BCG Disciple said:
It's been over 20 years. Spider-Man and Incredible Hulk would be rebooted four times in that amount of time.
Not bothering with reading because for a lot of people it's not going to matter for 2 big reasons….AtticusMatlock said:
Not sure if many of you read the article.
The reboot script led by Birds of Prey writer and Margot Robbie was dropped.
They are running with a script from one of the lead writers from the first four Pirates movies.
Bruce Almighty said:
I wouldn't mind a female lead, Black Sails showed how to properly create a female badass pirate. If it turned into a Charlize Theron Atomic Blonde type though, I'll quickly check out.
TCTTS said:
"You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese in the Caribbean?"
A Royal Caribbean with cheese.TCTTS said:
"You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese in the Caribbean?"
It was entertaining, but a female John Wick beating the crap out of trained mercenaries double her size was a bit dumb.Dekker_Lentz said:Bruce Almighty said:
I wouldn't mind a female lead, Black Sails showed how to properly create a female badass pirate. If it turned into a Charlize Theron Atomic Blonde type though, I'll quickly check out.
I liked Atomic Blonde. Granted I watched it on an airplane so standards are much lower. I kinda thought it was good standard for "tough action woman" What is the issue? Not trying to argue, just curious.
Bruce Almighty said:A Royal Caribbean with cheese.TCTTS said:
"You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese in the Caribbean?"
AustinAg2K said:
This is definitely a post for the politics board, but it'll be interesting to see what sort of cast they go with for something like this. Bob Iger had made comments recently that imply they are going to step back on DEI. I don't remember the exact quote, but it was something like, "We we've been focused to much of making am impact and not enough on just being entertaining." I don't follow the industry super close, but I don't remember any major announcements at the level of something like Pirates since he came back. Everything coming out now was in production before he took back over. It'll be interesting to see if he really does reduce the amount of DEI.
Regardless, this movie is going to fail unless Johnny is in it. It's going to be very hard to do a Pirates movie without Jack Sparrow, and no one is going to want to try to take that role.
TCTTS said:AustinAg2K said:
This is definitely a post for the politics board, but it'll be interesting to see what sort of cast they go with for something like this. Bob Iger had made comments recently that imply they are going to step back on DEI. I don't remember the exact quote, but it was something like, "We we've been focused to much of making am impact and not enough on just being entertaining." I don't follow the industry super close, but I don't remember any major announcements at the level of something like Pirates since he came back. Everything coming out now was in production before he took back over. It'll be interesting to see if he really does reduce the amount of DEI.
Regardless, this movie is going to fail unless Johnny is in it. It's going to be very hard to do a Pirates movie without Jack Sparrow, and no one is going to want to try to take that role.
Again, I was told they're going with a black female lead, but casting a black female lead doesn't necessarily mean it's automatically part of some "DEI" hire/initiative.
Not only can that be a problematic precedent to set, if we start labeling/assuming every non-white person who is cast as the lead in a major blockbuster franchise is part of some "DEI" agenda, but you also have to look at it in contrast to the first five movies and not necessarily in contrast to what Iger has said. All five Pirates movies have featured white leads and white love interests, save for Penelope Cruz in the fourth movie, so maybe it's simply time to mix it up creatively and focus not on predominantly white British characters yet again, and instead let the main character be someone who's actually native to region, and of the predominant race of the region.
All that said, again, things could have changed between when I was told this info and now. That, and despite the white leads, the Pirates movies - at least the sequels - have already been pretty diverse, so outside of going with a different race for the lead I don't know how much more Disney can potentially force things in that regard.
TCTTS said:AustinAg2K said:
This is definitely a post for the politics board, but it'll be interesting to see what sort of cast they go with for something like this. Bob Iger had made comments recently that imply they are going to step back on DEI. I don't remember the exact quote, but it was something like, "We we've been focused to much of making am impact and not enough on just being entertaining." I don't follow the industry super close, but I don't remember any major announcements at the level of something like Pirates since he came back. Everything coming out now was in production before he took back over. It'll be interesting to see if he really does reduce the amount of DEI.
Regardless, this movie is going to fail unless Johnny is in it. It's going to be very hard to do a Pirates movie without Jack Sparrow, and no one is going to want to try to take that role.
Again, I was told they're going with a black female lead, but casting a black female lead doesn't necessarily mean it's automatically part of some "DEI" hire/initiative.
Not only can that be a problematic precedent to set, if we start labeling/assuming every non-white person who is cast as the lead in a major blockbuster franchise is part of some "DEI" agenda, but you also have to look at it in contrast to the first five movies and not necessarily in contrast to what Iger has said. All five Pirates movies have featured white leads and white love interests, save for Penelope Cruz in the fourth movie, so maybe it's simply time to mix it up creatively and focus not on predominantly white British characters yet again, and instead let the main character be someone who's actually native to region, and of the predominant race of the region.
All that said, again, things could have changed between when I was told this info and now. That, and despite the white leads, the Pirates movies - at least the sequels - have already been pretty diverse, so outside of going with a different race for the lead I don't know how much more Disney can potentially force things in that regard.
Dekker_Lentz said:Bruce Almighty said:
I wouldn't mind a female lead, Black Sails showed how to properly create a female badass pirate. If it turned into a Charlize Theron Atomic Blonde type though, I'll quickly check out.
I liked Atomic Blonde. Granted I watched it on an airplane so standards are much lower. I kinda thought it was good standard for "tough action woman" What is the issue? Not trying to argue, just curious.
