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All the President's Men

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From '76 with Redford and Hoffman, as Woodward and Bernstein.

I happened to catch this on TCM yesterday evening unedited and w/no commercials - and forgot how good this flick was. Jason Robards as Washington Post Editor Ben Bradlee, might even out play Redford and Hoffmann.

Obviously a meaty story to make a movie on, but we just don't get this type film anymore.
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Did you watch Spotlight from a few years ago? I felt it captured the same kind of feel, personally
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Before we had kids, my wife and I endeavored to watch a lot of classic movies from before our time. The first two were Casablanca and All the President's Men. What a movie and what a cast for AtPM! Jason Robards has to be one of the most underrated actors of all-time.

A really compelling look at how journalism was before the Internet and when people gave a damn about what they put their name on and how important it was to be right. They don't dumb down one minute of that movie hoping a general audience will get what's going on; they challenge you to understand the vital importance and feel like you're right there with Redford and Hoffman,
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Anyone can be a journalist/reporter today. A handful could be a journalist/reporter back then.
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Great film. Abrupt ending though.
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The Porkchop Express said:

Before we had kids, my wife and I endeavored to watch a lot of classic movies from before our time. The first two were Casablanca and All the President's Men. What a movie and what a cast for AtPM! Jason Robards has to be one of the most underrated actors of all-time.

A really compelling look at how journalism was before the Internet and when people gave a damn about what they put their name on and how important it was to be right. They don't dumb down one minute of that movie hoping a general audience will get what's going on; they challenge you to understand the vital importance and feel like you're right there with Redford and Hoffman,
Another Robards master-class with another all-time cast is Parenthood.

I need to see AtPM again. Been a few decades.
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The investigative work, the sourcing, the verification of the sourcing... all the hurdles reporters had to clear before an editor would allow anything to see print... feels like prehistory these days.

Today it's just "an anonymous source drops this nuclear bomb" which is then tweeted a million times, followed by an edit/correction a couple of days later that shows up in some obscure part of the publication, and we're lucky if the correction gets tweeted at all.

But that makes sense, as there is no journalism anymore. It's all activism for one side or the other. Mostly one. The goal isn't to speak truth to power, to challenge those responsible for policy and hold them accountable, to bring everything into the sunlight. The goal is to ensure the "right" side wins elections and advances their agenda.

I'd have never believed I'd live to see the death of journalism in America.
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JDUB08AG said:

Anyone can be a journalist/reporter today. A handful could be a journalist/reporter back then.
I stopped contributing $$ to A&M when they dropped the Department of Journalism back in 05? 06? And every few years when they call asking me for money, I tell them as soon as they bring it back I'll be happy to start contributing again.
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The Porkchop Express said:

JDUB08AG said:

Anyone can be a journalist/reporter today. A handful could be a journalist/reporter back then.
I stopped contributing $$ to A&M when they dropped the Department of Journalism back in 05? 06? And every few years when they call asking me for money, I tell them as soon as they bring it back I'll be happy to start contributing again.
News flash, it's back.

https://liberalarts.tamu.edu/communication/academics/degrees/journalism/
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Slapping "& Journalism" onto the end of Department of Communications isn't it.
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One of my all-time favorites. Every interview scene is completely engrossing.

I could easily see Bob Rogers on the Post editorial board in that movie.

"Woodstein."
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JDUB08AG said:

Anyone can be a journalist/reporter today. A handful could be a journalist/reporter back then.
I would say anyone can be a reporter today, there aren't a lot of people with journalistic integrity anymore. They do exist, you just have to search for them.
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One of my favorites that this thread has reminded me I should go for a rewatch. It is an engrossing movie from beginning to end with actors who very much make you believe that they are who they are pretending to be.
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There are tons of good journalists still. Go to any of the major papers and thier articles (not op-eds) will be fact checked to the same degree, if not more as they were in the 1970's. The problem these days is more attention is paid to tweets, entertainment news shows, and op-eds.


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JDUB08AG said:

Anyone can be a journalist/reporter today. A handful could be a journalist/reporter back then.


Hardly anybody can be a journalist today. The pay isn't there. Job cuts are everywhere. I moved out of the industry years ago.

There is still great journalism out there, though, from those who hang on. (Maybe they're fossils. Maybe they're young. Maybe their spouse makes bank).

Newspapers and NPR do fantastic work. Skip the tv stations. (Especially the 24/7 ones). They're just entertainment programming and grievance porn. Anything that's constantly telling you what you want to hear probably isn't telling you the truth.
Thanks and gig'em
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Also,

All The President's Men is a fantastic movie
Thanks and gig'em
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Big Cat `93 said:

One of my all-time favorites. Every interview scene is completely engrossing.

I could easily see Bob Rogers on the Post editorial board in that movie.

"Woodstein."
Shout out to Bob Rogers! Who once critiqued my writing as "a deplorable excess of personality".
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NPR used to be good.

They lean way to one side now and don't try to hide it.
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The Porkchop Express said:

Big Cat `93 said:

One of my all-time favorites. Every interview scene is completely engrossing.

I could easily see Bob Rogers on the Post editorial board in that movie.

"Woodstein."
Shout out to Bob Rogers! Who once critiqued my writing as "a deplorable excess of personality".
Bob Rogers used to zing me pretty good from time to time, too. But that made his compliments all the sweeter.
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EclipseAg said:

The Porkchop Express said:

Big Cat `93 said:

One of my all-time favorites. Every interview scene is completely engrossing.

I could easily see Bob Rogers on the Post editorial board in that movie.

"Woodstein."
Shout out to Bob Rogers! Who once critiqued my writing as "a deplorable excess of personality".
Bob Rogers used to zing me pretty good from time to time, too. But that made his compliments all the sweeter.
THe one time I had a really great sports page layout, his question to me was, "Who did this for you?"
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To be fair, it came out only a couple of years after the events and it was the biggest story of the decade to that point probably, so the audience they were making it for was pretty well grounded in what was happening.
But it is definitely a great movie.
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The Porkchop Express said:

EclipseAg said:

The Porkchop Express said:

Big Cat `93 said:

One of my all-time favorites. Every interview scene is completely engrossing.

I could easily see Bob Rogers on the Post editorial board in that movie.

"Woodstein."
Shout out to Bob Rogers! Who once critiqued my writing as "a deplorable excess of personality".
Bob Rogers used to zing me pretty good from time to time, too. But that made his compliments all the sweeter.
THe one time I had a really great sports page layout, his question to me was, "Who did this for you?"
Ha! That's awesome.
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The pacing and suspense is so perfect. One of my favorite movies!
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Interestingly, Nixon and a young aide named Roger Ailes thought they could've gotten away with Watergate and anything patently illegal if theyd had their own TV network: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/richard-nixon-and-roger-ailes-1970s-plan-to-put-the-gop-on-tv/2011/07/01/AG1W7XtH_blog.html
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The Porkchop Express said:

EclipseAg said:

The Porkchop Express said:

Big Cat `93 said:

One of my all-time favorites. Every interview scene is completely engrossing.

I could easily see Bob Rogers on the Post editorial board in that movie.

"Woodstein."
Shout out to Bob Rogers! Who once critiqued my writing as "a deplorable excess of personality".
Bob Rogers used to zing me pretty good from time to time, too. But that made his compliments all the sweeter.
THe one time I had a really great sports page layout, his question to me was, "Who did this for you?"
Ha! After a staff meeting once, he dropped one of my poorer efforts on the desk in front of me and said, "What is this ****?" I learned how to be more creative with my layouts after that.
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All the President's Men is Robert Redford's crowning achievement. He was following the Woodward/Bernstein stories early on, and bought the film rights to their book before they started writing it. This was his movie from start to finish and had perfect screenplay and casting. It's the kind of film that keeps you in suspense even though you know the ending.

One of my all time favorites.
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