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National Treasure: Edge of History

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oragator
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Apparently Disney is making a series out of it. Without Cage or Kruger from what it looks like. This just isn't where I hoped the next piece of this franchise would go.

https://deadline.com/2022/07/national-treasure-edge-of-history-harvey-keitel-reprise-peter-sadusky-trailer-comic-con-1235074225/
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Honestly, if they capture the same charm as the movies, I don't care about the new cast.
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How can I say this nicely… you had a winning formula with Cage and the gang. Then they woke it all up with a new cast.

Hard pass. They bring Cage in as a mentor figure, then we'll talk.
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Yep, Nic Cage or bust.
The Dirty Sock
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Nope, needs cage. Receding hairline and all
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They've got Justin Bartha as the mentor figure. That's as bad as the time on Episodes where Matt LeBlanc couldn't get any of the friends costars to be on Pucks so he had to go with Gunther.
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I look forward to Justin Bartha getting drugged and kidnapped while the other cast members go on quirky escapades to solve the mysterious disappearance, only to find out Bartha was on the roof of some historical monument the whole time. And he is sunburned.
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So if anything has a minority or female as a lead role is woke? I didn't see anything woke from the trailer
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sharpshot said:

So if anything has a minority or female as a lead role is woke? I didn't see anything woke from the trailer


So anything that ORIGINALLY had a white male lead and is replaced with a minority female that in my mind categorizes it as woke overcompensation. Come up with something new and put in whatever token character you want and let the story speak for itself.
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Nicholas cage wasn't replaced, this is a spin-off
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Yeah, no thanks...

Big Slice
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Looks very Outer Banks-esque
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That preview just gave me this vibe.


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HeadGames said:

How can I say this nicely… you had a winning formula with Cage and the gang. Then they woke it all up with a new cast.

Hard pass. They bring Cage in as a mentor figure, then we'll talk.
Please explain how they "woke it all up" ? Should be entertaining to read
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We can all hem and haw but there is a 100.0000% chance that Nic Cage is in whatever the season finale is.
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Quote:

So anything that ORIGINALLY had a white male lead and is replaced with a minority female that in my mind categorizes it as woke overcompensation
He's not being replaced, it's a different character.

Regardless, what specifically was it about Cage's character that you feel requires it to be played by a white male?
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Cause only white men can be leads without it being woke apparently
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The fact of the matter is that they've been trying to make a third National Treasure movie - with Cage and the original cast - for YEARS, but haven't been able to crack the script. They got close on a draft a while back, that had something to do with some French something or other artifact (I can't remember what my friend who's worked on the movies and read various draft said it was), but point is, it wasn't for a lack of trying.

Once Disney+ became a thing, though, what they *were* able to crack was a "new generation" type series, that had more time to breathe and develop than what the limitations of a two-hour movie allowed. Could they have figured out a way to have Cage's character as the mentor in this series instead of Justin Bartha's? I'm certain they would have loved nothing more. But I'm guessing Cage either had scheduling conflicts (dude is busy as hell with other projects) - or - he didn't want to do TV (at least in a starring capacity, at least not in the first season).

In other words, Cage wasn't "replaced."

Do some of you REALLY think that they ACTIVELY decided to leave NICHOLAS CAGE out of a Nation Treasure TV series, in favor the fourth guy in the Hangover movies and a bunch of young actors no one's ever heard of? Just to score imaginary "woke" points over gaining tangible subscriptions, which would lead to actual financial gain? I swear, the mental gymnastics some of you perform, just so you can act offended on the internet by the "libs" and "woke culture," in the most obtuse, most ill-informed fashion, will never not surprise me.

As for the diversity of the new cast itself, the point, as with all of these things, is to appeal to the broadest audience possible. Which means casting as many people of as many different cultural backgrounds as possible, so as to appeal to a wider, global audience. Because the wider the audience the more $$$ Disney makes, and as gung-ho for capitalism as so many of the anti-woke are, one would think they'd applaud such efforts.
The Porkchop Express
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Couldn't get a script? I could write that script in an hour.
TCTTS
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Let me clarify... they couldn't get a GOOD script.
The Porkchop Express
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TCTTS said:

Let me clarify... they couldn't get a GOOD script.
Did you see the first two?
TCTTS
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They were fun!
Gigem314
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Would have preferred a third film with the original cast.

Treasure hunting stories are great, and this would be a fun concept...but it just feels like they're using the 'National Treasure' name with a few references for a completely different feel and story from the original. A bunch of 20-somethings using their 'years of experience' to figure out elaborate secrets across the globe. It just seems forced. Kind of like The Walking Dead going from the original cast (Rick, Michonne, Maggie, Darryl, Carol) to the new 'Walking Dead World Beyond' with a young cast. Definitely not the same feel no matter how hard you try and put it in the same universe.

What made The Goonies and Stranger Things so great was making the story relatable to the age of the characters. This just feels like a heist film where they felt the need to plug in a young cast to get kids on Disney+ to watch it.
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TCTTS said:

The fact of the matter is that they've been trying to make a third National Treasure movie - with Cage and the original cast - for YEARS, but haven't been able to crack the script.
Did they check on the back of the Declaration of Independence for clues?

Sorry I couldn't resist.
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Already cancelled.

https://deadline.com/2023/04/national-treasure-canceled-disney-plus-one-season-1235333817/
Charlie Conway
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the show was really the worst thing I've seen online in a while
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I didn't even watch it. Saw like half a trailer and moved on
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Already cancelled.

https://deadline.com/2023/04/national-treasure-canceled-disney-plus-one-season-1235333817/
Wrec86 Ag
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It was really bad in an endearing kind of way.

So many eye rolling moments … like someone taking a sword through the back, "dying" within seconds, only to somehow miraculously survive because hey, it's Disney, I guess.

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