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What is the best John Wayne movie?

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Yep, its Big Jake for me. Him repeating the kidnappers tough guy speech to him while pointing his double barrel at his face is legendary.

Also, for you trivia buffs, its a way to connect Kevin Bacon to John Wayne in just a couple of moves -- Patrick Wayne in Big Jake and Young Guns with Keifer, who was with Bacon in Flatliners.
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Your fault, my fault, nobody's fault....I'm gonna blow your head off.

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The Long Voyage Home may be his best acting.

He was my hero growing up as many have said. For me it's:

Red River
The Searchers
The Quiet Man
The Sons of Katie Elder
Hondo.
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Westerns So many great ones.

The Searchers, Rio Bravo, Big Jake
Cavalry Trilogy, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Red River, Stagecoach


Non Westerns

The Quiet Man, In Harms Way, Blood Alley



As the poster above(no relation), I was raised on John Wayne and Joe Friday.
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Nightlinger was a badass.
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Too many great ones to decide. Some of my favorite childhood memories are watching John Wayne movies with my dad. So many great ones on here.

I love McClintock…. But I like Big Jake. And Sons of Katie Elder. And the Shootist. And the Cowboys. Rio Bravo. El Dorado. True Grit. Chism is one I haven't seen mentioned. It's a good one.

He was the best!

Great thread…..
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Potcake said:

Nightlinger was a badass.
Could this be Night Riders?
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I love "The Horse Soldiers". Just watched that with my son last week.

Grew up with John Wayne films. Old man and my mom loved them. I also like "The Undefeated"
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Mine are The Quiet Man and McClintock.
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Legend of the Lost




The Quiet Man



Hell Fighters



Green Berets



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To each their own but man I thought the Green Berets was terrible.
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Apache said:

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The Searchers is at or near the top of many "Best Western Movies" lists. Guess I'll have to watch it since I've never seen it.

You should definitely watch it. The cinematography is amazing. (Too bad it's supposed to be in Texas & it was filmed in Monument Valley Arizona where the Comanche never lived)
The film to me doesn't rate in the top 10 of any Western list. Bad writing, hokey 50's humor.... didn't do it for me.


Bad writing?

It's considered one of the best movies ever made regardless of genre. John Wayne loved his character in the film so much, he named one of his own sons "Ethan".
The film has so many layers and nuances that it's impossible to appreciate with just one or two viewings. It's utterly brilliant.

And that final shot. Lord have mercy.

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The only John Wayne I ever saw was Green Berets. Guess I need to check out some more.
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Apache said:

John Wayne was the 20th Century version of The Rock.
*Bigger than life persona
*Wildly popular
*In a crap ton of movies
*Is always himself, doesn't matter if he's playing Davy Crockett, Rooster Cogburn or Genghis Khan.

The only JW movies I ever watch when I see them are "The Alamo" and "The Cowboys".
Never mentioned among his best works... but they are my favorites.


That Alamo version is the agreed upon fictionalized story we all grew up with. Now we know something closer to the truth... but that movie is great. Heck of a score as well.

I love the Cowboys for the interaction between the kids, Wayne & Nightlinger. Bruce Dern plays an excellent bad guy... one of the few men to kill Wayne on screen. Wayne's taunting of Dern's character is a favorite of mine:
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I'm 30 years older than you are. I had my back broke once, my hip twice. And on my worst day I could beat the hell outta you.

Nightlinger had a one as well:
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I regret trifling with married women. I'm thoroughly ashamed at cheating at cards. I deplore my occasional departures from the truth. Forgive me for taking your name in vain, my Saturday drunkenness, my Sunday sloth. Above all, forgive me for the men I've killed in anger [eyes shifting to Asa Watts]... and those I am about to.


This is the correct answer to any JW question…
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Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me?
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Bad writing?

It's considered one of the best movies ever made regardless of genre. John Wayne loved his character in the film so much, he named one of his own sons "Ethan".
The film has so many layers and nuances that it's impossible to appreciate with just one or two viewings. It's utterly brilliant.


I suppose maybe not bad writing, but the way it was a product of its time. It's corny in that 1950's way. The goofball with the feather in his hat drives me nuts. The way Wayne just stands straight up in a gunfight while being charged by Comanche when everyone else is behind cover.
The Comanche charging across a 100 yard river into gunfire of men with superior weapons behind cover while most are armed with bows & spears. It defies logic, but that is just part of the era it was shot I suppose.... but it makes me not like it.

Another thing... while I appreciate the idea of Wayne's character being a man who went through the Civil War & being an Indian hater, he just seems like a one dimensional ******* the entire movie until the end.
Contrast that with other harda$$ western characters like Woodrow Call or Josey Wales... there's a lot more depth to them than just talking to everyone like they were idiots like Wayne does as Ethan. Movies really changed in the late 60's/70's for the better & it makes it difficult for me to watch some of the earlier stuff. Not a lot of the old films hold up for me... the acting style & dialogue can be pretty eye-rolling.

The Searchers was groundbreaking according to critics, which is good & I give it credit for that. But there are easily a dozen other Westerns that I would argue are much better, but the Searchers gets ranked better because of 1. Wayne 2. Ford 3. It was "groundbreaking" for its time.

Anyway, just my opinion.
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And that final shot. Lord have mercy.
100% agree. Great camera work all throughout the film.
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McClintock!
Big Jake
The Quiet Man

....and they all have one thing in common!

True Grit
John Ford Trilogy

There are very few I won't watch given the chance, though I am not a huge fan of the WWII movies.
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My dad loved John Wayne, and his favorite JW movie was "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon." He would often quote from the scene where Wayne's character Nathan Brittles meets with the Indian chief Pony-that-Walks.

"Too late, Nathan. Too late."

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TMfrisco said:

McClintock!
Big Jake
The Quiet Man

....and they all have one thing in common!

Maureen O'Hara?

Here's a good clip of Patrick Wayne talking about the relationship between JW and Maureen O'Hara. (Also features Ethan Wayne who played Little Jake in Big Jake.)
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TMfrisco said:

McClintock!
Big Jake
The Quiet Man

....and they all have one thing in common!
No love for Rio Grande? I guess technically it gets a nod as part of the Ford's Cavalry Trilogy.

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There are very few I won't watch given the chance, though I am not a huge fan of the WWII movies.
i agree, the exceptions being They Were Expendable and The Long Voyage Home.
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Remember watching that with my dad when I was a kid. I cried at the end. How could John Wayne die!
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The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
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mslags97 said:

Too many great ones to decide. Some of my favorite childhood memories are watching John Wayne movies with my dad. So many great ones on here.

I love McClintock…. But I like Big Jake. And Sons of Katie Elder. And the Shootist. And the Cowboys. Rio Bravo. El Dorado. True Grit. Chism is one I haven't seen mentioned. It's a good one.

He was the best!

Great thread…..
I like Chisum, but have to forgive the attempt to incorporate a love story into the Lincoln County War. Ben Johnson's Pepper character is one of my all time favorites. Good casting for Billy the Kid and Pat Garrett.

I use a Pat Garrett line from Chisum all the time when my offers to help are not accepted or appreciated:

"Bueno, I'll just enjoy the coffee."
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The Cowboys
McClintock
Big Jake
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Clint Eastwood ranks as far as a Western movie front man goes? Is he the consensus second behind John Wayne?
I like Clint's movies a lot more than Wayne's, but he is probably second.
Jimmy Stewart made a bunch of good ones as well.
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Clint really wanted to work with John Wayne in westerns. Wayne thought Eastwood's characters were too dark.

There's a clear good guy/bad guy in every Wayne western. Eastwood's characters, even the "good guy", is typically not a "good" person.
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Ended up down a YouTube rabbit hole because of this thread yesterday and there's a couple of videos that talk about that. Eastwood had a script he sent to Wayne for them to do together and Wayne hated it. I think Eastwood chalked it up to different generations and that Wayne didn't understand what he was trying to do. Really fascinating.
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IIRC they offered the role of Harry Callahan to John Wayne first. Seems he declined the role for similar reasons to the westerns. Too dark of a character for him. Regretted that decision and then starred in Brannigan which was a not so great knockoff of Dirty Harry.
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aggieactor01 said:

Ended up down a YouTube rabbit hole because of this thread yesterday and there's a couple of videos that talk about that. Eastwood had a script he sent to Wayne for them to do together and Wayne hated it. I think Eastwood chalked it up to different generations and that Wayne didn't understand what he was trying to do. Really fascinating.
Wait, wasnt eastwood on rawhide nearly as early as wayne? Maybe rawhide was 50's. I guess wayne was about 20 years older, looking back.

EDIT - looked it up, Wayne was 23 years older. More of a difference than i thought, and certainly a 'generation'

still, i wouldnt have thought that a kid from 1907 would grow up that differently than one born in 1930, enough to have irreconcilable differences about movie themes.

I personally wanted to be like james freaking bond or han solo as a kid and didnt really like john wayne movies much as a kid. But i did a pretty good bond impersonation (not a spook, but lots of fancy travel and… the ladies…) and now i live on a ranch and relate much better to wayne's westerns than i used to.

I'm going to watch the searchers this weekend, thanks to this thread.
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