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Communism flourished only because it worked in countries that had corrupt despots in power.

Russia
China
Vietnam
Cuba
to some extent, Korea
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Captain Pablo said:

Infection_Ag11 said:

BoydCrowder13 said:

His thought that it would create a period of unparalleled peace is pretty accurate.

Between the Napoleonic wars, World War I, World War II, and a dozen violent revolutions and civil wars involving the world powers, wars were escalating in terms of deaths, countries involved and weapons used.

Unfortunately, it is much harder to depose of a bad actor than in was 100 years ago. You basically have to accept the Kim Jung Uns and Putins of the world now.
It's always been difficult to depose bad actors with enough power. The Romanov's ruled Russia for over 300 years and were incredibly exploitative, despotic and cruel towards their population for the majority of that time. The last 50 years or so of their reign saw them actively repress industrialization just to preserve power. And with all it wasnt until nearly 2 decades into the 20th century that they were removed from power.

The difference now is there are far fewer despots than there once were, and those that do exist are largely prevented from acting out their worst impulses.


And replaced with something worse


Definitely one of history's biggest "be careful what you wish for" moments.
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malenurse said:

Communism flourished only because it worked in countries that had corrupt despots in power.

Russia
China
Vietnam
Cuba
to some extent, Korea


Communism only "works" if there's a government that can effectively subjugate the populace, because the tenets of Communism go against the very nature of man and achievement.
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BassCowboy33 said:

malenurse said:

Communism flourished only because it worked in countries that had corrupt despots in power.

Russia
China
Vietnam
Cuba
to some extent, Korea


Communism only "works" if there's a government that can effectively subjugate the populace, because the tenets of Communism go against the very nature of man and achievement.


You basically stated the same thing as him. I don't think he was claiming it "works," he was claiming it only rises to power when you have total power in the hands of the incompetent or the intentionally corrupt.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

BassCowboy33 said:

malenurse said:

Communism flourished only because it worked in countries that had corrupt despots in power.

Russia
China
Vietnam
Cuba
to some extent, Korea


Communism only "works" if there's a government that can effectively subjugate the populace, because the tenets of Communism go against the very nature of man and achievement.


You basically stated the same thing as him. I don't think he was claiming it "works," he was claiming it only rises to power when you have total power in the hands of the incompetent or the intentionally corrupt.
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