Langley said:
Sea Speed said:
It was before but if punching a girl on stage isn't punk I don't know what is
When did punk become so safe anyways??
I was at the vice squad show at Fitz back in like 2004 or so one night houston got flooded and we couldn't leave. They left the bar open until like 4 am and no one could leave until the following morning. Not much was safe that day.
I was in to meathead tough guy hardcore and went to so many shows and it was not uncommon for big ole brawls to break out. It always surprised me when real nazis would show up to shows and then decided to self identify by seig heiling around the pit. Seen more than one carted off in the ole amber lamps. Seemed like there was always a beef between hardcore kids/street punks/skinheads/gutter punks/randos etc every show. As my time in the scene wound down I could see the changes happening. Shows were moving to the suburbs and the crowds were skewing younger, bands would stop playing if fights broke out and lecture the crowds and the tough guy sound was starting to fade. Of course there are still remnants of those aspects of the scene but it is completely different today. I know you're probably just quoting nofx, but I think the scene has changed dramatically over the last 20 years.
ETA - Every punk subculture offshoot hates gutter punks. They are the worst.
Thanks to this thread though, my kids got to listen to screeching weasel on the way to school this morning. Ashtray and My Right are 2 of my favorite songs ever.