Shogun 10-episode miniseries coming to FX

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- In this context, FX is a cable channel, one that is prone to whatever potential broadcast restrictions/traditions, hence this is likely where edited version airs.

- Hulu is an app/streaming platform, unbound by any potential restrictions/traditions, hence this is almost assuredly where the unedited version airs.

- Hulu is also in the middle of a transition to/merge with Disney+, and at some point this year will no longer be a standalone app. In fact, right now, you can find Hulu as its own tab within Disney+.

In short, Disney owns FX, Hulu, and obviously Disney+. If you're a cable subscriber, you can watch Shogun on FX. If you're an app subscriber, you can watch Shogun on Hulu or Disney+.

Personally, I'm a subscriber to both, but always choose to watch shows on the apps/streamers, if only because the quality/bit rate is so much better there, and FX doesn't always air in 4K on cable, whereas 4K is standard on the apps/streamers.
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EclipseAg said:

I watched both episodes last night. Very, very good. It's got a beautiful look to it. Really draws you in.

I had trouble figuring out the Japanese names and who was who, but I have that problem with every show/movie with lots of characters.
FX has some resources for keeping things straight.



Also, https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/shogun/viewers-guide/characters
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TCTTS said:

- In this context, FX is a cable channel, one that is prone to whatever potential broadcast restrictions/traditions, hence this is likely where edited version airs.

- Hulu is a app/streaming platform, unbound by any potential restrictions/traditions, hence this is almost assuredly where the unedited version airs.

- Hulu is also in the middle of a transition to/merge with Disney+, and at some point this year will no longer be a standalone app. In fact, right now, you can find Hulu as its own tab within Disney+.

In short, Disney owns FX, Hulu, and obviously Disney+. If you're a cable subscriber, you can watch Shogun on FX. If you're an app subscriber, you can watch Shogun on Hulu or Disney+.

Personally, I'm a subscriber to both, but always choose to watch shows on the apps/streamers, if only because the quality/bit rate is so much better there, and FX doesn't always air in 4K on cable, whereas 4K is standard on the apps/streamers.
Thanks for the detailed response. I am familiar with all of that. But appreciate.

The part I was look for clarification . given 1 source is apparently going to filter some content and the other will not, which is the one that is likely not doing any censoring?
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Hulu is almost assuredly the one not censoring. I should have used "censored" instead of "edited."
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TCTTS said:

Hulu is almost assuredly the one not censoring. I should have used "censored" instead of "edited."
got it. Thx. my concern was because of the merging of Hulu and Disney+ i was thinking Hulu might be the one more likely to edit because of the upcoming merger of services.
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Gotcha. I initially had that same concern, but since the merger Disney+ has embraced all of the FX/Fox R-rated material. In fact, just a couple days ago I logged onto Disney+ and was surprised to see both Deadpool movies being advertised front and center in the Marvel tab. They finally said screw it and are letting Disney+ be more than just an app primarily for kids.
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TCTTS said:

Gotcha. I initially had that same concern, but since the merger Disney+ has embraced all of the FX/Fox R-rated material. In fact, just a couple days ago I logged onto Disney+ and was surprised to see both Deadpool movies being advertised front and center in the Marvel tab. They finally said screw it and are letting Disney+ be more than just an app primarily for kids.
you also need to stop posting on texags and go watch the first two episodes, in case you have not.

i expect a Shogun novel length post from you when you do.
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Been saving it for tonight, based on reactions in this thread and online. About to grab some dinner and dive in.
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TCTTS said:

Been saving it for tonight, based on reactions in this thread and online. About to grab some dinner and dive in.
i predict at least 7 edits.
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In the show or in my reaction post?
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TCTTS said:

In the show or in my reaction post?
reaction post.

let's be honest. your floor is always at least 5.

even when the show/movie does not deserve it.



that said, I am 100% confident you are going to love this.

Even if the story has been told many times before the level of execution across the board on this production is amazing.
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Wife wanted to try to watch with Mr despite my caution. She threw in the towel 30 minutes in once they boiled that one dude alive.
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Cromagnum said:

Wife wanted to try to watch with Mr despite my caution. She threw in the towel 30 minutes in once they boiled that one dude alive.
very few scenes like that so far. this is not GoT in that regard. I can think of two beheadings and that scene for anything that might make someone queasy. Even the squalor scenes in the prison/jail are much more sanitized than they would likely have been in the "real world".
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Why the heck can I not find Shogun on Disney Plus? My settings are adult. Is it because I have YouTube TV and FX App?
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Did you use the actual Disney+ search feature? When I do it comes up for me, no problem.
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TCTTS said:

Did you use the actual Disney+ search feature? When I do it comes up for me, no problem.


Yep…weird, oh well found it works on my FX app. Halfway through first ep and it's got my attention.
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Watched both yesterday. Really into it. i'm a history lover and this is a story and era and area i'm not very familiar with.

has anyone had trouble getting past the fact that John is the possible scientific mixed child of andrew lincoln and Ryan Phillipe.

it's all i can think about
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TresPuertas said:

has anyone had trouble getting past the fact that John is the possible scientific mixed child of andrew lincoln and Ryan Phillipe.
I've only seen the first episode but I feel he is the next iteration of Tom Hardy. Tom Hardy -> Logan Marshall-Green -> This guy .
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El Gallo Blanco said:

Why the heck can I not find Shogun on Disney Plus? My settings are adult. Is it because I have YouTube TV and FX App?


hulu
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Watched the first episode. Badass.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

Watched the first episode. Badass.
Yep.

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zap said:

If you like Shogun, check out "Age of Samurai: Battle for Japan" on Netflix. It is excellent.



I knew the name "Toranaga" sounded familiar and when I dug into it, that character is based off of Tokugawa Ieyasu, who is covered in that Netflix special. I presume we will see something similar to the Battle of Tekigahara in the show.
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https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-real-history-behind-fxs-shogun-180983848/

Here is a short Smithsonian article about the people the novel/show is based on.

I've only watched the first episode, and maybe it's unimportant, but I thought they undersold both Omni's intelligence and Yugi's sadistic nature.
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i mean.. you can read all that stuff, but you are likely to spoil yourself to general plot points if you are watching the show with no prior information.
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C@LAg said:

i mean.. you can read all that stuff, but you are likely to spoil yourself to general plot points if you are watching the show with no prior information.

True but for me I ended up downloading the audiobook anyway. I can't wait until the next episode.
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Just finished first two episodes and loving this show. Hope it doesn't let me down.

Tom Hardy from Wish actually does a pretty solid job. Tonaga's an badass. And the translator chick? Would marry.
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William Foster said:

Tonaga's an badass.
you mean Shimazu Akira of the Osaka Continental?
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Hiroyuki Sanada rules in everything. It's a shame his role in Endgame was so brief.
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Watched both episodes, and I will say this. Partway through episode 1 I was not sure why everyone was speaking so highly of the show.
The latter part of episode 1 and all of episode 2 really deliver the goods.
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and I KNEW that was Richard from Lost as Rodrigues in Episode 1, great actor
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Watch it again. I caught a TON of things I missed the first time. I bet if I watch it yet a 3rd time I will catch more stuff I missed.
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Pissing on the guy's back and boiling the one guy alive were both in the original mini-series from 1980.
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Another solid episode.
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I watch shows like this on CC to try and keep up but man this one is tough. Other than the main 3-4 people, I have a hard time keeping up with their names, but then you throw them all in helmets, fighting, at night….and I'm completely lost.

I'm enjoying the heck out of it but wow it's a test of concentration and context clues.
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Stive said:

I watch shows like this on CC to try and keep up but man this one is tough. Other than the main 3-4 people, I have a hard time keeping up with their names, but then you throw them all in helmets, fighting, at night….and I'm completely lost.

I'm enjoying the heck out of it but wow it's a test of concentration and context clues.
Gotta watch it at least twice. I catch a lot of stuff I missed the first time.
 
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