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SquirrellyDan
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I've had ideas for fiction novels I've been playing with in my mind for years. I was a good writer in college but never pursued it any further than what was necessary for school.

I've started writing before, got a couple chapters in, then re-read and felt silly, forgot about them and moved on to my other hobbies. Any tips on resources I can seek out or any other general advice? Thanks in advance.
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Create an outline of loose events for the story. They can be well formed or just nebulous thoughts about a certain scene, a certain feeling, or anything in between. Those little sparks in your head about what you would love to see on the page? Write them down. Breathe life into them while they are fresh in your head. Don't let them grow stale. Capture their emotions before your brain decides they aren't worth the space and flushes them.

Sit down and write every single day. Even if it doesn't seem good enough. Get the ideas out of your head and onto paper (or a screen, I guess). Dedicate time to it.

Don't feel compelled to write the book in order. Treat it like you're filming a movie. if you know that certain scenes are vital, write them down. You can reorganize later. Getting the big pieces down makes it easier to figure out how to tie them together.

With the exception of listening to music possibly, do not tolerate any other distractions while you work. Lock the door, turn the TV off, put the phone on silent, wait til the house is empty, whatever it takes. Your work and your characters deserve your full attention.

When you write dialogue, don't be an idiot and start saying "he replied" and "she pontificated" and "she emphasized" - just use "said" or just use the quotes. Stop trying to show off how many vocabulary words you know.

if you can't use "..." the right way, don't use it at all.

Don't steal from other work, but feel free to borrow things that you like - turns of phrase, certain descriptive words, the way a writer paints the picture of a location, etc.

Draw on your own real-life experiences and emotions. This can be very difficult to do, because you're often reliving your most painful, shuttered experiences and things you'd rather not remember. But authenticity is a key to drawing in readers and having them leave the real world behind for the one you're building. Give it everything you have. Make them cry your tears and feel your losses.

If you'd like to talk some more, you can use my TexAgs garbage email address: txagssurvivor@mail.com, but be sure to reply to this message saying that you emailed me, as I rarely check it.

Ulrich
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I'm not published, but my best habit is probably writing down every idea when I have it. I have hundreds of thousands of words of world building notes, quotes, evocative phrases, character sketches, plot outlines, paragraphs / chapters, dialogue snippets, etc.

It's hard for me to free up the mental energy to do much actual writing these days, but continuing to add to and periodically organize and structure the corpus of crap keeps the ideas developing so that I won't have to start from zero.
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SquirrellyDan said:

I've had ideas for fiction novels I've been playing with in my mind for years. I was a good writer in college but never pursued it any further than what was necessary for school.

I've started writing before, got a couple chapters in, then re-read and felt silly, forgot about them and moved on to my other hobbies. Any tips on resources I can seek out or any other general advice? Thanks in advance.
This is one of the most natural things ever. Something to keep in mind is that you're not going to just wake up one day and be the next Hemmingway. Like any other skill, writing takes practice, and if it's something you want to do, you have to do it constantly. I've been self-publishing for years, and it's always amazing to me to look back and compare what I wrote a decade ago to what I wrote last year. It may still not be any good, but it's leaps and bounds above what it used to be. What I have put out is only a fraction of what I've ever written, but I still consider even the bad pieces I've written to be learning experiences.

In terms of resources, there's a ton of them out there online, especially with how big self publishing has become. Reddit has some great writing communities, so I'd start there, particularly with /r/writing, which can point you to more niche communities and give recommendations on online resources, as well as providing focused discussion around writing as a craft. I've also found /r/writingprompts as a great place to just flex my writing skills on some flash fiction and typically get immediate feedback.
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I've thought about trying to write the great American novel, but something tells me I not the next "Grandma Moses" of literature.

I did read Stephen King's "On Writing." It's pretty good, but what I learned is that while talent is important, it takes a lot of plain hard work to be successful.
MooreTrucker
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I plan on writing a book someday, but it'll be non-fiction.
mic suede
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I self publish under the pen name Ben Shapiro.
Dr. Mephisto
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I have published.

I am working in a long piece of fiction right now.

I just hope it doesn't suck.
Fat Bib Fortuna
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I've ghostwritten about 150 books in the past 3 years and more than 200 in the past 8 years, most of them non-fiction and not very exciting, but some fun stuff.

I wrote a "historical horror" novel last year for a client and got so deep into my own fears that I had to stop writing it late one night and sit on the couch with all the lights on for about 2 hours before I was able to sleep!
MooreTrucker
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Email sent
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I'm not a published author but my wife is a #1 NYT Bestseller, an international bestseller, published in 15 or 20 countries, and a fairly new screenwriter

The best writing advice is that all writing advice is bull ***** There isn't some secret code or magic method because what works for one author won't work for another.

I don't suggest writing every day. sometimes writing just for the sake of writing is going to produce garbage. Try to develop your Work In Progress (WIP) but understand that sometimes it just isn't going to work and that its okay to take a break. Your WIP is going to be there when you get back and inspiration often comes from a variety of places. Books, movies, music, tv, even being out in public. My wife's first book idea came from time when her library was nearly wiped out by a tornado.

Try and read a lot of whatever genre you are writing. Its going to help you identify what good looks like and also what bad writing looks like. Read current stuff. The classics are great but they aren't going to help you sell a book in today's market.

Find out if you are a plotter or a pantser. Do you prefer to plot and outline your whole novel first or do you write by the seat of your pants and develop the plot as you go. Again everyone is different.

Beyond that, below is the standard advice I give everyone when it comes to getting published. Keep in mind its solely based on my wife experiences in YA, Adult Fiction, Screenwriting, and Romance (if you are writing romance or screenwriting the process can be wildly different).

The first thing you need to ask yourself is, "What do I want from this project?" Are you looking for commercial success or do you care more about getting your story out there? If you are wanting to get your story out there, you can go the self publishing route. It's far easier but is much less likely to produce a financial windfall. If you want to self publish it's as simple as writing the book and self publishing through amazon (like their kindle direct service). If you want to go the traditional publishing route, that's a bit more involved. The first thing you need to do is write your book. It really depends on the book and genre, but most are going to be around 50,000 to 90,000 words. As you are writing the book, you should have someone critique it. Most authors have a critique partner that they trade work with. You basically read each other's stuff and provide feedback. If you can't find someone to work with, you can always pay for a professional editor.

Once you have your manuscript in what you feel like is acceptable condition, you need to find an agent. You want to find an agent that represents work like yours. Twitter is a great resource for this. Read the agent's website and see if they are accepting submissions and what they want. Most require a query letter which is kind of like a sales pitch. It's a quick letter that states who you are, what your book is about, and why you think they would be a good fit. These need to be short and concise. The agent most likely isn't even going to read it, their intern will. If the intern likes it, they pass it on to the agent who makes the call if they want to represent you. Do not send it to every agent out there, be selective. There are a ton of resources available online about how to write a query letter as well as several good books. The following websites are good sources when it comes to query letters
https://querytracker.net/
https://queryshark.blogspot.com/


If you end up with an agent, they then work with you to fine tune your book. Then they go out and sell your book to a publisher which is how you eventually get paid. That is a whole other matter and to be honest it is difficult to write full time. A few notes though when it comes to agents. You should never pay someone to be your literary agent. They get paid when you get paid. They basically get 2-10% of anything you make, so you should never pay anyone to be your agent or sell your book. Most agents are going to be based in NYC because that is where most publishers are based. Nonfiction work can be slightly different so it is worth checking into.

Once a publisher buys the rights to your book you will be paid an advance. This is short for advance against future sales. Advances for authors vary wildly. It could be as little as a few thousand dollars to tens of thousands. Your agent will get paid from that advance money. This will be the only pay you receive until you earn out. That means the royalty you would typically receive from the sale of a single book goes back to the publisher until you pay off the initial advance payment. There are a lot of other things that occur, but that is the basic idea of how traditional publishing works.

Please know that this is a tough and trying process. I don't want to discourage you at all, but I do want to be honest. Traditional publishing is tough at times. Most authors take years to get published and sometimes not at all. Even fewer can make a living just as a published author. Just know that it is tough and not being instantly successful doesn't mean you are a failure or don't have a good story. Sometimes it's a bit of luck and timing.

I hope this helps and I wish you good luck on your journey.




Rudyjax
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Some good stuff here. Here's a YouTube series my favorite writer did.

SquirrellyDan
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This has all been fantastic. I'm truly grateful. Will take all of this info, check out some of the resources mentioned, and start making a plan. If I have any success or reach any milestones I'll update here. Thanks again.
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