful expression to put forward.

HACKETT: I think of all times to be dramatizing this novel, there may have been no better than now, this anti-fascist tale, and so I think during this fraught time, I think that it has been not lost on anyone on this show that this is a particularly important time to be, you know, having this discourse about the dangers of fascism.
Shaking in fear of Donald Trump. Not surprising how the season turned out.

All that fascism they experienced must have been so awful..
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Woof. What a joke.
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I'm still waiting to see evidence of all the people that Donald Trump loaded into boxcars.

These people are ****ing lunatics.

Edit to add - I thought the show was great. The ending did seem a bit "huh" and was clearly rushed, but from having read the book as a teen, I've always loved the concept of the Nazis/Japs winning WWII and what the US would look like under such a scenario. The show went for a far more sci-fi aspect, but the world building was fantastic.
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Good lord. The gas lighting and delusion about him is unparalleled.

I guess because we watched it several years after it aired I didn't think about that.
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I've always maintained that the storyline would be vastly better by taking the sci-fi out. I know it's PKD but could have been amazing just on the alternate history premise.
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