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Danny Masterson found guilty of 2 counts of rape.

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https://apnews.com/article/danny-masterson-guilty-verdict-rape-4c60cc1031e917fc52c05238a22cc1ad

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The jury of seven women and five men reached the verdict after deliberating for seven days spread over two weeks. They could not reach a verdict on the third count, that alleged Masterson raped a longtime girlfriend. They had voted 8-4 in favor of conviction.
Masterson was led from the courtroom in handcuffs, and will be held without bail until he is sentenced. No sentencing date has yet been set, but the judge told Masterson and his lawyers to return to court Aug. 4 for a hearing. The 47-year-old actor could face 30 years to life in prison.
His wife, actor and model Bijou Phillips, wept as he was led away. Other family and friends sat stone-faced.
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Huge win. I've been following this one throughout the trial. Most media refused to cover it. Even TMZ. Scientology has been pulling all the strings to keep this one under wraps.

There's been a former Scientologist who's been going to the trial and reporting on the events. Obviously he has a non-neutral perspective of the situation but he offered a lot of great insight into Scientology and why this was all covered up when it happened.

The jury hung in his last trial. One of the big hangups was why the women did not come forward earlier. This time, the prosecutors put on an expert in Scientology who was a former higher-up in the organization. She testified that Scientology had a rule against going to the police and pressing charges against a fellow member of Scientology. They were able to talk about the reports Scientology made about the incidents and put them into evidence. The women gave full accounts to Scientology and were basically threatened with expulsion and excommunication if they went to the police.

In Scientology, if you do anything against the organization you are labeled a "suppressive person" and anyone you associated with in the organization is forbidden to talk to you, including your family. They put huge pressure on people to keep things quiet.

Masterson's attorneys are also facing sanctions after some protected discovery was leaked to Scientology attorneys.

One of the other big legal issues in this trial was the charge itself. California has a law specifically related to drugging rape offenses, but it could not apply here because that statute of limitations is short. He was accused of drugging them and then assaulting them. He was charged under the forcible rape statute instead because he was still within the statute of limitations, but that requires the prosecutors prove certain acts of violence, which is different than the drugging charge.
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Bet he was a super progressive male feminist like almost all male sociopaths in Hollywood.
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Sooo, no That 70's Show reunion in the near future, eh?

Don't drop the soap, guy.
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Hope it holds up on appeal.
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BG Knocc Out said:

Bet he was a super progressive male feminist like almost all male sociopaths in Hollywood.


Far worse than that. He's a yankees fan.
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Edit: Not productive. Glad he's going away.
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To add:

The three counts were for acts against three different women. Another victim came forward but the DA decided they could not prove the forcible nature of the rape (again, statute of limitations had passed for the crime of the drugging-style rape). She did not testify.

However, another woman who was not a member of Scientology and was from Canada and who did not know the other victims, testified that Masterson drugged and raped her.

There was another alleged victim who testified in the last trial but not this one.

Aaron Smith-Levin, a former Scientology Sea Org member who left the religion years ago, thinks there may be eight or more victims. He says there's one still in Scientology whom he knows of and potentially one more.

He also has made strong allegations on his YouTube channel that one of Danny's friends and fellow Scientology member is a known child predator and one of the victims of Danny was also a victim of this guy when she was young. When she got up to testify this guy moved so he could be directly in her line of vision.
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Leah Remini has shown a lot of bravery for publicly attacking Scientology and exposing them

first Harvey Weinstein is brought down, now cracks in Scientology

maybe there will be justice after all
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LMCane said:

Leah Remini has shown a lot of bravery for publicly attacking Scientology and exposing them

first Harvey Weinstein is brought down, now cracks in Scientology

maybe there will be justice after all
Yeah, she's been all over this and very, very vocal in her disgust with both Danny M. and how Scientology has handled it (and Scientology in general).
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BG Knocc Out said:

Bet he was a super progressive male feminist like almost all male sociopaths in Hollywood.
Get some help
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Red was right
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For the life of me, I don't understand how Scientology has the draw it does. Particularly with incredibly successful people. Mind boggling.
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JCA1 said:

For the life of me, I don't understand how Scientology has the draw it does. Particularly with incredibly successful people. Mind boggling.
I will never understand it. The only way it makes sense is if they somehow gather extremely damaging dirt on you and suck you in as an influencer, hanging the skeletons over your head for the rest of your life.

It doesn't make sense to me that some of the smarter and more successful people in Hollywood would go seeking it.
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cajunaggie08 said:

BG Knocc Out said:

Bet he was a super progressive male feminist like almost all male sociopaths in Hollywood.
Get some help
K, will do, thanks
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Recently leaked documents suggest their global membership is only at about 30,000 now. The documentaries and public disclosure of internal information has really hurt their ability to draw in new members.

A lot of the people there can't really leave because they've lived their entire lives in it and have nowhere else to go. Scientology is designed to keep you in by controlling every aspect of your life and all of your relationships. If you leave, you leave with nothing. Most of their full-time workers work for free in exchange for things like food and housing. They will also start their workers off at a young age and many don't even have a high school diploma.
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They keep internal documents on everyone. Part of the process in moving up the chain of Scientology and learning more things about themselves to achieve self-actualization and freedom from Xenu or whatever is to confess their flaws. Everything said in those confession sessions are written down and kept.

If anyone leaves the church they will absolutely use those documents against them and will launch public relations campaigns against those people. The internal way they refer to it is "fair game."
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Not a Bot said:

Recently leaked documents suggest their global membership is only at about 30,000 now. The documentaries and public disclosure of internal information has really hurt their ability to draw in new members.

A lot of the people there can't really leave because they've lived their entire lives in it and have nowhere else to go. Scientology is designed to keep you in by controlling every aspect of your life and all of your relationships. If you leave, you leave with nothing. Most of their full-time workers work for free in exchange for things like food and housing. They will also start their workers off at a young age and many don't even have a high school diploma.
From what I've seen, even most of the "hollywood" types in there all seem to come from parents that joined Scientology so they grew up in it and feel like it helped with their success. Tom Cruise seems like the exception. Even then, he joined because his first wife was a member and her parents joined before she was born.
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Not a Bot said:

If anyone leaves the church they will absolutely use those documents against them and will launch public relations campaigns against those people. The internal way they refer to it is "fair game."


Out of curiosity, are there any known or famous cases of this happening? I don't doubt that it does, but I'm curious if there are noteworthy celebs that had this happen and had their careers derailed.
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I hope he enjoys PMITA prison.
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rhutton125 said:

Not a Bot said:

If anyone leaves the church they will absolutely use those documents against them and will launch public relations campaigns against those people. The internal way they refer to it is "fair game."


Out of curiosity, are there any known or famous cases of this happening? I don't doubt that it does, but I'm curious if there are noteworthy celebs that had this happen and had their careers derailed.
Here's wikipedia's list of former members. Not sure what effect Scientology has had on any of their careers. Only story that stuck out in my mind was the one from Cedric Bixler-Zavala (Mars Volta singer), who claims the church poisoned his dog.
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bluefire579 said:

rhutton125 said:

Not a Bot said:

If anyone leaves the church they will absolutely use those documents against them and will launch public relations campaigns against those people. The internal way they refer to it is "fair game."


Out of curiosity, are there any known or famous cases of this happening? I don't doubt that it does, but I'm curious if there are noteworthy celebs that had this happen and had their careers derailed.
Here's wikipedia's list of former members. Not sure what effect Scientology has had on any of their careers. Only story that stuck out in my mind was the one from Cedric Bixler-Zavala (Mars Volta singer), who claims the church poisoned his dog.
Cool that Beck and Jason Lee aren't scientologists anymore. I've always been entertained by both of them but couldn't respect that they were scientologists.
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rhutton125 said:

Not a Bot said:

If anyone leaves the church they will absolutely use those documents against them and will launch public relations campaigns against those people. The internal way they refer to it is "fair game."


Out of curiosity, are there any known or famous cases of this happening? I don't doubt that it does, but I'm curious if there are noteworthy celebs that had this happen and had their careers derailed.
They do it more to the private citizens who attempt to leave and begin speaking out. These are the people who exist in Scientology outside of the celebrity circle who know the true nature of what happens there. These people don't have a platform or the financial resources to fight back. They get followed and harassed by private investigators and sometimes have lawsuits filed against them. It's one of the reasons the Aftermath Foundation was established.

One of the former Scientologists with a prominent Youtube channel has had private investigators watching his and his kids' movements for an extended period of time. They use a lot of resources to keep people quiet.
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Thanks for the info
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Rex Racer said:

https://apnews.com/article/danny-masterson-guilty-verdict-rape-4c60cc1031e917fc52c05238a22cc1ad

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The jury of seven women and five men reached the verdict after deliberating for seven days spread over two weeks. They could not reach a verdict on the third count, that alleged Masterson raped a longtime girlfriend. They had voted 8-4 in favor of conviction.
Masterson was led from the courtroom in handcuffs, and will be held without bail until he is sentenced. No sentencing date has yet been set, but the judge told Masterson and his lawyers to return to court Aug. 4 for a hearing. The 47-year-old actor could face 30 years to life in prison.
His wife, actor and model Bijou Phillips, wept as he was led away. Other family and friends sat stone-faced.



Huh?
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For a valid verdict in a criminal trial it has to be unanimous
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Scientology put out a statement today blasting the prosecutors and the judge. They are big mad that a former Scientologist was allowed to take the stand to testify about the internal workings of Scientology.

This testimony was excluded in the first trial but one of the points the defense made in that case was questioning why the women didn't come forward any sooner. So they opened the door to all of that coming in.

Just wait until these women move forward with their civil suits against the "church."
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Complete Idiot
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_as_a_business
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8-4 was just one of the counts , the other two were unanimous.
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So he'll be in his 70's when he gets out. There's a joke there somewhere.
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I hate the fact the dude is a scumbag. He was hilarious on The Ranch, but his character dying did lead to goo drama.

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cajunaggie08 said:

BG Knocc Out said:

Bet he was a super progressive male feminist like almost all male sociopaths in Hollywood.
Get some help
Amusingly the F 16 thread on this is taking the opposite (but politically complimentary) approach, and is concerned that Masterson is being convicted on the word of handful of women so long after the fact.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3398150
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