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Is Romeo and Juliet really a great love story?

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AustinAg2K
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Or is Romeo just a murderous pedophile?

I don't get why English teachers love to teach that it's romantic to creep outside a prepubescent girl's bed room and then go murder her family. No wonder so many kids grow up and get into toxic relationships.
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What got your jimmies all rustled?
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I always thought it was a dumb story. Here's another hot take, Shakespeare is overrated.
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DargelSkout said:

I always thought it was a dumb story. Here's another hot take, Shakespeare is overrated.


Whatever man, Shakespeare was like the Lil Nas X of his time.
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Prepubescent? Isn't she 15?
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It's like the Beatles. Kind of lame now, mind blowing at the time. Got to consider the time and situation to fully get it. True in most things, but not religion.
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The moral of Romeo and Juliet in 1597 was "listen to your parents". It wasn't supposed to be a love story, just a cautionary tale about horny kids making terrible decisions because they didn't do what they were told.
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AustinAg2K said:

Or is Romeo just a murderous pedophile?

I don't get why English teachers love to teach that it's romantic to creep outside a prepubescent girl's bed room and then go murder her family. No wonder so many kids grow up and get into toxic relationships.
Why's Romeo gotta be the bad guy? Juliet was only 13 at the time, but maybe that spicy little Capulet shoulda kept her knees together!
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All I know is the 1996 film is the best version of the Story ever made.
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Claude!
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Great Dire Straits song.
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this! We watched this film as a class after reading the play in high school and the way the deaths were done at the end gave the tragedy so much more weight.

that and john leguziamo as Tibalt was just perfection
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Duncan Idaho said:

All I know is the 1996 film is the best version of the Story ever made.
Gonna have to disagree.

The homage put together for the town of Sandford is the best version ever made.

Duncan Idaho
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I also love the indigo girls cover of the Dire Straights song of the same name.
Rudyjax
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I just remember the rack on Juliet in the 70s version of the movie.
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jenn96 said:

The moral of Romeo and Juliet in 1597 was "listen to your parents". It wasn't supposed to be a love story, just a cautionary tale about horny kids making terrible decisions because they didn't do what they were told.

I taught R and J to on-level ninth graders for about 10 years, and I pretty much agree with Jenn's comment.

Romeo begins the play as a Renaissance "type," the callow youth in love with love (Rosaline). Whether he actually matures during the play when he turns his affections to Juliet is a matter of debate.

The play explores the consequences of rebelling against one's parents at a time when--as Lord Capulet reminds his daughter--well-to-do parents essentially owned their children and married them off as a way of solidifying business and political arrangements.

The play shows the bad side of the power-hungry parents, but it also demonstrates the rashness of youth.

The beginning of the work famously calls the two lovers "star-crossed," meaning that their fate is pre-determined, but the play actually shows just the reverse: the two young people are done in by a combination of their own obsession and their parents' urge to use and control them.

And the language, of course, is beautiful.

One year a young woman seated at the front of my class listened as a classmate read Romeo's lines:

See, how she leans her cheek upon her hand!
O, that I were a glove upon that hand,
That I might touch that cheek!

My student let out a long, deep, completely unselfconscious sigh and said, "I wish some guy would say that to me!" Not a soul giggled.


And the best movie version is by Zeffirelli, 1968.
AustinAg2K
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Kevin the 3-legged dog said:

I just remember the rack on Juliet in the 70s version of the movie.
As discussed in another thread, Juliet was only 15 when they filmed that version...
Tanya 93
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Also Juliet's mother was 12 when she had her.
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AustinAg2K
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Goose said:

AustinAg2K said:

Or is Romeo just a murderous pedophile?

I don't get why English teachers love to teach that it's romantic to creep outside a prepubescent girl's bed room and then go murder her family. No wonder so many kids grow up and get into toxic relationships.
Why's Romeo gotta be the bad guy? Juliet was only 13 at the time, but maybe that spicy little Capulet shoulda kept her knees together!
I like your take. Juliet doesn't care who gets killed, so long as she gets her nightly urges fulfilled. Should have been called "Romeo and Lolita."
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AustinAg2K said:

Kevin the 3-legged dog said:

I just remember the rack on Juliet in the 70s version of the movie.
As discussed in another thread, Juliet was only 15 when they filmed that version...


Well I was 15 too.
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