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Interview with the Vampire (series)

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The Debt
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So there has been a trend-ish of turning films into series to cash in on IP. Thinking of Fargo or From Dusk til Dawn.

AMC has tried to cash in on Interview with the Vampire. The problem is two fold.

First, you arent going to replicate Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise's charisma or acting chops. They went with relatively unknown actors. (yeah yeah yeah the lead is Greyworm from GOTs, but no one was blown away from acting of the stoic eunuch who fell in love with Melisandre; he was a tertiary character on a LARGE ensemble cast). The story, at its core, is Louis conveying humanity and regret....the brooding vampire that misses humanity.

Secondly, (here we go) is race-swapping the character for a more "creole" look. Yes Louis is in Louisiana. Yes, Louisiana had mixed demographics, but Louis is a white aristocrat, born in France, with wealth and slaves and a rigid Roman Catholic background. When you make him black because its 2022, his position and social dynamic is not faithful to Rice's creation. "Representation" basturdized the character.
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Already a thread, and especially welcomed, with none of the endless, obsessive complaining about race-swapping...

https://texags.com/forums/13/topics/3325104
Definitely Not A Cop
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https://instagr.am/p/CinRbHrjn3h
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The Debt
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2nd page...I guess that means folks are really riveted by this shameless cash grab
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Ffs, where it makes sense or doesnt matter, the moronic push to ensure that 12% of the population is pushed into 60% of roles is ignored by everyone, even though maybe people should be thinking about why it is being pushed from the top down.

Where it is so absurd that it ruins the role and cant be ignored, then it is just **** filmmaking - and that is worthy of comment.

I wouldnt cast david letterman to play ali, or mlk, just like i wouldnt cast whoopi goldberg to play robert e lee or steve jobs.

It's getting that ridiculous.

As far as this show goes, it definitely will be hard to really capture the sultry history of new orleans.
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cbr said:

Ffs, where it makes sense or doesnt matter, the moronic push to ensure that 12% of the population is pushed into 60% of roles is ignored by everyone, even though maybe people should be thinking about why it is being pushed from the top down.

Where it is so absurd that it ruins the role and cant be ignored, then it is just **** filmmaking - and that is worthy of comment.

I wouldnt cast david letterman to play ali, or mlk, just like i wouldnt cast whoopi goldberg to play robert e lee or steve jobs.

It's getting that ridiculous.

As far as this show goes, it definitely will be hard to really capture the sultry history of new orleans.

That's the thing, though. In 99.9% of these instances, it doesn't matter. It makes no difference whatsoever, on any level that anyone enjoying this stuff gives a sh*t about. The only people raising a stink about it are a handful of you who seem to hate these stories and the people who make them anyway. So why get so worked up about it in the first place?

No. One. Else. Cares.

How do you guys not see how comical and dumb it comes across to rant and rave on the internet about the races of mermaids, elves, and vampires??? Even if you have an inkling of a half-valid point from time to time, the only people's enjoyment that's being ruined is yours, and that's only because you're allowing it to, looking for any reason whatsoever to be offended, so you can express your rage to a bunch of people who don't want to hear it.

Especially when you're ALWAYS complaining about a character's race being made black, while NEVER having complained about the white-washing of pop culture characters of color throughout history (as perfectly exemplified in that meme posted in The Little Mermaid thread). In other words, to most of us it comes across as something more than you guys having issues with "accuracy," hence us being so over and done with your hypocrisy.
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TCTTS said:

cbr said:

Ffs, where it makes sense or doesnt matter, the moronic push to ensure that 12% of the population is pushed into 60% of roles is ignored by everyone, even though maybe people should be thinking about why it is being pushed from the top down.

Where it is so absurd that it ruins the role and cant be ignored, then it is just **** filmmaking - and that is worthy of comment.

I wouldnt cast david letterman to play ali, or mlk, just like i wouldnt cast whoopi goldberg to play robert e lee or steve jobs.

It's getting that ridiculous.

As far as this show goes, it definitely will be hard to really capture the sultry history of new orleans.

That's the thing, though. In 99.9% of these instances, it doesn't matter. It makes no difference whatsoever, on any level that anyone enjoying this stuff gives a sh*t about. The only people raising a stink about it are a handful of you who seem to hate these stories and the people who make them anyway. So why get so worked up about it in the first place?

No. One. Else. Cares.

How do you guys not see how comical and dumb it comes across to rant and rave on the internet about the races of mermaids, elves, and vampires??? Even if you have an inkling of a half-valid point from time to time, the only people's enjoyment that's being ruined is yours, and that's only because you're allowing it to, looking for any reason whatsoever to be offended, so you can express your rage to a bunch of people who don't want to hear it.

Especially when you're ALWAYS complaining about a character's race being made black, while NEVER having complained about the white-washing of pop culture characters of color throughout history (as perfectly exemplified in that meme posted in The Little Mermaid thread). In other words, to most of us it comes across as something more than you guys having issues with "accuracy," hence us being so over and done with your hypocrisy.
Lol - some people are making minor comments or jokes about garbage filming choices that are so ridiculous they distract from the quality of the show. No one is ranting but you - attacking the slightest joke or comment about it

These are deliberately divisive and counterproductive political choice by hollywood management, deliberately attempting to push political goals at the expense of their own product.

Yet we are still watching, and let it go with only minor jokes or comments,

Why are you so vehemently defending the politically driven undermining of quality entertainment with such desperate vitriol? You really should ask yourself that.

No one here has ever defended stupid **** like casting john wayne as ghengis khan or whatever. That looks just as ridiculous. But that wasnt a racist divisive political choice. That was because john wayne sold tickets.


The **** going on now is different. This doesnt sell tickets. It is management pushing political indoctrination a the expense of sales.

You pulled the curtain back on yourself in your last post - hypocrite accusation with racist implication.

Now THAT is true hypocrisy.
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Interview With a Vampire was always a guilty pleasure of mine. I would probably check the show out if I end up being bored and need something to watch. I don't know the backstory of the characters, so it doesn't bother me much, but can definitely see how it completely changes the character. I also don't find it as absolutely ridiculous as the race-swapping in the Rings of Power.

You have to remember that TCTTS is the ET board police, and must jump on any critique of Hollywood. Even though Hollywood has literally made it a crusade of theirs to race-swap and force representation, we are not allowed to talk about it on the ET board because it makes TCTTS upset. Despite our praise and appreciation of all the great black actors and roles in the past 60 some odd years, we will be accused of being racists by TCTTS and his cult on this board.
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Here's an entertainment question from a 'hypocrite' -

these unknown minority actors landing these big roles out of context - are they getting as rich as the international hollywood elite management harvey weinstein types pushing these political choices? I honestly dont know the answer, i hope they are…..but i have a guess that maybe they arent.
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TCTTS said:

cbr said:

Ffs, where it makes sense or doesnt matter, the moronic push to ensure that 12% of the population is pushed into 60% of roles is ignored by everyone, even though maybe people should be thinking about why it is being pushed from the top down.

Where it is so absurd that it ruins the role and cant be ignored, then it is just **** filmmaking - and that is worthy of comment.

I wouldnt cast david letterman to play ali, or mlk, just like i wouldnt cast whoopi goldberg to play robert e lee or steve jobs.

It's getting that ridiculous.

As far as this show goes, it definitely will be hard to really capture the sultry history of new orleans.

That's the thing, though. In 99.9% of these instances, it doesn't matter. It makes no difference whatsoever, on any level that anyone enjoying this stuff gives a sh*t about. The only people raising a stink about it are a handful of you who seem to hate these stories and the people who make them anyway. So why get so worked up about it in the first place?

No. One. Else. Cares.

How do you guys not see how comical and dumb it comes across to rant and rave on the internet about the races of mermaids, elves, and vampires??? Even if you have an inkling of a half-valid point from time to time, the only people's enjoyment that's being ruined is yours, and that's only because you're allowing it to, looking for any reason whatsoever to be offended, so you can express your rage to a bunch of people who don't want to hear it.

Especially when you're ALWAYS complaining about a character's race being made black, while NEVER having complained about the white-washing of pop culture characters of color throughout history (as perfectly exemplified in that meme posted in The Little Mermaid thread). In other words, to most of us it comes across as something more than you guys having issues with "accuracy," hence us being so over and done with your hypocrisy.
What does this diatribe have to do with this OP, who laid out clear reasons that, in THIS instance, make perfect sense?

Dude, you gotta lighten up. You're letting things get to you way too much.
The Debt
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I would point out that Louis isn't the only character race-swapped. Claudia is also more "creole" than the character of the books.

The point of Claudia is a daughter companion gifted from Lestat to Louis. So naturally a white Louis gets a white Claudia, but if you race swap Louis, Claudia too must be creole.

Part of the story of Louis is being able to blend into high society as he travels. This isn't to say there aren't rich black folk, but if you talking America or Europe, it is unique. It's the same problem as a black Bruce Wayne, how many black billionaires are in Gotham? Either you have to conceal Batmans race or never address it. With Interview, it's a period piece over centuries, you can't minimize realities of the past and expect the story to work as it did in the novel. Or you do the worst thing and use the race of Louis as a lecturing soapbox to make the story about tolerance and modern values rather than tell the story about a vampire struggling with his existence. Louis loves humanity, but if his character is used to conflict with 18th century man, he is resentful of (backward) man rather than cherishing it.
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