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4:47p, 3/23/21
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How did she ever get parts in movies and as a leading lady in some?
HBO Max has The Shining and I have never watched it all the way through before. Think i would always catch it in the middle or at different points.
But I think part of the reason I couldn't watch it all the way through was her (and jack nicholson chewing through scenery playing Jack Nicholson).
What am I missing?
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4:57p, 3/23/21
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Pretty sure she was born to play Olive Oyl in that movie with Robin Williams
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5:22p, 3/23/21
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She won best actress at Cannes, and had a very brief career as a leading lady after that. I actually don't mind her in the shining , I think she did what Kubrick wanted.
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5:26p, 3/23/21
Is this the VORP thread?
Because Sandra Locke IMO has a much much worse VORP than Shelly Duval.
Heather Graham has a bit of that factor as well.

I'm trying to think of a male actor equivalent.
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6:04p, 3/23/21
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Great interview with her that came out recently. She's been in Blanco for the last 20 years

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/searching-for-shelley-duvall-the-reclusive-icon-on-fleeing-hollywood-and-the-scars-of-making-the-shining
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In reply to Another Doug • 9:25p, 3/23/21
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Another Doug said:
She won best actress at Cannes, and had a very brief career as a leading lady after that. I actually don't mind her in the shining , I think she did what Kubrick wanted.


Kubrick drove her insane with his perfection. I think I read somewhere the scene at the stairs took enough takes to run up the Empire State Building, and she was a broken person off the set. She had physical illness and hair loss. Kubrick demanded everyone ignore her on the set so she felt helpless. It was what he wanted for her character. I don't think she ever recovered.

For me, she's always the mom in Suburban Commando!
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In reply to cr06gis • 9:29p, 3/23/21
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cr06gis said:
Great interview with her that came out recently. She's been in Blanco for the last 20 years

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/searching-for-shelley-duvall-the-reclusive-icon-on-fleeing-hollywood-and-the-scars-of-making-the-shining


I was replying just to post this. What a fascinating article and it makes me want to explore some of those older movies she starred in.
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In reply to cr06gis • 9:42p, 3/23/21
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cr06gis said:
Great interview with her that came out recently. She's been in Blanco for the last 20 years

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/searching-for-shelley-duvall-the-reclusive-icon-on-fleeing-hollywood-and-the-scars-of-making-the-shining


Just looking at that picture of her, I could run into her at the Brookshire Bros for years and never put two and two together.
Formerly Willy Wonka
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9:58p, 3/23/21
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10:18p, 3/23/21
Part of what made Kubrick's Shining such a departure from the book is you couldn't really blame Jack for wanting to get rid of her, she was annoying af.
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In reply to Proposition Joe • 8:30a, 3/24/21
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The book is so so different. It really digs into Jack's psyche and goes into his history of breaking Danny's arm in a drunken rage, his getting fired from his prestigious job when he assaulted a student, his alcoholism, etc. It really makes it a more rich and in depth story. Now I need to read it again. Its one of my favorites.
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In reply to PDEMDHC • 9:30a, 3/24/21
Carlo4 said:
Another Doug said:
She won best actress at Cannes, and had a very brief career as a leading lady after that. I actually don't mind her in the shining , I think she did what Kubrick wanted.


Kubrick drove her insane with his perfection. I think I read somewhere the scene at the stairs took enough takes to run up the Empire State Building, and she was a broken person off the set. She had physical illness and hair loss. Kubrick demanded everyone ignore her on the set so she felt helpless. It was what he wanted for her character. I don't think she ever recovered.

For me, she's always the mom in Suburban Commando!


Aww, poor thing had to suffer through playing pretend for millions of dollars.
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In reply to cr06gis • 10:04a, 3/24/21
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cr06gis said:
Great interview with her that came out recently. She's been in Blanco for the last 20 years

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/searching-for-shelley-duvall-the-reclusive-icon-on-fleeing-hollywood-and-the-scars-of-making-the-shining

Wow - incredible article.
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10:13a, 3/24/21
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In reply to PDEMDHC • 10:32a, 3/24/21
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Carlo4 said:
Another Doug said:
She won best actress at Cannes, and had a very brief career as a leading lady after that. I actually don't mind her in the shining , I think she did what Kubrick wanted.


Kubrick drove her insane with his perfection. I think I read somewhere the scene at the stairs took enough takes to run up the Empire State Building, and she was a broken person off the set. She had physical illness and hair loss. Kubrick demanded everyone ignore her on the set so she felt helpless. It was what he wanted for her character. I don't think she ever recovered.

For me, she's always the mom in Suburban Commando!
Yeah. From what I've read Kubrick was downright abusive to her on set. Fantastic director but also pretty ruthless.
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In reply to Ghost91 • 11:09a, 3/24/21
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Ghost91 said:
Carlo4 said:
Another Doug said:
She won best actress at Cannes, and had a very brief career as a leading lady after that. I actually don't mind her in the shining , I think she did what Kubrick wanted.


Kubrick drove her insane with his perfection. I think I read somewhere the scene at the stairs took enough takes to run up the Empire State Building, and she was a broken person off the set. She had physical illness and hair loss. Kubrick demanded everyone ignore her on the set so she felt helpless. It was what he wanted for her character. I don't think she ever recovered.

For me, she's always the mom in Suburban Commando!


Aww, poor thing had to suffer through playing pretend for millions of dollars.
I think you are dramatically over-estimating how much an actress was paid to make a movie in 1979/80.
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11:13a, 3/24/21
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Check her out in Brewster McCloud w/ Bud Cort which was filmed in the Astrodome. I think it was one of her first films.
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12:14p, 3/24/21
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I thought she had gone super nuts....like straight jacket and padded room nuts and could've sworn I saw an "interview" between her and dr Phil in her house where they were trying to get her some help
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In reply to Ghost91 • 12:19p, 3/24/21
Ghost91 said:
Carlo4 said:
Another Doug said:
She won best actress at Cannes, and had a very brief career as a leading lady after that. I actually don't mind her in the shining , I think she did what Kubrick wanted.


Kubrick drove her insane with his perfection. I think I read somewhere the scene at the stairs took enough takes to run up the Empire State Building, and she was a broken person off the set. She had physical illness and hair loss. Kubrick demanded everyone ignore her on the set so she felt helpless. It was what he wanted for her character. I don't think she ever recovered.

For me, she's always the mom in Suburban Commando!


Aww, poor thing had to suffer through playing pretend for millions of dollars.
Millions in the 70's?
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In reply to jokershady • 12:38p, 3/24/21
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jokershady said:
I thought she had gone super nuts....like straight jacket and padded room nuts and could've sworn I saw an "interview" between her and dr Phil in her house where they were trying to get her some help
Read that article, they go into the "Dr." Phil thing.
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In reply to LisaMarie • 12:47p, 3/24/21
LisaMarie said:
The book is so so different. It really digs into Jack's psyche and goes into his history of breaking Danny's arm in a drunken rage, his getting fired from his prestigious job when he assaulted a student, his alcoholism, etc. It really makes it a more rich and in depth story. Now I need to read it again. Its one of my favorites.

But relating it to Duvall - Wendy in the book is likeable. Strong, beautiful woman that you are rooting for (both to save the family unit and then later just to survive).

Wendy in the movie is nails on chalkboard from jump street (or jump mountain road?).
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4:44p, 3/24/21
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In the made for tv Shining, she was played by Rebecca DeMornay, who was much better.
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In reply to TXAG 05 • 2:15p, 3/25/21
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I haven't seen the TV version since it aired, but if I recall, it was much truer to the book.
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2:40p, 3/25/21
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Good read, thanks for sharing the article - had no idea her ties to Texas and Houston. Some people just want to be left alone. Good for her and Gilroy
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10:04p, 3/25/21
The TV version followed the book much more closely.

Unfortunately outside of the great job Rebecca Demornay did with Wendy, you had Stephen Weber over-acting Jack and a Danny that basically replaced Duvall as wholly unlikable and you were rooting against him surviving.
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7:18a, 3/26/21
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The tv Danny was annoying, but it's not like the kid in the movie version was that great either. If anything Weber showed Jack's descent much better, as opposed to Nicholson who instantly went crazy.
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7:27a, 3/26/21
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Fairytale Theater
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In reply to Proposition Joe • 8:45a, 3/26/21
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Proposition Joe said:
The TV version followed the book much more closely.

Unfortunately outside of the great job Rebecca Demornay did with Wendy, you had Stephen Weber over-acting Jack and a Danny that basically replaced Duvall as wholly unlikable and you were rooting against him surviving.
Exactly and after Wings I could never buy Weber in that role, and his "acting" didn't help matters. Loved him on Wings though. Yeah that kid sucked too...I did like how they were more faithful to the book, which is still one of my favorites and one that really did scare the crap out of me as a kid.
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In reply to expresswrittenconsent • 12:44a, 3/27/21
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WTF is VORP?
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4:08p, 3/27/21
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She is a nut living out in Blanco. She gave is permission to lay a survey panel down for a flight. We went out there and let her know we were out there and she went off like a crazy lady. Her hair was long, grey and scary looking. This was in 2002.
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