Couldn't agree more with that order. First three are all fun, well made movies.

bluefire579 said:

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Didn't Clancy initially have the same kind of conversations with the feds stemming from his early books with stuff he just researched at the library? Feel like I remember reading that somewhere.

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This is how I recall it and I could be wrong but I don't think so. The late 80's was a while ago.

Clancy was very, very, well researched and obviously a big brain, And as his acclaim grew he did get access to more sources that gave him some additional information (not necessarily anything classified just some insights).

The FBI spoke with him on a couple of occasions, not necessarily because they were accusing of him of anything, moreso because the intelligence agencies and DOD were interested in how he was coming to some of the conclusions he was in his storytelling (mainly along the lines of correctly projecting the capabilities of both the US and our adversaries).

Urban Ag said:

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bluefire579 said:

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Didn't Clancy initially have the same kind of conversations with the feds stemming from his early books with stuff he just researched at the library? Feel like I remember reading that somewhere.

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This is how I recall it and I could be wrong but I don't think so. The late 80's was a while ago.

Clancy was very, very, well researched and obviously a big brain, And as his acclaim grew he did get access to more sources that gave him some additional information (not necessarily anything classified just some insights).

The FBI spoke with him on a couple of occasions, not necessarily because they were accusing of him of anything, moreso because the intelligence agencies and DOD were interested in how he was coming to some of the conclusions he was in his storytelling (mainly along the lines of correctly projecting the capabilities of both the US and our adversaries).

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In the epilogue/afterword of The Sum Of All Fears, Clancy mentions that his knowledge of how to build a nuclear bomb shown in the books comes completely from what he learned at the NYPL. Not sure if the FBI questioned him or not, but if you had heard that, I would guess it would either be about that or from how he basically tells you how to build a nuclear sub in THFTRO.

IIRC it was from a Newsweek interview.

Also, apparently Clear and Present Danger was just too close to home in regards to some of our operations in Columbia at the time as well, targeting FARC but concealing that behind the war on the cartels.

Also, the fed agencies have a long history of interviewing writers and film makers who hit on topics of relevance to national security. It's smart policy to pick brains. In the years following the 9/11 attack, the FBI and NSA quietly met with numerous Hollywood writers and authors in regards to fictional ideas they had for terrorist attacks (that would play out in books or film).

Die hard 3 proves you can fall 300 feet onto the deck of a ship without a single injury.

Urban Ag said:

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Also, the fed agencies have a long history of interviewing writers and film makers who hit on topics of relevance to national security. It's smart policy to pick brains. In the years following the 9/11 attack, the FBI and NSA quietly met with numerous Hollywood writers and authors in regards to fictional ideas they had for terrorist attacks (that would play out in books or film).

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Urban Ag said:

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bluefire579 said:

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Didn't Clancy initially have the same kind of conversations with the feds stemming from his early books with stuff he just researched at the library? Feel like I remember reading that somewhere.

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This is how I recall it and I could be wrong but I don't think so. The late 80's was a while ago.

Clancy was very, very, well researched and obviously a big brain, And as his acclaim grew he did get access to more sources that gave him some additional information (not necessarily anything classified just some insights).

The FBI spoke with him on a couple of occasions, not necessarily because they were accusing of him of anything, moreso because the intelligence agencies and DOD were interested in how he was coming to some of the conclusions he was in his storytelling (mainly along the lines of correctly projecting the capabilities of both the US and our adversaries).

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In the epilogue/afterword of The Sum Of All Fears, Clancy mentions that his knowledge of how to build a nuclear bomb shown in the books comes completely from what he learned at the NYPL. Not sure if the FBI questioned him or not, but if you had heard that, I would guess it would either be about that or from how he basically tells you how to build a nuclear sub in THFTRO.

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When i was in school, I got to have dinner with Jim Olson from the Bush School. He was telling lots of crazy stories, and towards the end of the evening, I asked how the CIA felt about Clancy.

He chuckled, looked down, and said "we don't like him very much." He said they had tossed the house several times and always came up empty. Clancy always told them he was just an old insurance man who liked to do research.

Dp

43rd Street Posse said:

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Man you could NOT do this scene today.

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Was surprised they could do that scene in 1995.

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Definitely Not A Cop said:

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Urban Ag said:

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bluefire579 said:

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Didn't Clancy initially have the same kind of conversations with the feds stemming from his early books with stuff he just researched at the library? Feel like I remember reading that somewhere.

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This is how I recall it and I could be wrong but I don't think so. The late 80's was a while ago.

Clancy was very, very, well researched and obviously a big brain, And as his acclaim grew he did get access to more sources that gave him some additional information (not necessarily anything classified just some insights).

The FBI spoke with him on a couple of occasions, not necessarily because they were accusing of him of anything, moreso because the intelligence agencies and DOD were interested in how he was coming to some of the conclusions he was in his storytelling (mainly along the lines of correctly projecting the capabilities of both the US and our adversaries).

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In the epilogue/afterword of The Sum Of All Fears, Clancy mentions that his knowledge of how to build a nuclear bomb shown in the books comes completely from what he learned at the NYPL. Not sure if the FBI questioned him or not, but if you had heard that, I would guess it would either be about that or from how he basically tells you how to build a nuclear sub in THFTRO.

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When i was in school, I got to have dinner with Jim Olson from the Bush School. He was telling lots of crazy stories, and towards the end of the evening, I asked how the CIA felt about Clancy.

He chuckled, looked down, and said "we don't like him very much." He said they had tossed the house several times and always came up empty. Clancy always told them he was just an old insurance man who liked to do research.

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Hah, I had that exact same exchange with him when I took his course my senior year.

toucan82 said:

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great, now I have to think about that water jug problem again

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Lol, I thought the exact thing too!

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toucan82 said:

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great, now I have to think about that water jug problem again

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Lol, I thought the exact thing too!

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Fill the 5 gallon jug with water from the fountain then use it to fill up the 3 gallon jug. The 5 gallon jug now contains 2 gallons and the 3 gallon jug contains 3 gallons.

Dump out the 3 gallon jug and then pour the remaining 2 gallons from the 5 gallon jug into the 3 gallon jug. The 5 gallon jug is now empty and the 3 gallon jug now contains 2 gallons.

Fill the 5 gallon jug with water from the fountain one more time then use it to fill up the 3 gallon jug. Since the 3 gallon jug already contained 2 gallons, you can only pour 1 gallon into it. Leaving the 5 gallon jug with 4 gallons.

toucan82 said:

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great, now I have to think about that water jug problem again

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It shows up almost verbatim in the star wars video game knights of the old republic in 2003.

The Porkchop Express said:

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toucan82 said:

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great, now I have to think about that water jug problem again

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It shows up almost verbatim in the star wars video game knights of the old republic in 2003.

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Just a thought experiment of empty space....

bluefire579 said:

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Didn't Clancy initially have the same kind of conversations with the feds stemming from his early books with stuff he just researched at the library? Feel like I remember reading that somewhere.

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When "The Hunt For Red October" hit it big, book and movie, I recall a rumor that the story was actually true and the US had indeed gotten its hands on a Soviet boomer when the crew defected. The rumor also centered on the CIA and DoD being questioning Clancy to find out where he had gotten the information.